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I firmly believe that Turkey will be a main player as a part of Gog/Magog pretrib war. But Turkey is not the origin of the Antichrist. Nor is there going to be a muslim Antichrist. Could you please in your post regarding Turkey make some tie of the new clippings with bible prophecy. I am trying to figure out what is going on in your mind, because I just don't get it.
Exit40 wrote:Hi Doug.I firmly believe that Turkey will be a main player as a part of Gog/Magog pretrib war. But Turkey is not the origin of the Antichrist. Nor is there going to be a muslim Antichrist. Could you please in your post regarding Turkey make some tie of the new clippings with bible prophecy. I am trying to figure out what is going on in your mind, because I just don't get it.
Not trying to be short here, but if you believe that you will miss the point of the news articles, which I believe most contain bits and pieces of the ever emerging Turkey rising in power and influence in the ME, and internationally also. We have had many discussions of Scripture regarding Turkey and it's possibilities, most of which you disagree with, including a Turkic central caliphate, extending his power to the East, and the South, and towards the pleasant land as Turkey is doing now, and on and on. Regarding Turkey and the EU, candidacy is more possible now than it ever was.
The Question for Turkey is, will the risk of going down with that ship outweigh their presumed ability to straighten them out, Turkish islamic style. And considering Turkey's NATO partnership and their actions within, can you see the beginnings of a beast empire under the auspice of R2P sponsored by the UN ? Example: Libya. Turkey, with the help of GCC nations, especially Qatar and Saudi Arabia, is being asked by the West to try manage the ME for them, eventually including Israel, but for now it is Syria and Iran and proxies. Now, by means of Turkish involvement, the toothless Arab League is joining the fray, hoping to use someone else's muscle. What a story this is turning out to be.
Like I have said, I can go on and on, about what current events seem to be pointing to regarding Prophecy and an islamic paradigm turning into a world beast empire. You may have noticed I do not hold to the standard paradigm. I don't believe we can figure it all out on a precise timeline, step by step, until it has happened or is happening. I will try post Scripture that appears to be relevant to our current situation, but I am afraid we are ahead of the curve, as is every paradigm, so relevancy could be interpreted as just opinion. As for figuring out what is in my mind, good luck there. I am still working on that myself, but 'me' gets in the way of my understanding. The hardest thing for me to do is let go of something I have believed and accept what appears to be something else happening that also appears Prophetic. I don't have all the answers, just trying to be a good watcher on the Eastern wall. If you would like to have a few discussions about the relevancy of Turkey I will be happy to join in.
What makes you say that Turkey becoming part of the EU is more possible now than it ever was? Why would the Europeans want more muslim takeover of their own countries? The desire is to keep Turkey out, not let Turkey in. Over at Islamicity, the Muslims complain about the anti-muslim sentiment in Europe.
I watch the business channels, Bloomberg TV, and CNBC, 2 to 8 hrs a day... and Turkey is not part of any of the conversation. It is all EU and their debt crisis and contagin. Even the muslims are talking about the EU and their debt crisis. An article linked at Islamicity site...http://www.islamicity.com/m/news_frame. ... ceID=61575
Do you ever go to Islamicity site, btw?
No, I cannot see the beginnings of a 10 nation caliphate beast empire. I don't recall Turkey being a major player in the air support to dethrone Kadafi. I ahven't heard Obama talking about Turkey in any of his speeches. It was the Europeans that enabled the overthrow of Kadafi.
As far as a military force, if Turkey and ten middle east Arab states came up against Europe, they would be smashed. How many nuclear subs and aircraft carriers does the caliphate have?
What I see developing is the Psalms 83 nations undergoing major change... more so than Turkey. The Psalms 83 nations are the muslims nations that have a common border with Israel. Bill Salus is a author on the topic. Out of that war, will come the peace in Israel that is necessary for the Gog/Magog invasion, of which Turkey and Libya will be a part of Gog/Magog. And it is the 7 years following that is the 7 years of the Antichrist. Turkey's armies will be destroyed before the Antichrist confirms the covenant.
The Gog/Magog countries makeup the muslim countries that don't have a common border with Israel.
David, if I did that, I would have everyone in this thread upset. And I don't wish to ruin someone's else's enjoyment of this site. So I will just start another thread. The irritant to me is that I see a pinned dedicated thread - that is news clippings in the prophecy debate forum - based on a forgone conclusion that the Antichrist will come out of Turkey and that his ten nation alliance will be a renewed Caliphate. That the pinned Turkey news thread(s) are in this forum is not your fault. To me this thread should be moved to... the Prophecy Watch Zone... to a dedicated Turkey forum there, and then post away. What you and the other Turkey news post regulars in this thread are doing is Prophecy Watch. Do you agree or disagree with that?
mrgravyard49 wrote:Im I wrong in thinking that God will takeout Turkey as well as the other invading nations with a WORLDWIDE Earthquake at the end of EzK: 38?
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