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WEU Now 27 Full member States!?!?!?!?

Postby eschologizer on Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:50 pm

I think I verified this information. It is a change as of October 2009. (See footnote on this link)

http://www.assembly-weu.org/documents/WEU_Members_Oct2009_Bil.pdf?PHPSESSID=9327bf75678b38168c6a12b45696638d

Wikipedia now agrees that the WEU has 27 full members.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_European_Union

This must have changed over night with something to do with Lisbon treaty.

I was recently at the Assembly website and it had 27 delegations with full member status. I wondered why so I went to WEU Assembly website that has this on it:

http://www.assembly-weu.org/en/presentation/composition.php

I realize many disagree with this but this fits my belief (also Herb Peters belief) that Javier Solana has already subdued the 3 kings ((EU3) and has already subdued the entire bloc, supposedly as of VERY recently. (Herb originally proposed the idea that Solana already subdued all 3 in "End Times News Report." I provide an overview of what happened at my website here:

http://sites.google.com/site/warrior144sprophecywatch/the-theory-2/3-kings-subdued

The WEU official website however, still has 10 listed. Maybe they have failed to update that, because the WEU assembly site seems must active.

This is very alarming.

It is either very good for the theory (all the prophecies associated with 10 kings are over and power has been consolidated at a regional level)

Or it is destructive to the theory (the 10 kings are gone).

Or I am misinterpreting all of the political junk.

What are your thoughts on this?
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Re: WEU Now 27 Full member States!?!?!?!?

Postby Adamantine on Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:52 am

If you go to the member states site at the WEU
you still find the 10

http://www.weu.int/


I venture that the those who are in the assembly is still different from the member STATES. The assembly may vote as it desires but the 10 Kings or member states still it appears hold true authority.
The situation is in flux and probably a mess even to the EU.



In addition Wikipedia still states as of November 20,2009 :
Participating states

The Western European Union has 10 member countries, 6 associate member countries, 5 observer countries and 7 associate partner countries. On 14 June 2001, Solana stated that there was no foreseeable reason to change the status of the non member countries in the organisation.
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Re: WEU Now 27 Full member States!?!?!?!?

Postby eschologizer on Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:06 am

I just recently emailed the WEU Assembly on this issue. I have been very happy with them because they responded to my last email rather quickly. info@assembly.weu.int is the address if anyone is interested.

I am particularly interested in their response. If this really did expand to 27, that is very incredible because it would be like NATO doubling in size overnight but no one heard about it. In addition, the ramifications for prophecy would be very intriguing, to say the least (whatever view one takes).

One thing I did notice about the weu.int website is that all of the info seems extremely old. The WEU Today section talks about events in 2001. The most recent date I saw on the website is 2003. I agree, Adamantine, that the EU is very confusing at the moment, probably due to the state of flux it is in. It is for certain that there is quite a bit of conflicting information online about the number of member states. It will be interesting to see what the Archivist has to say about the membership issue.

Here is the main portion of the email I sent:

I have some questions about the current status of the WEU, if you would be so kind.

I noticed that the WEU website here lists that there are 10 states with full member status of the Western European Union military alliance:

http://www.weu.int/

However, I was wondering if the WEU is still 10 member states. On the WEU Assembly website, it lists updated member delegations as of 5 October 2009. This currently lists 27 members of the Western European Union (excluding associates, observers, etc). In addition, Wikipedia.com has also seemed to notice this difference. While about 1 month ago the entry for WEU had 10 full member states. Now, the profile for the WEU lists there to be 27 member states other than observers and associates (the bottom of the page does not reflect this change but still lists 10 full members).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_European_Union

I was wondering if the Western European Union is still a military alliance with only 10 full members with full voting rights, or if this has recently been expanded to 27 members with full voting rights? If the WEU has been expanded, I was also simply curious as to why there was no major news reporting of such a massive increase in membership in a mutual-defense treaty organization (that I am aware of). Is this because the EU is basically now a treaty organization under Lisbon, so a change in WEU status would only simply be administrative?
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Re: WEU Now 27 Full member States!?!?!?!?

Postby keithareilly on Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:13 am

The 10 nations that are listed as full members on WEU.int are those ten nations that have signed the modified Brussels Treaty. It is this treaty that provideds for the military cohesion of the WEU.

There is no indication that the other WEU members have signed the treaty. Thus the 10 still stand as a military unit.

Membership status in the WEU is not what counts. It is the signatories of the treaty that matter.

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Re: WEU Now 27 Full member States!?!?!?!?

Postby eschologizer on Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:35 am

Yeah I see what you mean, keithareilly. That very well may be the case.

Perhaps, as you said, the 10 were the only one's who actually signed the treaty but others were sort of just added.

Nevertheless, I wonder what this means from a prophecy standpoint. The Bible simply talks about a group of 10 kings, (not a group of treaty signatories, just a group of 10 kings). So theoretically, if this group of ten kings were to change size in any fashion that would be of interest from a prophetic standpoint. So I am curious as to how all this relates together.

Regardless, I don't really know. I have been wrong before many times. One thing is for sure: the WEU has successfully confused me. :humm:
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Re: WEU Now 27 Full member States!?!?!?!?

Postby Adamantine on Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:41 pm

eschologizer wrote:Yeah I see what you mean, keithareilly. That very well may be the case.

Perhaps, as you said, the 10 were the only one's who actually signed the treaty but others were sort of just added.

Nevertheless, I wonder what this means from a prophecy standpoint. The Bible simply talks about a group of 10 kings, (not a group of treaty signatories, just a group of 10 kings). So theoretically, if this group of ten kings were to change size in any fashion that would be of interest from a prophetic standpoint. So I am curious as to how all this relates together.

Regardless, I don't really know. I have been wrong before many times. One thing is for sure: the WEU has successfully confused me. :humm:



I agree with you it is confusing. I believe the EU will wake up to realize it has a Byzantine structure. Such a structure is that from which intrigue with cloak and dagger arise. In this case it actually makes our theory more likely. There may well be wiser heads on board when the ten of the WEU look to appoint a leader and see the bimbo babe that looks ready to take over.
Sorry but I simply had to be politically incorrect here because everyone thinks because she is a Lord , a baroness and well spoken she is competent in everything. The military will see her for what she is in terms of military quality, simply a "bimbo". The same thing is happening in the US military and government where gender and race in affirmative action risks overtaking competence as the requisite for advancement. I suggest Obama is the product of affirmative action all the way to the vote to the presidency. He is a bimbo non the less. You can not vote someone into competence as they must earn it.
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Re: WEU Now 27 Full member States!?!?!?!?

Postby Wickus on Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:03 pm

Let me join the confusion. I have also watched the WEU.INT site and everything lined up. The Assembly site is new to me. Something very odd that I've noticed is on this link:

http://www.assembly-weu.org/en/presentation/whoswho.php

It shows the Who is Who. First it shows the president. Then there are 10 vice presidents, one out of each member country, but Spain is missing.

Now look at the secretary general. Colin Cameron of the UK? Were is Solana? :humm: Are we missing something?
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Re: WEU Now 27 Full member States!?!?!?!?

Postby shampoo on Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:33 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_o ... pean_Union

The Assembly of the Western European Union is an assembly for delegations from the national parliaments of the member countries of the Western European Union (WEU), a security and defence organisation.

History and legality

Located in Paris, the Assembly was founded in 1954 when the 1948 Brussels Treaty on European security and defence cooperation was modified to establish the Western European Union. It contains an unconditional mutual defence commitment on the part of member states (Article V). The article stipulates that - “If any of the High Contracting Parties should be the object of an armed attack in Europe, the other High Contracting Parties will, in accordance with the provisions of Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, afford the Party so attacked all the military and other aid and assistance in their power”[1].

The Assembly, whose first session was held on 5 July 1955, scrutinizes the full implementation of the collective defence obligation laid down in Article V of the treaty. Article IX of the modified Brussels Treaty obliges WEU member governments represented in the Council to provide national parliamentarians, who sit in the Assembly, with a written annual report on their security and defence activities. As yet no such obligation exists on the part of the European Council vis-à-vis the European Parliament. Hence, the Assembly is currently acting as an interparliamentary forum for the European Security and Defence Policy (ESDP) on the basis of parliamentary instruments for which the WEU legal framework makes provision. Following the transfer of the WEU’s operational activities to the EU, the Assembly’s interparliamentary scrutiny continues to monitor and support intergovernmental cooperation in the field of security and defence, thereby increasing transparency and democratic accountability. The work of the Assembly and its recommendations, to which governments are bound to reply, ensure that cooperation between governments at the European level is mirrored by cooperation between national parliamentarians meeting at the same level.

Members

39 European countries, including all EU and European NATO member states, have the right to send parliamentary delegations to the Assembly. It currently has nearly 400 members. Many are members of the defence, foreign or European affairs committees in their own parliaments.


Structure

The EU High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy (CFSP), Javier Solana, who is responsible for the ESDP, is at the same time the WEU Secretary-General, thus creating a link between both organisations at the highest executive level. The current Assembly of WEU President is Robert Walter (UK), who took over from Jean-Pierre Masseret(France, Socialist group) in 2008.
The Secretary General / Clerk to the Assembly is Mr Colin Cameron (British).




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WEU

Organisation
The WEU is composed with the Council of the WEU (the Council) and the Assembly of the WEU (the Assembly).

[edit] Council
The WEU is led by a Council of Ministers, assisted by a Permanent Representatives Council on ambassadorial level. Social and cultural aspects of the Brussels Treaty were handed to the Council of Europe to avoid duplication of responsibilities within Europe.[3]

[edit] Assembly
A Parliamentary Assembly (composed of the delegations of the member states to the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe) supervise the work of the Council, but it does not have any obligations on the Council. The Assembly of WEU is a consultative institution.

A summary of some of the moves towards a merger of the WEU into the EU:

On 20 November 1999, Javier Solana, who is the High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy (CFSP) of the EU, was also appointed Secretary-General of the WEU. His being head of both organisations permits him to oversee the ongoing transfer of functions from the WEU to the EU.
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Re: WEU Now 27 Full member States!?!?!?!?

Postby Finaldash on Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:06 am

Wow!! Is somebody out there trying to confuse us?
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Re: WEU Now 27 Full member States!?!?!?!?

Postby eschologizer on Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:23 am

I second that Finaldash. That is a great point. It is completely logical that Satan would try to confuse us.

It reminds me of this verse.

Daniel 7:24-25

"The ten horns are ten kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings. 25 He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws. The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time." (emphasis added))

If it is the case that the WEU has indeed increased to 27 members I find many things most intriguing/shocking.

One thing that is immensely ridiculous is that it has been almost a year and a half since this happened but the WEU.INT website hasn't bothered to change a thing about the number of members.

In addition, this change is comparable to as if NATO doubled in size overnight! I also posed this point to the WEU when I emailed them. Why hasn't any major news network reported this!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

One thing is for sure is that on major issues the people on the discussion boards of Fulfilled prophecy are excellent at finding things at an extremely fast pace. I am impressed because even sometimes before Google News or major news networks cover the story, people on FP discussion board find it first. It is entirely the WEU's problem that we did not know this before. It seems the WEU have provided very inconsistent information.

The fact that the WEU has been so slow that it has taken a year and a half for anything to be updated on their government website is simply ridiculous in my opinion.

See links adamantine provided here proving it has been about a year and a half since the increase:

http://www.fulfilledprophecy.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=52974
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Re: WEU Now 27 Full member States!?!?!?!?

Postby Mr Baldy on Sat Nov 21, 2009 5:04 am

Finaldash wrote:Wow!! Is somebody out there trying to confuse us?


I don't believe that the wikipedia is a reliable source, as anyone can get to any particular source of information and edit it.
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Re: WEU Now 27 Full member States!?!?!?!?

Postby eschologizer on Sat Nov 21, 2009 5:46 am

The topic is also discussed here with additional strong evidence from WEU sources, (just letting you know in case you were unaware).

http://www.fulfilledprophecy.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=52974
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Re: WEU Now 27 Full member States!?!?!?!?

Postby shampoo on Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:39 am

What I was trying to point out in my post is that the WEU and WEU Assembly are separate. Maybe some don't like WiKI, but much of Wiki information came directly from the WEU and WEU Assembly websites but in a condensed version which is why I posted it so people can see the difference between the Assembly of the WEU and their work and the WEU in which Javier is Sec-General. Everything can be researched on the WEU and WEU Assembly websites, themselves.

Javier Solana, as of today anyway, is still the Sec-General of the WEU....with 10 Permanent Members listed.

http://www.weu.int/


Colin Cameron is the Sec-General of the Assembly...for several years it looks like..can't find the exact date he was appointed yet. The Assembly also has a president whose bio. is featured on the site.

http://www.assembly-weu.org/en/presenta ... sition.php

Membership

39 European countries, including all EU and European NATO member states, have the right to send parliamentary delegations to the Assembly. It currently has more than 400 members. Many are members of the defence, foreign or European affairs committees in their own parliaments. The number of delegates depends on the size of the country.

Members of the Assembly comprise parliamentarians of all the EU member states (Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom). All members of the delegations from the 27 member states of the European Union are offered the same rights in the Assembly, in particular the right to speak, vote and propose amendments in plenary sessions and committee meetings.

Associates are European members of NATO who are not members of the EU (Albania, Croatia, Iceland, Norway and Turkey).

Partners include other European countries (in particular Bosnia and Herzegovina, the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Moldova, Montenegro, the Russian Federation, Serbia and Ukraine).

Delegations from other parliaments, the European Parliament or other interparliamentary assemblies may be invited to attend sessions of the Assembly as parliamentary observers.

http://www.assembly-weu.org/en/presenta ... sation.php

http://www.assembly-weu.org/en/presenta ... orique.php

http://www.assembly-weu.org/en/presenta ... sident.php
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Re: WEU Now 27 Full member States!?!?!?!?

Postby shampoo on Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:13 am

The States and Organizations included in the WEU and what is included in the WEU Assembly are not the same as shown below and as Adamantine pointed out the breakdown of categories in the WEU Assembly changed.

The WEU lists 28 Delegations

http://www.weu.int/

List of 28 Delegations

10 Member States *
(modified Brussels Treaty – 1954)
(also members of the EU and NATO)

Belgium Luxembourg
France Netherlands
Germany Portugal (1990)
Greece (1995) Spain (1990)
Italy United Kingdom

6 Associate Members *
(Rome – 1992)
(also members of NATO)

Czech Republic (1999) Norway
Hungary (1999) Poland (1999)
Iceland Turkey

5 Observers *
(Rome – 1992)
(also members of the EU)

Austria (1995) Ireland
Denmark· Sweden (1995)
Finland (1995)

7 Associate Partners *
(Kirchberg – 1994)
(all signatories of a Europe Agreement with the EU)

Bulgaria Romania
Estonia Slovakia
Latvia Slovenia (1996)
Lithuania



The WEU Plenary Assembly lists 39 states as well as other members, as Adamantine posted before, but their breakdown changed (more simplified and not so many categories).

http://www.assembly-weu.org/en/presse/b ... 1-2007.pdf

39 States
10 Full Members :
Belgium, France, Germany,
Greece, Italy, Luxembourg,
Netherlands, Portugal, Spain,
United Kingdom
10 Affiliate Members:
Bulgaria, Czech Republic,
Estonia, Hungary, Latvia,
Lithuania, Poland, Romania,
Slovakia, Slovenia
5 Permanent Observers:
Austria, Denmark, Finland,
Ireland, Sweden
2 Affiliate Permanent Observers:
Cyprus, Malta
3 Associate Members : Iceland,
Norway, Turkey
2 Affiliate Associate Partners :
Croatia, The former Yugoslav
Republic of Macedonia
2 Permanent Guests: Russian
Federation, Ukraine
5 Special Guests:
Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina,
Moldova, Montenegro, Serbia

http://www.assembly-weu.org/en/presse/b ... 08_rev.pdf

39 States
27 Members:
Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Czech
Republic, Cyprus, Denmark,
Estonia, Finland, France,
Germany, Greece, Hungary,
Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania,
Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands,
Poland, Portugal, Romania,
Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain,
Sweden, United Kingdom
3 Associates:
Iceland, Norway, Turkey
9 Partners:
Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina,
Croatia, Moldova, Montenegro,
Russian Federation, Serbia, The
former Yugoslav Republic of
Macedonia, Ukraine
Observers including:
Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia
European Parliament,
NATO Parliamentary Assembly,
OSCE Parliamentary Assembly
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Re: WEU Now 27 Full member States!?!?!?!?

Postby keithareilly on Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:51 am

Look at it this way,

The ten full members of the WEU have a military alliance in the Modified Brussels Treaty.

The rest of the EU nations have NATO and other alliances but are just establishing a European economic alliance, hence all the fuss about the recent ratifications of the EU treaty, an economic treaty, not military.

The Modified Brussels treaty and the ten member nations are being incorporated into the EU as a military pillar to discourage attacks on other EU nations. Yet, no treaty establishes the same military alliance with those other nations. So if an EU nation that is not a full WEU member nation is attacked, the WEU ten nations and the WEU Council are not required by treaty to respond.

The WEU Coucil exists by the text of Modified Brussels treaty, the organization running the ten full-member WEU nations. This is in the text of the Modified Brussels treaty. The 'Assembly' is an organization that helps link the WEU ten nation military alliance with the rest of the EU. If the ten full member nations and Council are the pillar, then the Assemble is the buttress where the pillar meets and supports the EU.

With the WEU Assembly, there exists a forum for discussing what the WEU ten full member nations will do if a non full member EU nation is attacked. The WEU Assembly does not have the authority over the WEU Council of ten but it can request the Council of ten agree to help other EU nations even if those nations are not one of the ten. The Separation of the Council from the Assembly preserves the ability of the Council to say 'No'. On the other hand, if one of the ten is attacked, there exists a military treaty forcing them to war and this would be handled by the Council not the Assembly.

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Re: WEU Now 27 Full member States!?!?!?!?

Postby milo3 on Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:01 am

keithareilly wrote:Look at it this way,

The ten full members of the WEU have a military alliance in the Modified Brussels Treaty.

The rest of the EU nations have NATO and other alliances but are just establishing a European economic alliance, hence all the fuss about the recent ratifications of the EU treaty, an economic treaty, not military.

The Modified Brussels treaty and the ten member nations are being incorporated into the EU as a military pillar to discourage attacks on other EU nations. Yet, no treaty establishes the same military alliance with those other nations. So if an EU nation that is not a full WEU member nation is attacked, the WEU ten nations and the WEU Council are not required by treaty to respond.

The WEU Coucil exists by the text of Modified Brussels treaty, the organization running the ten full-member WEU nations. This is in the text of the Modified Brussels treaty. The 'Assembly' is an organization that helps link the WEU ten nation military alliance with the rest of the EU. If the ten full member nations and Council are the pillar, then the Assemble is the buttress where the pillar meets and supports the EU.

With the WEU Assembly, there exists a forum for discussing what the WEU ten full member nations will do if a non full member EU nation is attacked. The WEU Assembly does not have the authority over the WEU Council of ten but it can request the Council of ten agree to help other EU nations even if those nations are not one of the ten. The Separation of the Council from the Assembly preserves the ability of the Council to say 'No'. On the other hand, if one of the ten is attacked, there exists a military treaty forcing them to war and this would be handled by the Council not the Assembly.

Keith


Good summary Keith, thanks for doing that.

Sounds to me that the 10 members of the WEU put the WEU assembly together to appease the remaining members of the EU rather than give them full membership/benefits that the Modified Brussels Treaty provides. Pretty smooth if you ask me.

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Re: WEU Now 27 Full member States!?!?!?!?

Postby Adamantine on Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:40 am

Yes, I suspect the Brussels Treaty Powers still exists. I do remember however that it initially had a 50 year time frame. Could it have expired? I doubt it. There are things being done and not much talked about that is for sure.
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Re: WEU Now 27 Full member States!?!?!?!?

Postby Finaldash on Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:03 pm

Thanks for laying that out Shampoo.
Escho.... have you gotten any response from your email to them yet?
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Re: WEU Now 27 Full member States!?!?!?!?

Postby keithareilly on Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:07 pm

The WEU actually lends military deterrent support to the EU.

Consider:

One of the EU nations, not of the ten, is attacked.
The EU Assembly (not the Council for the ten) decides that it will send troops.
One member of the Assembly, also of the ten and the Council, decides to send troops.
The original attacking nation now finds itself at war with one of the ten.

Are the other nine of the ten now obligated to go to war? Probably not.
But, suppose that as part of this conflict, the original attacking nation attacks the homeland of the one of ten that sent troupes. Now, by the Modified Brussels Treaty the other nine nations are obligated to enter the conflict.


Consequently,

An aggressor against any EU nation might find itself fighting one of the ten.
The aggressor can not defeat one of the ten without attacking its homeland.
To attack the homeland of one of the ten will activate the Modified Brussels Treaty.
Activating the Modified Brussels Treaty brings the other nine of the ten into the conflict.
An aggressor against any EU nation might find itself at war with the ten of the Modified Brussels Treaty.


The Assembly and Council sets up a situation where waging war with any EU nation may precipitate a Domino Effect bringing the ten nations of the Modified Brussels Treaty against the aggressor.

The separation of the Council and the Assembly sets up checks and balances that both line up the Dominos but also control how and when those Dominos fall. The EU may initially police the region with troops from nations not of the ten to help keep the Domino Effect from getting started. The Domino Effect is a great stick for preventing aggression against the EU, but it also may allow the EU to get away with being more aggressive than it might otherwise. This is the reason why the ten are also in the Assembly not just on the Council. The ten being on the Assembly helps prevent any EU nation from dragging the whole of the EU into war.


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Re: WEU Now 27 Full member States!?!?!?!?

Postby keithareilly on Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:59 pm

Milo3

Remember the EU is incorporating the WEU as one of its pillars to strengthen the EU. It is not the other way around.

If all EU nations were signatories of the Modified Brussels Treaty, then an attack against any one would bring all of Europe into war. Most EU nations don’t want that situation to exist as they don’t want another WWI Domino effect.

Instead they have …
1) The WEU Assembly which represents all EU members and all military might, but, as non treaty bound forces of the EU,
2) Forces from members not of the ten can be deployed by the EU without risking a Domino Effect that brings all of Europe into war,
3) Forces from Members not of the ten that are members of NATO can draw on NATO armaments,
4) The nations of the Ten are all NATO signatories and can draw on NATO armaments supplying the nations not of the ten, without risking the Domino Effect,
5) The nations of the ten can lend their armaments in a conflict, but this elevates the risk of the Domino Effect,
6) The nations of the ten can engage their forces in a conflict but this again elevates the risk of the Domino Effect,
7) The Modified Brussels Treaty and WEU Council, the Ten, is the deterrent of aggression against the EU. They act in Alliance, but, only if one of the Ten is attacked,
8) North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) will draw North American Forces if NATO countries are attacked. Not all EU countries are NATO members. But all of the Ten WEU are NATO members.

The reality is that the EU has a lot of military might but it is likely to be deployed in stages that limit the risk and scope of conflicts.

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