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Sword of Geddon wrote:And the constitution is anything but a judeo-Christian document. That is a common misconception. There is nothing holy or sacred about our founding documents. They are the law, nothing more.
Exit40 wrote:Sword of Geddon wrote:And the constitution is anything but a judeo-Christian document. That is a common misconception. There is nothing holy or sacred about our founding documents. They are the law, nothing more.
Except for the part where it states all men are equal and our rights and liberties are granted by God, not man, therefore the basis for limited govt powers in mens' lives, the following documents backing up the previous lead in. No easy road for sure, but the experiment with this is far from over.
God Bless You
David
brett wrote: I see Romney as a very hard working and capable man who will support Israel and will help your nation. Personally considering we are in the Last Days I would be thanking God for this amount of blessing at this stage. Romney is far better than Obama, make sure he gets in, please vote for Romney, it will have wide reaching consequences globally.
Abiding in His Word wrote:Well I heard him say that Jesus Christ was his savior in an interview. And the opening prayer this evening was by a member of the Mormon faith and he prayed in the KJ language.
Yeah, but which Jesus Christ? The Jesus that's the spirit brother of Lucifer? The Jesus whose spilt blood isn't COMPLETELY suficient for forgiviness of sins?
Abiding in His Word wrote:And I remember the same fear expressed when John F. Kennedy ran for president. Regardless of how you felt about his term as president, he didn't try to convince us to pray to the "Blessed Mother", to pray for the poor souls in purgatory, or to recognize the Pope as the representative of God on earth.
Abiding in His Word wrote:Yeah, but which Jesus Christ? The Jesus that's the spirit brother of Lucifer? The Jesus whose spilt blood isn't COMPLETELY suficient for forgiviness of sins?
Well, I can't speak for Romney naturally, but you only have to read some discussions on this board to know that not even all Evangelicals believe the same theology. And there are plenty of believers who aren't certain that Jesus blood was sufficient for the forgiveness of sins; they must work out their own salvation and repent a million times for "complete" forgiveness.
Just sayin'....
Abiding in His Word wrote:Let's see what he has to say this evening. And let's focus on the responsibilities of the office, and hope he will fulfill them better than the current president.
Abiding in His Word wrote:And there are plenty of believers who aren't certain that Jesus blood was sufficient for the forgiveness of sins; they must work out their own salvation and repent a million times for "complete" forgiveness.
Abiding in His Word wrote:By the way, Denise, your guy is coming up pretty soon....Clint Eastwood. Hope you're watching!
And what I heard last night convinces me that even though Romney might not have all the doctrines of the Bible correct, at least he got the one James talks about: Pure religion and undefiled before God the Father.
He seems to be truly humble, and to love his fellowman.
Abiding in His Word wrote:And what I heard last night convinces me that even though Romney might not have all the doctrines of the Bible correct, at least he got the one James talks about: Pure religion and undefiled before God the Father.
He seems to be truly humble, and to love his fellowman.
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Indeed that side of him came through loud and clear.
Abiding in His Word wrote:Yeah, but which Jesus Christ? The Jesus that's the spirit brother of Lucifer? The Jesus whose spilt blood isn't COMPLETELY suficient for forgiviness of sins?
Well, I can't speak for Romney naturally, but you only have to read some discussions on this board to know that not even all Evangelicals believe the same theology. And there are plenty of believers who aren't certain that Jesus blood was sufficient for the forgiveness of sins; they must work out their own salvation and repent a million times for "complete" forgiveness.
Just sayin'....
Abiding in His Word wrote:And I remember the same fear expressed when John F. Kennedy ran for president. Regardless of how you felt about his term as president, he didn't try to convince us to pray to the "Blessed Mother", to pray for the poor souls in purgatory, or to recognize the Pope as the representative of God on earth.
daffodyllady wrote:Jesus said that by their fruits we shall know them.
What I heard last night from other people, telling how Mitt Romney impacted their lives, giving his time and gentle care to those who were in need...
I feel I am unqualified to pass negative judgment on this man.
All we can see are actions. Only God can see the heart.
I have heard Evangelicals who claim "nothing but the blood!" turn around and kill their brother with their tongues.
I have been one of the poor in quite a few churches, in days past, hoping for a little help from the churches we attended... but so very few had time or help for poor people. Mostly, as a poor family, we were ignored, except for being encouraged to put more into the offering plate. The message was that if you give, you will receive. They didn't help us, but they sure told us how we weren't giving enough, and that was the root of our financial problems!
I have known many churches. I have known many pastors...
And what I heard last night convinces me that even though Romney might not have all the doctrines of the Bible correct, at least he got the one James talks about: Pure religion and undefiled before God the Father.
He seems to be truly humble, and to love his fellowman.
And that's more than I can say for many Evangelicals who love to debate Bible doctrine.
jgilberAZ wrote:Since when should Christians separate politics and religion? Our faith should be first and foremost in every area of our lives, including who we vote for.
Government is an institution of God.
Romans 13
1 Peter 2
Do you really think it pleases the Lord when you state "I want a heretic to rule over me?"
You have other options.
Exit40 wrote:
Initially I liked Herman Cain, and wanted the bumper sticker that said ' My guy is blacker than your guy ', with the hope of eliminating the race card, as an after fact.
Initially I liked Herman Cain, and wanted the bumper sticker that said ' My guy is blacker than your guy '
Exit40 wrote:One of our rights is not just freedom to worship. It is freedom to worship as we choose, and not be forced to worship in a govt' mandated religion, nor any ideology that forces us to abandon our freedom to choose to worship as we please, or not to worship at all., free from social pressures and persecutions. So, and to repeat Daffy I think you nail it every time you post, from a Christian standpoint we are not looking to place our vote for anyone but Christ firstly, secondly no one is perfect in this regard, no, not one, so what we are talking about here is which candidate's ideology is most likely to be honorable to our God given right to worship as we please as recognized and written in our founding documents. We are not talking theology nor priesthood of the White house here, but political ideologies and who can best represent us as we would like to see our secular govt' run, and who has the best chance to see it through to our way of thinking. The problem isn't and never has been who is the most Christian. It is and always has been how many more people believe in the one ideology over the other. That is our winner and President for the next four years, revolution or impeachment aside. We are a Constitutional Republic, and accordingly a Representative Democracy. You can't expect any good thing to happen if you don't vote for higher principles as good and just peoples, and by doing nothing evil will prevail. Your vote and your voice counts, the Lord knows you heart, so give unto Caesar that which is his, just pick the best Caesar as you are able.
Ease up folks, we should have been working on this a long time ago, meaning the Church, and for over a century, but have allowed the unChurched and apostates to become the majority. I am not so sure about that either, as most want a properly run govt. The entitlements have to be paid for by someone, and we simply can't keep borrowing . Anyone who has kids has begun to see this, some have seen it all along.
Church and State separation means no mandated govt' religion or ideology that forces us away from our freedom to worship as we choose, and that means all of us or it means nothing to any of us.
And Father have Mercy on us, for Thy Namesake alone, for we deserve only what You choose to give us in accordance with Your Will for us at this time. In Christ's Name....
God Bless
David
Initially I liked Herman Cain, and wanted the bumper sticker that said ' My guy is blacker than your guy ', with the hope of eliminating the race card, as an after fact.
Sword of Geddon wrote:Exit40 wrote:One of our rights is not just freedom to worship. It is freedom to worship as we choose, and not be forced to worship in a govt' mandated religion, nor any ideology that forces us to abandon our freedom to choose to worship as we please, or not to worship at all., free from social pressures and persecutions. So, and to repeat Daffy I think you nail it every time you post, from a Christian standpoint we are not looking to place our vote for anyone but Christ firstly, secondly no one is perfect in this regard, no, not one, so what we are talking about here is which candidate's ideology is most likely to be honorable to our God given right to worship as we please as recognized and written in our founding documents. We are not talking theology nor priesthood of the White house here, but political ideologies and who can best represent us as we would like to see our secular govt' run, and who has the best chance to see it through to our way of thinking. The problem isn't and never has been who is the most Christian. It is and always has been how many more people believe in the one ideology over the other. That is our winner and President for the next four years, revolution or impeachment aside. We are a Constitutional Republic, and accordingly a Representative Democracy. You can't expect any good thing to happen if you don't vote for higher principles as good and just peoples, and by doing nothing evil will prevail. Your vote and your voice counts, the Lord knows you heart, so give unto Caesar that which is his, just pick the best Caesar as you are able.
Ease up folks, we should have been working on this a long time ago, meaning the Church, and for over a century, but have allowed the unChurched and apostates to become the majority. I am not so sure about that either, as most want a properly run govt. The entitlements have to be paid for by someone, and we simply can't keep borrowing . Anyone who has kids has begun to see this, some have seen it all along.
Church and State separation means no mandated govt' religion or ideology that forces us away from our freedom to worship as we choose, and that means all of us or it means nothing to any of us.
And Father have Mercy on us, for Thy Namesake alone, for we deserve only what You choose to give us in accordance with Your Will for us at this time. In Christ's Name....
God Bless
David
Initially I liked Herman Cain, and wanted the bumper sticker that said ' My guy is blacker than your guy ', with the hope of eliminating the race card, as an after fact.
Therein lies the spritual adultery of the so called Christian America. On the one hand America claims to be a judeo-Christian country founded on those principles, but on the other America allows false religions, including mormonism, to be practiced.
If America was truly Christian it would not allow anything BUT Christianity to be practiced.
America is indeed one of the most wicked places on Earth, for more reasons than one. I refuse to take part in an evil governmental system. The only form of Government outside his direct rule that is legit is monarchy. If you vote for Romney your endorsing a heretic and a cult, and Obama I should not have to speak of.
Do the right thing..Don't vote.
1Ti 2:1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
1Ti 2:2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
There is nothing godly about the American political system(or any derived from it), far from it, it is by its very nature a deist system and a construct of 18th century freemasonry.
Just as the Bible warns to "Come out of her my people lest you share in her adulteries" regarding Mystery Babylon, I now believe not taking part in the political system of America is the best possible coarse of action.
Instead of voting, read your Bible, spend time with other believers. Praying is what will save this nation...not speeches or majority votes. Do you understand what I'm trying to say?
daffodyllady wrote:Well, as I see it. The Word tells us how to view politicians and government.1Ti 2:1 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
1Ti 2:2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
And to ask for something, but refuse to do what I could to help it to happen, would be like praying "give us this day our daily bread" and then sitting and watching the sky for bread to fall.
Sword of Geddon wrote:I understand what your saying...but think of it this way. God knows all possible outcomes. This election was already decided by him before time even began. Knowing this...why vote?
I've been thinking alot about predestination lately, and its been making me question many of my long-held beliefs. How would one answer this question? Is everything destiny? Or are our decisions our own completely. I believe, and want to believe the later, that God may know all, but is not restricted by his own knowledge of possible futures.
Is Romney ok to vote for? I don't want to unintentionally do something wrong when voting. That is why I've said what I've said...
Sword of Geddon wrote:Thankyou both of you..![]()
Sorry if I've been a pain...I guess I just unload easily online...probably not a good thing.
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