extravagantchristian wrote:https://www.msnbc.com/velshi-ruhle/watch/kushner-says-a-mideast-peace-plan-is-coming-soon-1263508035652
This video is interesting about Jared Kushner. How he has zero experience in politics, he's just a jewish business guy who is now suddenly about to change Israel forever. Also interesting that he grew up with Netanyahu, and even slept in his bed years ago. Isn't that a huge coincidence that now these 2 men are about to make this historic deal. Does anyone else think this is weird?
I could be wrong about this but just speculating about Revelation 13: The first beast comes up out of the sea, meaning overseas. Then there is a second beast who comes up out of the earth. If the viewpoint is Jerusalem, then the first beast could be Kushner and the second beast Netanyahu?
If we put Revelation 13 within its timeline context, then will see that it is a prophecy that is still for a distant future time period.
There is some difficulty shown in the translation of the last verse of Revelation 12 and the first verse or so of Revelation 13.
Some translations suggest that it is Satan standing on the sands of the sea while other translations suggest that it was John who was standing on the sands of the sea(shore). The sands of the sea {shore} can also be considered as a reference back to Genesis where we have this statement by God: -
Genesis 22:15-18: - 15 Then the Angel of the Lord called to Abraham a second time out of heaven, 16 and said: "By Myself I have sworn, says the Lord, because you have done this thing, and have not withheld your son, your only son — 17 blessing I will bless you, and multiplying I will multiply your descendants as the stars of the heaven and as the sand which is on the seashore; and your descendants shall possess the gate of their enemies. 18 In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice."
For Satan to stand on the sea {shore} sand is to stand/oppress the descendants of Abraham, which Revelation 12 tells us will happen after Satan is released from the Bottomless pit.
We should also note that Abraham descendants are described as being as numerous as the stars of the heavens and in Revelation 12, Satan with the sweep of his tail causes a third of this descendants to fall to the earth where he then tramples them. A reference to the great falling away.
But I am digressing from what has been said in the above post.
In Daniel 7 there is a time gap pause in the prophecy concerning the beasts and the Little Horn of exactly 1,000 years as recorded in Rev 20:1-3, 7-10 between verse 18 and 19. Daniel did not record this time gap like he did not record the 2,000 plus time gap in Daniel 2 between the third and the fourth segment of the statue as he was not able to see the time gap from where he was observing, the prophecy of the Statue, from, but this time gap is found hidden by the English translation in Jeremiah 50:39. However, in Isaiah 24:21-22, we are told that the judged heavenly hosts will be imprisoned for many days in a cistern/pit awaiting the time of their punishment.
Now ec in your post you have suggested that the sea in Rev 13 can be considered to have the meaning of "overseas", however, I would suggest that there is another understanding that can be seen in the expression of "out of the seas".
To justify my understanding I have considered the description found in Daniel 7:2-3: -
Daniel 7:2-3: - 2 Daniel said, "I saw in my vision by night, and behold, the four winds of heaven, (i.e. the four beasts who are wicked fallen spiritual, i.e. wind/breath, heavenly hosts,) were stirring up the great sea, (i.e. the people of the earth). 3 And four great beasts, (i.e. the four winds of heaven) came up out of the sea,( i.e. manifested in the people), different from one another.
This is the same launage as found in Revelation 13:
Revelation 13:1: - 13 Then I stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous name.
Now the description of the beast of Revelation 13:1-4 which is similar to the description found in Daniel 7:
Daniel 7:19-22: - 19 "Then I wished to know the truth about the fourth beast, which was different from all the others, exceedingly dreadful, with its teeth of iron and its nails of bronze, which devoured, broke in pieces, and trampled the residue with its feet; 20 and the ten horns that were on its head, and the other horn which came up, before which three fell, namely, that horn which had eyes and a mouth which spoke pompous words, whose appearance was greater than his fellows.
21 "I was watching; and the same horn was making war against the saints, and prevailing against them, 22 until the Ancient of Days came, and a judgment was made in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came for the saints to possess the kingdom.
We are told of their release from the Abyss, which tradition places next to the Euphrates River in Revelation 9:13-15: -
Revelation 9:13-15: - Sixth Trumpet: The Angels from the Euphrates
13 Then the sixth angel sounded: And I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, 14 saying to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, "Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates." 15 So the four angels, who had been prepared for the hour and day and month and year, were released to kill a third of mankind.
We are told of their release in Revelation 13: 1-10
Now concerning the Little horn beast which we see in Revelation 13:11-18, it is the same beast/little horn that is mentioned in Daniel 7:8, 11, 20-21 and 24-25 and he arises up out of the Bottomless pit, i.e. the earth.
Now, a passage that I would consider is describing what is happening at the moment is this: -
Daniel 11:32b-35: - but the people who know their God shall be strong, and carry out great exploits. 33 And those of the people who understand shall instruct many; yet for many days they shall fall by sword and flame, by captivity and plundering. 34 Now when they fall, they shall be aided with a little help; but many shall join with them by intrigue. 35 And some of those of understanding shall fall, to refine them, purify them, and make them white, until the time of the end; because it is still for the appointed time.
What we are seeing at presnet is that many are joining themselves with Israel by intrigue to accomplish what they want to happen and their desires are not necessarily good for Israel or in line with God's plans for Israel.
This it seems, is the desire of many of Trump's advisors, to hasten the end times along.
What you are seeing in this news item is simply just this as Daniel 11:32b-35 is pertinent to our present time as Israel has not yet been purified nor made white for the time of the end during the next age.
I hope that this explanation helps.
Shalom