War with Iran

[Jericho]

Israeli agents collaborating with Kurdish operatives destroyed Iran’s nuclear infrastructure last year, according to an unnamed Israeli intelligence source cited in communiques between intelligence analysts uncovered by Wikileaks on Monday.

Does this not seem very unlikely?

[burien1]

Wikileaks: Israel destroyed Iran’s nuclear program last year
Millions of emails by analysts at US intelligence company Stratfor are published, with claims that Israelis and Kurds covertly attacked Iran
By Raphael Ahren February 27, 2012, 11:26 am 15

Israeli agents collaborating with Kurdish operatives destroyed Iran’s nuclear infrastructure last year, according to an unnamed Israeli intelligence source cited in communiques between intelligence analysts uncovered by Wikileaks on Monday.

The leaked emails also contain assessments that Europeans want a military strike against Tehran to divert attention from the euro crisis and that Henry Kissinger believes a panicking Israel will indeed attack the Islamic regime.

Under the headline “The Global Intelligence Files,” the whistleblower website Wikileaks on Monday published more than five million emails by analysts belonging to the Texas-based intelligence company Stratfor between July 2004 and December 2011. Stratfor, which calls itself a “provider of geopolitical analysis,” is believed to provide intelligence to corporations and government agencies, such as the US Department of Homeland Security and the US Defense Intelligence Agency....

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God Bless

David

Wish it was true, but I don't believe it. The analysts themselves didn't believe it, either. I do believe they have done some serious damage, though.

[Exit40]

Stratfor has said they will not respond to queries about thee stolen emails. They say they may have been altered and just plain made up, at this point. So yeah, we should question the complete accuracy of them. Nevertheless, Israel does have ongoing operations ( training Kurds ) in Iraqi Kurdistan so the possibility exists. The overt operations in the ME are a propaganda war through the media, and Israel enhancing relations with all of Turkeys neighbors, as well as others. Covert ops ? I doubt we hear very much about them except for accusations. Dangerous times we live in.

God Bless

David

[Tevye]

Just days before what could be the most consequential meeting of U.S. and Israeli leaders in years,
aides to President Barack Obama and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are scrambling to bridge
stark differences over what Washington fears could be an Israeli attack on Iran's nuclear sites.

With tensions between Israel and Iran running sky high, U.S. officials and military analysts
are growing concerned that Israel will launch a multi-phase air and missile attack
that could trigger waves of retaliatory missile strikes from Tehran.

That could quickly spiral into a regional conflict that would potentially
force the U.S. to intervene to protect its interests.

msnbc worldnewslink
Israeli officials say they fear that time is running out for an effective Israeli attack
as Iran buries its uranium enrichment program deeper underground.

Monday's meeting was supposed to have been a defining moment for the American
and Israeli leaders, a chance to present a united front as international pressure on Iran intensifies.

[OneDay]

Obama makes case against striking Iran now

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20120305/D9TA8BMG0.html
WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama says he doesn't want war but insists he would attack Iran if that was the only option left to stop that nation from getting a nuclear weapon.

"Loose talk of war" only plays into Iran's hands, Obama said Sunday. On Monday, he will try to persuade Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to slow quickening pressure among many in his hawkish government to attack Iran's disputed nuclear development sites. Obama is trying to avert an Israeli strike that could come this spring, and which the United States sees as dangerously premature.

The president is expected to tell Netanyahu in private at the White House that although the U.S. is committed to Israel's security it does not want to be dragged into another war. Obama is unlikely to spell out U.S. "red lines" that would trigger a military response, despite Israeli pressure to do so.
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[OneDay]

IAEA: Iran tripled higher-grade uranium production
http://www.jpost.com/IranianThreat/News ... ?id=260522
Amano voices "serious concern" over Tehran's nuclear program to UN atomic watchdog's 35-nation governing board.
VIENNA - Iran has tripled its monthly production of higher-grade enriched uranium and the UN nuclear watchdog has "serious concerns" about possible military dimensions to Tehran's atomic activities, the agency's chief said on Monday.

Yukiya Amano, director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency, also told the IAEA's 35-nation board of governors about the lack of progress in two rounds of talks between the Vienna-based UN agency and Tehran this year.
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[Exit40]

Last Updated: Wed Mar 07, 2012 16:04 pm (KSA) 13:04 pm (GMT)
Hamas will not come to Iran’s aid in case of a war with Israel: official
By Al Arabiya

Hamas will not get involved in a possible military conflict between Iran and Israel over Tehran’s nuclear program, The Guardian quoted senior members of the Palestinian organization of saying Tuesday. Speaking to the British paper, Salah Bardawil, a member of Hamas’ political leadership in Gaza, said: “If there is a war between the two powers, Hamas will not be part of such a war.”

Bardawil denied that Hamas would launch rockets into the Jewish state at Tehran’s request in response to a potential Israeli strike on Iranian nuclear sites. “Hamas is not part of military alliances in the region … our strategy is to defend our rights.”

According to the Guardian, Bardawil’s comments were echoed by a Hamas leader who wished to remain anonymous. The position highlights Hamas’s rift with its key financial backers, and its realignment with the Muslim Brotherhood and protests movements in the Arab world....

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David

[GodsStudent]

Last Updated: Wed Mar 07, 2012 16:04 pm (KSA) 13:04 pm (GMT)
Hamas will not come to Iran’s aid in case of a war with Israel: official
By Al Arabiya

Hamas will not get involved in a possible military conflict between Iran and Israel over Tehran’s nuclear program, The Guardian quoted senior members of the Palestinian organization of saying Tuesday. Speaking to the British paper, Salah Bardawil, a member of Hamas’ political leadership in Gaza, said: “If there is a war between the two powers, Hamas will not be part of such a war.”

Bardawil denied that Hamas would launch rockets into the Jewish state at Tehran’s request in response to a potential Israeli strike on Iranian nuclear sites. “Hamas is not part of military alliances in the region … our strategy is to defend our rights.”

According to the Guardian, Bardawil’s comments were echoed by a Hamas leader who wished to remain anonymous. The position highlights Hamas’s rift with its key financial backers, and its realignment with the Muslim Brotherhood and protests movements in the Arab world....

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David

...but of course Hamas will have its own reasons for warring against Israelmat any time it see's it to be opportune and possibly beneficial to them in any way.

They are who they are, and they haven't changed their stripes since the last time we heard from them....(or is it spots, leopards don't change their spots)......ok, spots.

[OneDay]

But Mahmoud Zahhar, a senior leader of Hamas in Gaza, denied the group would get involved and told the BBC: "We are not part of any political axis."

"If Israel attacks us we will respond. If they don't, we will not get involved in any other regional conflict," he added.

One word - Taqiyya

[Exit40]

The position highlights Hamas’s rift with its key financial backers, and its realignment with the Muslim Brotherhood and protests movements in the Arab world....

Their charter still states Israel must be wiped off the map. And then of course, the muslim brotherhood is just another moderate political party.

God Bless

David

[xdrifter]

Thanks for unbanning me from the boards. Appreciate it.

Will try to say as little as possible in the future.

[Tevye]

IAEA chief:
Iran not telling us everything
about its nuclear program

Iran is not being completely open about its nuclear program, the head of
the International Atomic Energy Agency told CNN on Wednesday.

"We have the indication or information that Iran has engaged
in activities relevant to the development of nuclear explosive devices,"
haaretz.com/news/middle-east

[GodsStudent]

IAEA chief:
Iran not telling us everything
about its nuclear program

Iran is not being completely open about its nuclear program, the head of
the International Atomic Energy Agency told CNN on Wednesday.

"We have the indication or information that Iran has engaged
in activities relevant to the development of nuclear explosive devices,"
haaretz.com/news/middle-east

again, ...well, duh!

[mrgravyard49]

HOW MANY excuses??? WHEN Will the World See Iran as they are EVIL...

I dont think after this Bibi is going to wait...

[GodsStudent]

I don't think Bibi will wait, either, Mr. gravy. Why should he worry about Obama's reelection? I am sure there are considerations the two spoke about which don't come to mind, such as US assistance and when and under what terms it would available, but if Israel has intelligence that waiting would put them at too much risk, waiting won't be an option.

I have wondered if the whole world would be against her because O has indicated he would not be quick to offer US support. If the timing wasn't in his best interest....

[OneDay]

Israel a 'dead' regime, Iran says
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/201 ... 331560371/
TEHRAN, March 12 (UPI) -- Western supporters of Israel are losing credibility in the eyes of the international community, the Iranian president said.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad described the Israeli government as a "dead" regime. He said Western backers of Israel are losing face in the international community.

"You have made investments and are losing face for the sake of a bunch of criminals and are not aware that the Zionist regime is like a rotten tree that you have invested in, but you will lose face," he was quoted by the semiofficial Mehr News Agency as saying.

Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu told Israeli TV after returning from Washington that "it's not a matter of days or weeks but also not of years" before resorting to military action to counter a perceived nuclear weapons' threat from Iran.

Yes, I think you are right GD. They can't wait, but if things go the way I think they might, Israel may not have time. They may very well be attacked first. But, we know the Lord will protect them...

[OneDay]

There is also this:
'Global March to Jerusalem' Seeks to End "Judaization"
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/153645
Another hyped media opportunity, in the style of the Gaza flotillas and last year's abortive marches on Israel's borders for "Naqba Day", is planned for the end of March.

Mr. Zaher Birawi, Spokesman for the ‘Global March to Jerusalem,’ an initiative that aims at getting over one million Arabs and their supporters to attempt to infiltrate Israel’s borders on March 30th, said that the initiative “demand[s] freedom for Palestine and its capital Jerusalem.”

He claimed that the campaign is “an international coalition of hundreds of organizations,” which plans on amassing organizers from the bordering countries of Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Jordan and also organizing protests in countries worldwide.
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[Tevye]

'US warns Iran: accede or be attacked'

Clinton gives Russian FM a message for Tehran:
P5+1 talks are last chance to avoid military option

The United States asked Russia to send Iran a message that the upcoming round of nuclear talks
is its last chance to avoid a military confrontation this year, Russian newspaper Kommersant
reported Wednesday according to a diplomatic source.

The unusually stark warning by the US was passed on by Secretary of State Hilary Clinton
to her Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov, after the two met in New York on Monday...
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The source said pressure from Jerusalem on Washington was forcing the latter to support
a military option within the year in order to stop Tehran from developing a nuclear bomb.

"The invasion will happen before the year's end," the source told Kommersant. "The Israelis are,
in effect, blackmailing Obama: either he supports the war, or he risks losing the support
[of the Jewish lobby]" ...
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[Exit40]

Iran's Ahmadinejad grilled by lawmakers
From Shirzad Bozorgmehr
updated 11:38 AM EDT, Wed March 14, 2012

Tehran (CNN) -- Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was quizzed by lawmakers Wednesday on domestic and foreign policy issues after being summoned before parliament. It was the first time since the Iranian Revolution in 1979 that the parliament had summoned the country's president to answer questions.

The move came after a power struggle between Ahmadinejad and Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei spilled into public view last year. Many lawmakers have been upset by Ahmadinejad's management of economic policies and key government ministers.

Their representative, Ali Motahari, had 15 minutes to pose a series of questions to the president.
Ahmadinejad then had about an hour to respond, during which he answered most of the points. But critics afterward complained that he had not taken the session seriously....

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David

[OneDay]

Report: U.S. asked Russia to warn Iran of 'last chance' to avoid military strike
Clinton reportedly told her Russian counterpart to rely message to Tehran that it must engage in talks with world powers or face a military strike within months, according to Russian daily Kommersant.
By Haaretz
Read More:
http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east ... e-1.418613

[GodsStudent]

Report: U.S. asked Russia to warn Iran of 'last chance' to avoid military strike
Clinton reportedly told her Russian counterpart to rely message to Tehran that it must engage in talks with world powers or face a military strike within months, according to Russian daily Kommersant.
By Haaretz
Read More:
http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east ... e-1.418613

Looks like our president is facing the facts (finally, )
Since he knows he's not going to be able to avert war in the region, as Israel is going to do what it's got to do, and Im sure Bibi made that relatively clear....the war rhetoric is hitting the presses now. I bet we'll be hearing more and more about it and why it's justified now. He will have to get the country on board with a pro war campaign in the media....people aren't going to be happy about the impact of this war on our economy and gas prices.

[OneDay]

Iran threatens N. Israel with bombardment from Lebanon
http://www.debka.com/article/21825/
Tehran has begun capitalizing on its allies” two perceived victories: Bashar Assad’s success in seizing Idlib from rebel hands and the Palestinian Jihad Islami’s triumphal missile assault from Gaza.

The Iranians are now moving forward with plans to match the Palestinian assault on southern Israeli with an offensive on the north from Lebanon. This is reported by debkafile’s exclusive sources in the wake of a visit paid by high-ranking Iranian and Hizballah officials Wednesday morning, March 14, to the Lebanese-Israeli border region opposite Metulah, Israel’s northernmost town at the tip of the Galilee Panhandle.
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[OneDay]

Netanyahu is preparing Israeli public opinion for a war on Iran
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... n-1.418869
In response to Netanyahu's AIPAC speech, Haaretz's editor-in-chief says that what looks like a preparation for war, acts like a preparation for war, and quacks like a preparation for war, is a preparation for war.
Since his return from Washington, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has mainly been preoccupied with one thing: Preparing public opinion for war against Iran.

Netanyahu is attempting to convince the Israeli public that the Iranian threat is a tangible and existential one, and that there is only one effective way to stop it and prevent a "second Holocaust": An Israeli military attack on Iran's nuclear infrastructure, which is buried deep underground.
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[James1:12]

15.26 Reuters is reporting that the UK expects a formal request shortly from the US to release its emergency oil reserves. Brent has fallen on that news.

15.19 Top economist Nouriel Roubini has revealed his biggest fear for the global economy is oil prices:

The reason is fear. Not only are oil supplies plentiful, but demand in the US and Europe has been lower, owing to decreasing car use in the last few years and weak or negative GDP growth in the US and the eurozone. Simply put, increasing worry about a military conflict between Israel and Iran has created a “fear premium.”

If the drums of war [between Iran and the US-Israel alliance] grow louder this summer, oil prices could rise in a way that will most likely cause a US and global growth slowdown, and even an outright recession if a military conflict erupts and sends oil prices soaring.

Oil is already well above $100/barrel, despite weak economic growth in advanced countries and many emerging markets. The fear premium might push prices significantly higher, even if no military conflict ultimately takes place, and could trigger a global recession if one does.

From the Telegraph

[GodsStudent]

Netanyahu is preparing Israeli public opinion for a war on Iran
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... n-1.418869
In response to Netanyahu's AIPAC speech, Haaretz's editor-in-chief says that what looks like a preparation for war, acts like a preparation for war, and quacks like a preparation for war, is a preparation for war.
Since his return from Washington, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has mainly been preoccupied with one thing: Preparing public opinion for war against Iran.

Netanyahu is attempting to convince the Israeli public that the Iranian threat is a tangible and existential one, and that there is only one effective way to stop it and prevent a "second Holocaust": An Israeli military attack on Iran's nuclear infrastructure, which is buried deep underground.
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This was a really good read. It was like a good movie, one that has you thinking all the way through, and when you leave the theater, you are talking up a storm. At least every paragraph had me wanting to cut, paste and comment back here on FP....there was so much to say.

For this reason, I encourage others to read it. There's a lot to read and if you know the bible, it will be so telling while you read this article and hear, in your head, so many scriptures....very cool.

[T-Minus?]

I saw an article today that the heads of Hezbollah and Hamas got together for a meeting to coordinate their responses to Israel. Looks like Haman (Iran) is getting his ducks in a row also. New moon darkness March 22 (spring solstice). Any thoughts as to potential repercussions here against us residents of the Great Satan ? Maranatha!!

[Reverend R.G. Myers]

Sounds like Iran has begun their pre-emptive strike through their back door allies, Hamas, and Hezbola. The closer Israel gets to striking, the more Iran itself will come forward with their own military. Please continue to pray for our brothers and sisters in Israel, God Bless.

[OneDay]

A VERY GOOD READ FROM PASTOR BRIAN:

There are some important developments in the Middle East. Israeli warships have passed through the Suez Canal the last couple of days, and the Israeli media has been uncharacteristically quiet about it. Rockets are still being sent into southern Israel after a ceasefire orchestrated by Egypt. This shows Egypt is not in control, but Iran. Interestingly, Egypt's parliament declared Israel as their number one enemy the other day. SWIFT Financials is not allowed to operate in Iran, which means the economic crunch is accelerating. Iranian and Israeli officials are continuing their war of words after Iran predicted Hezbollah will be the next ones to send missiles to Israel. Israel is aware of the fact Iran may be preparing for an unprecedented missile barrage on the Israeli state. Haaretz News is reporting below Israel is preparing for war, and at all stages of government there is evidence to back up the assumption.
As Obama and British Prime Minister Cameron discuss the Middle East, these developments may move faster than many of us think. I would call the Obama/Cameron meeting the Chamberlain Meeting, after the British peacenik who appeased Adolph Hitler. Each step since Netanyahu's visit to America shows both Israel and Iran are preparing for conflict. Obama and the Western world are distancing themselves with Israel. Seems the Ezekiel 38/39 War is being prepared before our very eyes. Of course, Isaiah 17 where Damascus is destroyed is becoming more of a possibility every day. If Iran unleashes Hezbollah and their rockets, Israel may very well go after Damascus before Iran. Going after Damascus may be a hook that brings Russia into the war. Also, Israel's large natural gas find in the Mediterranean will be some of the spoils these countries will go after as they try to extinguish the Jews. The Bible states God will provide Israel's protection.
Lastly, the US and UK are releasing emergency oil stocks. US UK Oil Release Link The Enterprise Aircraft Carrier is heading to the Middle East, and will be there in 4-6 days. Enterprise Aircraft Carrier Link Sounds like war preparation to me. Time will tell.
Bro. Brian

http://pastorbrianroberts.com/

[OneDay]

Iran and Syria 'lay ambitious plans for road, rail, air and electricity links'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... links.html
Iran has thrown Syria an economic lifeline by laying ambitious plans for road, rail, air and even electricity links between the two countries, according to official records of high level talks in Damascus.
Two documents purporting to be notes of meetings between President Bashar al-Assad's ministers and their Iranian counterparts have been obtained from the email accounts of Syrian officials and passed to the Daily Telegraph.

They provide further evidence of the immense effort Iran's regime is making to shore up Mr Assad, who serves as Tehran's only reliable ally in the Middle East. All the plans outlined in the documents require the cooperation of Iraq, which would have to allow its territory to be used as a corridor between Syria and Iran.

The documents appear to take Iraqi endorsement for granted, suggesting that Baghdad's government has quietly chosen to join Iran and help Mr Assad.
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[OneDay]

Iran FM: Israeli strike would lead to its demise
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 43,00.html
Salehi tells Danish television 'Israel so small it wouldn't last a week in a real war.' Report: Iran stockpiling food to blunt impact of sanctions
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Cameron: UK would not support Israeli strike on Iran
http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPoliti ... ?id=262125
"I don't think as we stand today military action by Israel would be justified" British PM says in interview with NBC; adds that he understands Israeli sentiment on Iran, and he will not take options off the table.
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IRANIAN COMMANDER SAYS WE MUST DESTROY AMERICA
http://flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com/2 ... sequences/
A senior Iranian commander this week is calling for the destruction not just of Israel but of the United States of America, as well. “As long as America exists, we will not rest,” said Brig. Gen. Mohammad Reza Naqdi, head of the Basij paramilitary force. “In revealing the truth about America and the Zionists, we must raise public hate against the despotic powers and create the environment for the destruction of America.”
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[xdrifter]

It continues to trouble me that this is viewed as an Israeli/Iranian war....

As Israel prepares for the worst, and the average Israeli lives in fear of a looming attack; the average American cares not.... and assumes no trouble will ever come her way.

If there was ever a post I made on this forum that was of the utmost importance for all to patiently ponder it would be this one.


Isaiah 59
verse 7 Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths.

Verse - 18According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence.

19So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.

20And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.

Sound familiar? Is this reference to these "Islands" in the west and their destruction synonymous with the judgements foretold in Johns Revelation, with regrades to End Time Babylon and its destruction?

Who are these people, who is this Nation referred to as the Islands?

Lets look to Isaiah 40 for a better idea

King James Version (KJV)
Isaiah 41

1Keep silence before me, O islands; and let the people renew their strength: let them come near; then let them speak: let us come near together to judgment.

2Who raised up the righteous man from the east, called him to his foot, gave the nations before him, and made him rule over kings? he gave them as the dust to his sword, and as driven stubble to his bow.

3He pursued them, and passed safely; even by the way that he had not gone with his feet.


Please do not miss the deep meaning of these Scriptures. There is a classical History book called, "This Country of ours." and "Our Island Story" both by H. E. Marshall this is classical history literature by old accounts of such from Christopher Columbus right up to Wood Wilson, with everything in between.

For those who do not have time to read these books, here is a small description of what happened. At the time the first colonies were sprouting up in the New World the Spanish had a very powerful Navy. The Pope had ordered (Treaty of Tordesillas) that all new lands discovered would be divided by an imaginary line and the lands to the east would belong to Portugal while the lands to the west would go to Spain. Meanwhile, there was a French colony in newly discovered America which was created by some French Hugenots, who were basically protestants who dared brave the new world because of their deep desire to practice Christianity outside of Catholicism.... I beg you to read about this history, as it is important in understanding Isaiah. You will learn how much suffering the Protestant settlers endured at the hands of the Catholic Spanish, in the name of God... You will also learn how the superior Spanish Armada is defeated against all odds by a massive storm! just before it was set to squash England. The history of our Nation is riddled with the same miracles you read of following David and his mighty men. Gods storm which crushes the Spanish Armada saving England paves the way for the entire protestant movement and what eventually becomes the colony of Virginia. From the onset of these first arrivals, long before the declaration of independence there is a sense of freedom from even the authority of King James himself, as colonies like Virginia founded and outfitted by privately owned companies are allowed to choose their own leaders which up until that time would have been considered blasphemy.

AFTER reading the history of this country from Columbus forward, you will see GODS hand through out it all, you will also understand Isaiah 41, who these Island dwellers are who "pass safely even by a way he had not gone with his feet!", those who were even ``made to rule over kings``


4Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he.

5The isles saw it, and feared; the ends of the earth were afraid, drew near, and came.

6They helped every one his neighbour; and every one said to his brother, Be of good courage.

7So the carpenter encouraged the goldsmith, and he that smootheth with the hammer him that smote the anvil, saying, It is ready for the sodering: and he fastened it with nails, that it should not be moved.

Note that beginning in verse 8, Isaiah is addressing a different entity, Israel.

8But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend.

9Thou whom I have taken from the ends of the earth, and called thee from the chief men thereof, and said unto thee, Thou art my servant; I have chosen thee, and not cast thee away.

10Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.

11Behold, all they that were incensed against thee shall be ashamed and confounded: they shall be as nothing; and they that strive with thee shall perish.

12Thou shalt seek them, and shalt not find them, even them that contended with thee: they that war against thee shall be as nothing, and as a thing of nought.

13For I the LORD thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee.

14Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel; I will help thee, saith the LORD, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel.

15Behold, I will make thee a new sharp threshing instrument having teeth: thou shalt thresh the mountains, and beat them small, and shalt make the hills as chaff.

16Thou shalt fan them, and the wind shall carry them away, and the whirlwind shall scatter them: and thou shalt rejoice in the LORD, and shalt glory in the Holy One of Israel.

17When the poor and needy seek water, and there is none, and their tongue faileth for thirst, I the LORD will hear them, I the God of Israel will not forsake them.

18I will open rivers in high places, and fountains in the midst of the valleys: I will make the wilderness a pool of water, and the dry land springs of water.

19I will plant in the wilderness the cedar, the shittah tree, and the myrtle, and the oil tree; I will set in the desert the fir tree, and the pine, and the box tree together:

20That they may see, and know, and consider, and understand together, that the hand of the LORD hath done this, and the Holy One of Israel hath created it.

21Produce your cause, saith the LORD; bring forth your strong reasons, saith the King of Jacob.

22Let them bring them forth, and shew us what shall happen: let them shew the former things, what they be, that we may consider them, and know the latter end of them; or declare us things for to come.

23Shew the things that are to come hereafter, that we may know that ye are gods: yea, do good, or do evil, that we may be dismayed, and behold it together.

24Behold, ye are of nothing, and your work of nought: an abomination is he that chooseth you.

25I have raised up one from the north, and he shall come: from the rising of the sun shall he call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon morter, and as the potter treadeth clay.

26Who hath declared from the beginning, that we may know? and beforetime, that we may say, He is righteous? yea, there is none that sheweth, yea, there is none that declareth, yea, there is none that heareth your words.

27The first shall say to Zion, Behold, behold them: and I will give to Jerusalem one that bringeth good tidings.

28For I beheld, and there was no man; even among them, and there was no counsellor, that, when I asked of them, could answer a word.

29Behold, they are all vanity; their works are nothing: their molten images are wind and confusion.

Isaiah 42

1Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.

2He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.

3A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.

4He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.

5Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:

6I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

7To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.

8I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

9Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.

10Sing unto the LORD a new song, and his praise from the end of the earth, ye that go down to the sea, and all that is therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof.

11Let the wilderness and the cities thereof lift up their voice, the villages that Kedar doth inhabit: let the inhabitants of the rock sing, let them shout from the top of the mountains.

12Let them give glory unto the LORD, and declare his praise in the islands.

Again, Isaiah refers to these islands who had at one time worshiped Him, but unlike the promises to protect which were just directed to Israel, the context that follows is chilling.

13The LORD shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies.

14I have long time holden my peace; I have been still, and refrained myself: now will I cry like a travailing woman; I will destroy and devour at once.

15I will make waste mountains and hills, and dry up all their herbs; and I will make the rivers islands, and I will dry up the pools.

16And I will bring the blind by a way that they knew not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them.

17They shall be turned back, they shall be greatly ashamed, that trust in graven images, that say to the molten images, Ye are our gods.

18Hear, ye deaf; and look, ye blind, that ye may see.

19Who is blind, but my servant? or deaf, as my messenger that I sent? who is blind as he that is perfect, and blind as the LORD's servant?

20Seeing many things, but thou observest not; opening the ears, but he heareth not.

21The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.

22But this is a people robbed and spoiled; they are all of them snared in holes, and they are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and none delivereth; for a spoil, and none saith, Restore.

23Who among you will give ear to this? who will hearken and hear for the time to come?

24Who gave Jacob for a spoil, and Israel to the robbers? did not the LORD, he against whom we have sinned? for they would not walk in his ways, neither were they obedient unto his law.

25Therefore he hath poured upon him the fury of his anger, and the strength of battle: and it hath set him on fire round about, yet he knew not; and it burned him, yet he laid it not to heart.


If you continue on to Isaiah 43, there is more assurance for Israel...

Who are these Islands, and why does GOD remind them of how He judged Israel by giving them to spoil.... to punish them for turning away from Him.

What other Nation in the history of man-kind could have been so intimate with God, that such a thing could be said of.



Please, please, read This Country of Ours by H.E. Marshall it is written in a way children can understand and it will help you understand who America is in Bible Prophecy.

I fear time is short.

[Sword of Geddon]

Xdrifter I think the kicker is in the recent report that the air force told the iraqi government that "Babylonian airspace belongs to America" in relation to the massive "embassy" which is being constructed in Iraq over the ruins of ancient babylon that is larger than the Vatican.

[xdrifter]

Sword of Geddon

Xdrifter I think the kicker is in the recent report that the air force told the iraqi government that "Babylonian airspace belongs to America" in relation to the massive "embassy" which is being constructed in Iraq over the ruins of ancient babylon that is larger than the Vatican.

Brother, I assure you that once you know the truth you cannot help but witness it all around you.

Did you ever read Plato, and the allegory of the Cave. Please do if you haven`t, as it is a perfect example of why so many Christians will not get it, not matter how convincing the evidence.

The gift of prophecy Paul tells us to pray for above all other gifts because it is evidence to the non-believer. It is unfortunate that many will need to witness the events we are telling them will take place, in order for them to finally believe that these were legitimate warnings. At that time it may be too late for them physically, but perhaps spiritually in that moment they will cry out to God, and He will receive them; that is the power in the Gift of Prophecy. God and the destruction of America will serve a duel (even multiple) purpose just as His judgements towards Israel did in the old testament, one purpose being that His law will be upheld and justice is served, two, He will exercise his mercy towards those who turn back to him following the exercise of that judgement. It is always through Gods justice that He hopes to inspire His people to turn back to Him so that He can be merciful, just as you would discipline your Child not to destroy them in your anger, but to direct them away from it and into a place where you can love them with out it being detrimental to the development of their character.

I stand fast by every single post I have made in this thread, and my hope is that people will take the time to read them, I am wholly convinced that this will be the largest event to have ever happened in America throughout its entire history from beginning to end; an event of biblical proportions.

I base that on an understanding of Gods Word, and History which God was gracious enough to teach a fool who could hardly read.

Have never been more convinced about anything Sir... In so much that I have even restructured mine and my entire families lives, and priorities, in preparation for what I believe will be very rough days ahead.

[xdrifter]

Pardon me... I said I have restructured mine and my families life.... Having re-read the post I must correct myself on that... Through much prayer, and pleading with God, He has caused events in my life, which I understand now to be positioning me exactly where HE wants me to be.

[Sword of Geddon]

One can only try to live a Godly life, and hope to maintain it in both bad and good times.

[mrgravyard49]

XDrifter, I went back and read your post from Isaiah 40 and on.. I believe Your right.. America as we know has turned away from God and Oh boy are we going to get it.. People dont want to listen, like my wife I try to show her what is happening and try to get her to understand what is comming.. But she dont care.. Remember 9/11 and how everyone was saying "Oh God. Why?' They were all shocked, but only for a short time.. Whats to come will Really Shock all.
For me Im ready for things to begin, Sorry But I have had enough andam ready to go home. But then I think oh how bad its going to get for America and the world and think -no Im not ready yet.. But I know its on the way..
Oh America if Only You Really Believed and listened..

'I had to come back and edit. I Pray I am wrong, but our borders have been left open for a reason.. Im thinking when there is a Israel/Iran blowup there will be bombs going off in America all over the place.. We wont know what hit us.
Again I PRAY Im wrong...

[Sword of Geddon]

Well Iran's terrorist proxy groups have been working with the mexican drug cartels, several suicide car bomb attacks have already hit several border states.

Also Obama himself has supplied arms to the cartels, although his goal was to get a backdoor way of repealing the second amendment(search for "fast and the furious" scandal)

The way this country handles the border I would not be surprised if a major terrorist attack orginates from Mexico in the future, and the federal government would have to come to terms with the idea of a possible war in mexico. Obama won't do it, I guarantee even if a city got nuked and they traced it to a group in mexico Obama would do nothing.

[good4u1]

Obama doing nothing or more accurately, doing nothing constructive is how he operates because he wants to remove capitalism from our society and replace it with exactly what? European Socialism...and how's that working out for Europe? $10/gal gas prices in England (our closest ally) and high unemployment and a sluggish economy. Boy, that is change I don't believe in and don't want.

Obama's re-election campaign KNOWS very well this will be an incredibly close general election and they are not as confident as they appear about their re-election odds. Obama is vulnerable and the GOP candidate (whoever THAT is) will need to exploit this vulnerability to the nth degree to have a real chance at winning back the White House. It is winnable for the GOP and they have to believe that too to be credible.

[xdrifter]

Try googling IRAN and Canada's first Nations.


Iran is forming alliances with minority groups in Canada.

[OneDay]

Brother, I assure you that once you know the truth you cannot help but witness it all around you.

Yes, so true...
Yet, so many are in denial. You try to tell people, people at your church, some listen, others get very angry. They want to hear that things are going to get better, that this whole mess will get turned around...
It's like watching a train wreak.
Feeling a little like Jeremiah?
The word which came unto Jeremiah from the LORD, when Nebuchadnez'zar king of Babylon, and all his army, and all the kingdoms of the earth of his dominion, and all the people, fought against Jerusalem, 2 Kgs. 25.1-11 · 2 Chr. 36.17-21 and against all the cities thereof, saying,
2 Thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel; Go and speak to Zedeki'ah king of Judah, and tell him, Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I will give this city into the hand of the king of Babylon, and he shall burn it with fire:
Jeremiah 34

[OneDay]

Oman warns on military confrontation with Iran
MUSCAT (Reuters) - Oman, located strategically on the opposite side of the Strait of Hormuz from Iran, said the risk of military conflict between Tehran and the West was rising but there was still plenty of opportunity to negotiate peace.

Iran has repeatedly denied charges by Western nations it is developing the capability to build nuclear weapons, but the United States and European Union have recently imposed tougher sanctions in an effort to convince Tehran to curb its nuclear program.

"It is in the interest of both sides to come to the middle road," Yousuf bin Alawi bin Abdullah, the sultanate's minister responsible for foreign affairs, told Reuters at the Foreign Ministry in Muscat.

"We can see that the threat of an unfortunate flash of military confrontation is more possible rather than it is remote."
http://news.yahoo.com/oman-warns-milita ... 26280.html

[OneDay]

Israeli official: Iranian military experts operating in Gaza, Sinai
Iranian military experts are active in the Gaza Strip and in Sinai, according to a high-ranking official in Jerusalem. The official said the Iranians entered the areas via Sudan and Egypt, and added that some of the rocket-launching systems in Gaza were manufactured under Iranian supervision.

The senior source also claimed that Islamic Jihad continued to fire rockets at Israel even after the recent cease-fire was announced because the Iranians pressured that organization, and the popular resistance groups, to continue acting against Israel.
continues...
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/ne ... i-1.419428

[notworthcomparing]

http://flashtrafficblog.wordpress.com/

EVIDENCE GROWS THAT ISRAEL IS SET FOR WAR, BUT WHAT IF RUSSIA INTERVENES?

Posted: March 20, 2012 in Uncategorized

>> Israel says Iran’s nuke program soon strike-proof: “Earlier this month, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Israel hasn’t yet decided whether to attack, but senior officials who advocate a pre-emptive strike say Israel, with relatively limited firepower, would have to strike by summer to be effective.”

>> Netanyahu: “None of us can afford to wait much longer.”

I’m heading to southern California today to speak at the upcoming “Israel, The Church and the Middle East Crisis” conference at Biola University and Talbot Seminary.

Last night, I was on an afternoon drive-time radio show in Los Angeles. The host and I spent about an hour discussing the latest tensions in the epicenter and previewing some of the points I’m planning to raise at the conference.

Among them:

Evidence continues to grow that Israel is set for war – Netanyahu and his cabinet are feeling increasingly confident they decisively neutralize the Iranian nuclear threat for years to come.
The Obama administration doesn’t want Israel to hit Iran, at least not before the November elections — That said, the White House doesn’t appear at the moment to be threatening Israel with a cutoff of aid or other support if Israel does feel the need to strike.
There are a number of reasons that could dissuade Netanyahu from ordering a strike soon, but perhaps the most intriguing X Factor at the moment is Vladimir Putin — An intriguing New York Times story over the weekend explained that for the Kremlin to raise enough money for Putin to keep his lavish campaign promises over the next few years, oil prices would need to average $150 a barrel, signficantly higher than the current $120 a barrel. One way to drive up oil prices, of course, would be to encourage or foment more tensions in the Middle East. Putin is already moving Russian forces into Syria. He’s also actively preparing to build a new regional political/military/economic alliance he calls the “Eurasian Union.” What if Russiathen intervenes in the current standoff between Israel and Iran and signs a mutual defense treaty with Iran? What if Putin warns Israel that an attack on Iran would be regarded by the Kremlin as an attack against Russia itself. That alone would throw a monkey wrench into Netanyahu’s plans to neutralize Iran’s nuclear program with a preemptive strike. But what if Putin then went further? He could go to the U.N. in September and call for a nuclear-free zone in the Middle East. He could persuade Iran to give up its nuclear program. Then, in a move similar to what President Bush demanded of Iraq in 2003, Putin could demand that Israel disclose, dismantle and discard its weapons of mass destruction within 60 or 90 days, or face an international coalition willing to force Israel to do so. This scenario — or a variation of it — would not only likely halt Israeli plans for a strike on Iran, but could actually set into motion the fulfillment of the prophecies of Ezekiel 38-39 and the “War of Gog and Magog.”
Now comes a new, must-read column by The Atlantic magazine’s Jeffrey Goldberg — one of the more insightful and connected observers of the Israeli national security scene — suggesting a growing feeling of optimism among top Israeli political leaders and generals that an Israeli strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities is not only doable but could be very successful. “The arguments I’ve outlined here — and those I’ll describe in my next column — all lead to a single conclusion,” reports Goldberg. “The Israeli political leadership increasingly believes that an attack on Iran will not be the disaster many American officials, and some ex-Israeli security officials, fear it will be.”

Here is a summary of Goldberg’s conclusions (hat tip to The American Interest blog)

If it acts soon, Israel has the capacity to set the Iranian nuclear program back by five years.
There is a significant probability that a successful attack on Iran will energize Iran’s internal opposition, leading ultimately to the downfall or at least the crippling of the Iranian government.
President Obama will not retaliate against Israel.
Rather than launch massive retaliation against Israel, Iran will try to downplay the assault (as Syria and Iraq did in the past), perhaps launching only a few token missiles in response.
Fearing massive retaliation, Iran would not attack American ships or targets in response.
Also worth reading, however, is a far gloomier assessment of a recent U.S. national security “war game” (reported last night by the New York Times) that found an Israeli strike on Iran would only set the nuclear program back a year (not five) and would lead to a massive regional war that could leave hundreds of Americans dead. However, the war game also found that if the U.S. were drawn into the conflict and assisted the Israelis, the Iranian nuclear program could be set back an additional two years (for a total of three).

[OneDay]

Barak Warns Iran Nuclear Program Soon to be Strike-Proof
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/ ... 2kQtvWrHQI
Iran's nuclear proram will soon be strike-proof, according to Defense Minister Ehud Barak. Speaking on Monday to the Knesset's Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, Barak said the window of opportunity for a military strike is rapidly closing.

The Islamic Republic, he told the committee, is rushing to move its nuclear development facilities underground, and beyond the reach of any attack.

"The world, including the current U.S. administration, understands and accepts that Israel necessarily views the threat differently than they do,” Barak pointed out. “Ultimately Israel is responsible for taking the decisions related to its future, its security and its destiny.”
continues...
U.S. war game predicts Israeli strike on Iran will result in regional war, hundreds of Americans dead
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... d-1.419674
New York Times report says war simulation has raised fears among top American officials that it may be impossible to prevent American involvement in any escalating confrontation with Iran.
continues...

[Tevye]

U.S. war game predicts Israeli strike on Iran will result in regional war

I would say this is an ultimate fulfillment of...

As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately.
“Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming
and of the end of the age?”

“You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but
see to it that you are not alarmed.

Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation,
and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.
All these are the beginning of birth pains.” - Yeshua - Matthew chapter 24

[OneDay]

Report: Iran planned to bomb Israeli ship in Suez Canal
Egyptian paper Al-Ahram reports that two Egyptian citizens received instructions from Iranian agents to attack an Israeli ship, and offered a third man 50 million Egyptian pounds to carry out the act.
continues...
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... l-1.420463

Congressional report: Iran has expanded its terror network inside the U.S.
WASHINGTON — Iran has established a network that could stage major
attacks in the United States, a congressional report said.

The House Homeland Security Committee has asserted that Iran built a
network throughout the United States. In a report, the committee said the
Iranian-sponsored Hizbullah is believed to have been directing hundreds of
agents for a range of operations.
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http://www.worldnewstribune.com/2012/03 ... nside-u-s/

[OneDay]

Obama’s back-channel to Tehran bypasses allies Erdogan and Netanyahu
DEBKAfile Exclusive Analysis March 24, 2012, 10:46 PM (GMT+02:00)

US President Barack Obama sits down with Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan in Seoul, South Korea Sunday, March 25. Earlier, Obama gave the Turkish leader - and Israel’s Binyamin Netanyahu too - a lesson in political expediency: March 20, Washington awarded 11 nations exemptions from new US financial sanctions against Iran. The downscaling of sanctions caught Israel by surprise and angered Turkey, most of all as the outcome of unknown secret US-Iranian talks.

Read more
http://www.debka.com/#

[OneDay]

Ahmadinejad: US can not dictate world policy
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Monday the United States could no longer dictate policy to the rest of the world and that relations between NATO and Pakistan would become more unstable.

"NATO and the United States should change their policy because the time when they dictate their conditions to the world has passed," Ahmadinejad said in a speech during a conference on Afghanistan's economy in the capital of neighboring Tajikistan.
more: http://www.jpost.com/IranianThreat/News ... ?id=263423


Next attack will be much more devastating than terror attacks in India and Bangkok, Iran warns

Any future Iranian attacks in response to threats by Israel or the West will be much more complex and devastating than the recent terror attacks in India and Bangkok, the Islamic regime warned Saturday.

At the same time, Iran, fearing American firepower, is trying to drive a wedge between the United States and Israel by suggesting that, if Israel attacks Iran’s nuclear facilities and the U.S. stays out of it, Washington need not fear Iranian retaliation

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/24/next- ... z1qEVm9AbJ

[GodsStudent]

At the same time, Iran, fearing American firepower, is trying to drive a wedge between the United States and Israel by suggesting that, if Israel attacks Iran’s nuclear facilities and the U.S. stays out of it, Washington need not fear Iranian retaliation

That's a lie from the pits of hell. He double speaks if any man ever has. Those of us in "the great satan" country who are well versed in what's been said in the most recent years knows that he is on a religious venture aimed at causing the chaos needed in the world to bring about the coming of their great Mahdi (known as Satan by followers of the One True God). This world will not know great calamity until the US and other large nations are all embroiled in it, and a regional conflict between the middle eastern nations and Israel is not the scope anticipated to bring about this smooth talking snake. So, sooner or later, the US will see conflict, be if Iranian "retaliation" or opportunistic ventures by others.

Ye, I say, the US can and should dictate policy which impacts it's interests. Now is not the time to shrink like a violet into the background of the sunset. When things do get bad, the US will defend her right to exist, Iran and the rest of the free world should count on that. May her citizenry remember the Lord and love one another in the midst of great despair.

[OneDay]

Yes GS you are right. They lie like a cheap Toupee...
but all that said, we know what they are after, world control.