Herman Cain

[Abiding in His Word]

I thought it was waaay inappropriate for him to call Nancy Pelosi "princess Nancy" and Michelle Bachman "tutti frutti." Criticize their policies, but name-calling is less than dignified for a presidential candidate. I was disappointed when I heard this.

[water]

I thought it was waaay inappropriate for him to call Nancy Pelosi "princess Nancy" and Michelle Bachman "tutti frutti." Criticize their policies, but name-calling is less than dignified for a presidential candidate. I was disappointed when I heard this.

Wow, have not heard this. Not good at all!

[GodsStudent]

Good grief, drdos. Honestly, I can believe it. That subject/issue is a whole different can of worms....where is the professionalism, if not decency and decorum? Only one thing to do! Tell em' to pipe down, or avoid em' like the plague......

[Sword of Geddon]

Honestly I like hearing this sort of thing. I especially hope someone makes fun of OBama during the election, because he deserves being taken down afew notches with his ego and all.

I think people need to lighten up, so many take everything so seriously, such as the pope joke I made afew weeks ago. Its like what the Joker says in The Dark Knight: "Why so Serious?".

[Abiding in His Word]

Sword, believers should not "lighten up" by using coarse/crude jesting aimed at personally ridiculing others. Scripture advises us to keep our conversation sensible and sincere and brings edification to those who hear. We are accountable for idle, careless words.

[Sword of Geddon]

But people should lighten up and stop taking everything so seriously. If someone intends something as a joke, and someone else is somehow offended, who is the responsible person? It would be the person offended. People are responsible with how they perceive something, and if they perceive something incorrectly, that is their choice.

We live in a political correct world where half of what you might say might "offend" someone. I refuse to abid by the rules of political correctness. Any political candidate who represents this I believe to be the best person for the office.

[Abiding in His Word]

I refuse to abid by the rules of political correctness.

Then, how about abiding by scriptural admonition about coarse jesting, careless words and our accountability for them?

[Sword of Geddon]

That was never in question.

[water]

I have not yet read about Cain's comments, but if true, he should know better for many reasons, not just the Biblical ones. The highest office of this nation commands more respect. I still believe he will win...and I know stepping into this race from outside of politics must be 10 times more brutal than for someone who is an "insider."

We really need a serious, hard hitting review and response to these allegations. We need to know now whether they are true or false. I assume, since he hired a libel attorney, that is what he is attempting to do. It seems like the allegations and press of such have faded since he did that, but that is not going to be good enough. I have noticed the press is much less interested in pointing out the backgrounds of the accusers (which are pretty revealing) than they are in perpetuating the accusations, so something has to be done to get that information out.

Time will tell. The Lord is in control. Cain or not, we know what history has in store for us and that it will be here soon.

[daffyladysson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DrSEyjBj1w

Imagine if there were no pizza - Herman Cain, a funny song

http://commentarama.blogspot.com/2011/1 ... ating.html

Libya Gaffe: This Was No Boating Accident!

[burien1]

On the latest accusation, a statement from his lawyer;

"Mr. Cain has been informed today that your television station plans to broadcast a story this evening in which a female will make an accusation that she engaged in a 13-year long physical relationship with Mr. Cain. This is not an accusation of harassment in the workplace – this is not an accusation of an assault - which are subject matters of legitimate inquiry to a political candidate.

Rather, this appears to be an accusation of private, alleged consensual conduct between adults - a subject matter which is not a proper subject of inquiry by the media or the public. No individual, whether a private citizen, a candidate for public office or a public official, should be questioned about his or her private sexual life. The public's right to know and the media's right to report has boundaries and most certainly those boundaries end outside of one's bedroom door.

Mr. Cain has alerted his wife to this new accusation and discussed it with her. He has no obligation to discuss these types of accusations publicly with the media and he will not do so even if his principled position is viewed unfavorably by members of the media."

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/ginger-white-claims-affair-herman-cain-20111127-es

[GodsStudent]

She says during the next 13 years, he would fly her to cities where he was speaking and he lavished her with gifts. She says they often stayed at the Ritz Carlton in Buckhead and dined at The Four Seasons restaurant. She says he never harassed her, never treated her poorly, and was the same man you see on the campaign trail.

“Very much the same, very much confident, very much sure of himself,” White said, describing Cain. “Very arrogant in a playful sometimes way. Very, ah -- Herman Cain loves Herman Cain.”

She showed us some of her cell phone bills that included 61 phone calls or text messages to or from a number starting with 678. She says it is Herman Cain's private cell phone. The calls were made during four different months-- calls or texts made as early as 4:26 in the early morning, and as late as 7:52 at night. The latest were in September of this year.

“We've never worked together,” said White. “And I can't imagine someone phoning or texting me for the last two and a half years, just because.”

We texted the number and Herman Cain called us back. He told us he "knew Ginger White" but said these are "more false allegations." He said she had his number because he was "trying to help her financially.”

[daffodyllady]

If you want to destroy someone, make sexual allegations. Such allegations are thrown around like hand grenades by the media, who are not out for the truth, but are instead looking for the biggest audience.

Is it true? Who knows, other than God and Herman himself?

I am finished with politics. It is impossible to get a good man into office anymore.

[jgilberAZ]

http://constitutionparty.org/party_plat ... p#Preamble

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This great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been and are afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.

The goal of the Constitution Party is to restore American jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations and to limit the federal government to its Constitutional boundaries.

[Sword of Geddon]

If you want to destroy someone, make sexual allegations. Such allegations are thrown around like hand grenades by the media, who are not out for the truth, but are instead looking for the biggest audience.

Is it true? Who knows, other than God and Herman himself?

I am finished with politics. It is impossible to get a good man into office anymore.

Nothing is impossible for those in Christ Jesus. Things may seem really dark, but it is said it is always darkest before the dawn.

The media has no shame. I hope they can sleep at night knowing how much pain they are causing a man innocent of their vile allegations.

[Abiding in His Word]

Sword, it's women who are making the allegations; the media is simply reporting it. I'm seeing a lot of anger directed toward the media and I'm wondering if it isn't misdirected. Whether we like it or not, their job is reporting news. Shouldn't the anger be directed toward a) the women making the accusations (false or not) or b) Cain himself for lying (if he is). But the media? Isn't that like being angry at websites that expose false teachers/teachings?

I think 6 accusations that include one of a 13 yr. relationship is a bit difficult to ignore. And his attorney didn't deny the affair but as much as said a consensual affair is none of the public's business.

[mrgravyard49]

We need to Look at WHO is behind these issues... OBAMA! WHY??? Because,,, Cain would divide the Black vote..
No one else can do this... Cain is the ONLY one who can beat Obama..
So we should just realize Obama gets his 2ed term...

[daffodyllady]

you're right, mr gravy... every one of those 6 women has ties to Axelrod. 'Nuff said.

[Sword of Geddon]

Sword, it's women who are making the allegations; the media is simply reporting it. I'm seeing a lot of anger directed toward the media and I'm wondering if it isn't misdirected. Whether we like it or not, their job is reporting news. Shouldn't the anger be directed toward a) the women making the accusations (false or not) or b) Cain himself for lying (if he is). But the media? Isn't that like being angry at websites that expose false teachers/teachings?

I think 6 accusations that include one of a 13 yr. relationship is a bit difficult to ignore. And his attorney didn't deny the affair but as much as said a consensual affair is none of the public's business.

This day and age the media is bias and untrustworthy, they have an agenda and their reporting is borderline propaganda. That is why more and more people are going to alternative sources for their news.

Close to four years ago now the media endorsed and promoted John Mccain. As soon as the primary was over and it was time for the general election the media turned on Mccain and had that love affair with Obama.

[Abiding in His Word]

This day and age the media is bias and untrustworthy, they have an agenda and their reporting is borderline propaganda. That is why more and more people are going to alternative sources for their news.

Everyone has an agenda, Sword, ...everyone. Believers have an agenda; the media has an agenda; sports figures have an agenda; politicians have an agenda. The media will report information that may or may not be true. If it's found to be untrue, that will be reported as well. Again, it's their job; reporting information is what they do. We don't have to like what they report, but we shouldn't negate the necessity for media reporting.

Are there other/alternative news sources besides the media; i.e. TV, internet, newspapers, radio, etc.?

[Tevye]

"Herman Cain considers dropping his presidential bid." - (((newslink)))

"Now with this latest one we have to do an assessment as to whether or not
this is going to create too much of a cloud in some peoples' minds
as to whether or not they should support us going forward,..."

[drdos]

"Herman Cain considers dropping his presidential bid." - (((newslink)))

"Now with this latest one we have to do an assessment as to whether or not
this is going to create too much of a cloud in some peoples' minds
as to whether or not they should support us going forward,..."

He needs to. I do believe this man has been wronged and slandered to a point but it does seem from this latest accusation that he does seem to have a problem with self control. The problem is so did Bill Clinton before his presidential run, after he was elected and currently. This current administration wants to hold on at all costs so they will stop at nothing to harass, slander, and ultimately rune peoples lives. What I hate is that no one in the Media cept a few are talking about Obama's issues.

[mrgravyard49]

Yep its over, So Now Obama wins...

[Jericho]

Yep its over, So Now Obama wins...

It's not over yet...

[good4u1]

No, it is NOT over...but since Cain is re-assessing his Campaign...this is not a good sign. Let's put it this way, if he truly was innocent of these accusations, wouldn't it be important to defend your precious reputation before the public and file suit against them? I would do it in a heartbeat, if for no other reason than my good name even if it is hard to win in Court. If he does stay in till the IA primary and he doesn't place in the top three, I will conclude he has no chance for the General and more than likely he will drop out.

I do hope Michelle Bachmann will pick up his supporters. She still gets my vote if she stays in for my State's primary.

[drdos]

:disappointed: Good grief, drdos. Honestly, I can believe it. That subject/issue is a whole different can of worms....where is the professionalism, if not decency and decorum? Only one thing to do! Tell em' to pipe down, or avoid em' like the plague......

Yeppers

[drdos]

No, it is NOT over...but since Cain is re-assessing his Campaign...this is not a good sign. Let's put it this way, if he truly was innocent of these accusations, wouldn't it be important to defend your precious reputation before the public and file suit against them? I would do it in a heartbeat, if for no other reason than my good name even if it is hard to win in Court. If he does stay in till the IA primary and he doesn't place in the top three, I will conclude he has no chance for the General and more than likely he will drop out.

I do hope Michelle Bachmann will pick up his supporters. She still gets my vote if she stays in for my State's primary.

I really like Michelle Bachmann, but I think if Cain steps down Newt and Romney will split up his supports among themselves. As far as character goes Michelle Bachmann wins in my book. She seems true to her beliefs.

[Abiding in His Word]

Feisty Cain presses ahead with bid
By Dan Sewell Associated Press

Posted: 11/30/2011 08:40:06 AM PST
Updated: 11/30/2011 08:40:07 AM PST

WEST CHESTER, Ohio -- His campaign rocked anew, a feisty Herman Cain claimed a "groundswell of positive support" from backers on Wednesday and accused critics of trying to derail his White House bid as he worked to stem the fallout form allegations of a 13-year extramarital affair.

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[Sword of Geddon]

This day and age the media is bias and untrustworthy, they have an agenda and their reporting is borderline propaganda. That is why more and more people are going to alternative sources for their news.

Everyone has an agenda, Sword, ...everyone. Believers have an agenda; the media has an agenda; sports figures have an agenda; politicians have an agenda. The media will report information that may or may not be true. If it's found to be untrue, that will be reported as well. Again, it's their job; reporting information is what they do. We don't have to like what they report, but we shouldn't negate the necessity for media reporting.

Are there other/alternative news sources besides the media; i.e. TV, internet, newspapers, radio, etc.?

Well, there is talk radio, internet independent news sites such as World Net Daily or The Blaze.com(and GBTV), as well as Blogs, all three of these offer an alternate point of view to the liberal leaning partisan press(ABC, CBS and especially NBC).

There is a reason the traditional news sources are losing money(New York Times is/has gone bankrupt) and it is because people want unbias reporting, or at least the truth, and not slanted reporting and outright lies.

THe job of the media is not just to report, it is to report the truth, the unbias truth.

[daffyladysson]

Uh oh! The latest accuser is sexual harasser in her own right! She sexually harassed her ex-LESBIAN LOVER.

http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in ... erman-cain

From Herman Cain's facebook fan page.

From Team HC: The dictionary definition of the word reassess is: "To consider or assess again, especially while paying attention to new or different factors." The definition does not sound like dropping out...

Incidentally this woman is stating she had an affair with Herman while he had stage 4 cancer and was being pumped full of Chemo!

[mrgravyard49]

Bachmann?? Your Kidding right? She's is flaky... Come on do You REALLY think she can beat Obama???
think about it, Cain was the ONLY one who could beat obama. He got in because of the black vote, Cain would have gotten most of those voters.. The only Hope I think?? is Sara Palin. I think...?

[Sword of Geddon]

I will continue to vote for Cain. I resent the liberal smear machine attempting to control how the primary goes and will be VERY angry if they are to blame for a second obama term.

[AndCanItBe]

MANCHESTER - Herman Cain acknowledged Thursday that he repeatedly gave Ginger White money to help her with "month-to-month bills and expenses" without telling his wife of more than 40 years.

In fact, the embattled presidential candidate said, his wife, Gloria, "did not know that we were friends until she (White) came out with this story" alleging that the two had a 13-year extramarital affair.

In his most candid interview since the latest allegations emerged, Cain adamantly maintained that he and White were no more than friends.

http://www.unionleader.com/article/20111201/NEWS0605/111209989

Sigh. Can't blame this one on liberal spin, I wish it was. What poor judgment, just simply as a Christian man, let alone as someone running for office. And that's assuming his version of events is the truth. How can you stand up there and tell a nation you have no skeletons in your closet when you're keeping secrets from your wife?

[Loop]

Sorry, but I don't believe him...
He wouldn't have kept it from his wife if he was "doing a good deed..." I mean, "really" he thinks everyone is that stupid!

[member x]

I was intrigued by Herman Cain. He has charisma, seemed to be a plain speaker who connected with the audience. This was an advantage for him.

I liked the simplicity of his 9-9-9 concept, but I don’t think it can get him elected. It will get him a lot of attention with in the Tea Party and Rebulicians, but the liberals would have a field day with it.

While it has a lot of potential, it is simply too easy to poke holes at. Most notably is that a large portion of the population who pays NO tax will suddenly play 18% (9% flat tax and 9% consumption tax). While at the same time the wealthy who burden the larger tax will receive a tax break. Is it fair? Yes, absolutely. Would it work? Probably, but don’t forget, a large portion of voters don’t research the details, they vote on the sound bites. Herman can produce some sound bites himself, but his plan is too easy to pick apart in that regard as well.

I also think that Cain has lacked real depth on his foreign policy. He’d be better than Obama (on all fronts, no doubt) but he has to beat him first and I just see him as an easy target. He may get some of the black vote, but more than likely many of the folks that voted for Obama won’t show up this time around. There are a lot of blacks that are turned off by Cain and his comments, whether there is truth in them or not.

Cain, I think, is done. He served a purpose and got everyone talking about a flat tax, but I don’t think he can sustain the full on attack of the liberal agenda.

[Sword of Geddon]

MANCHESTER - Herman Cain acknowledged Thursday that he repeatedly gave Ginger White money to help her with "month-to-month bills and expenses" without telling his wife of more than 40 years.

In fact, the embattled presidential candidate said, his wife, Gloria, "did not know that we were friends until she (White) came out with this story" alleging that the two had a 13-year extramarital affair.

In his most candid interview since the latest allegations emerged, Cain adamantly maintained that he and White were no more than friends.

http://www.unionleader.com/article/20111201/NEWS0605/111209989

Sigh. Can't blame this one on liberal spin, I wish it was. What poor judgment, just simply as a Christian man, let alone as someone running for office. And that's assuming his version of events is the truth. How can you stand up there and tell a nation you have no skeletons in your closet when you're keeping secrets from your wife?

And that is why I wouldn't get married if I was planning on running for President, one less thing they can use against you.

[Abiding in His Word]

And that is why I wouldn't get married if I was planning on running for President, one less thing they can use against you.

Marriage isn't the problem and certainly no one would hold the fact that someone is married against them in a presidential campaign. But the violation of marriage is another thing. Once again, it seems to place the blame anywhere else but where it belongs...with the one who is apparently involved to some degree and shouldn't be. The "world" may find it innocent enough for an unmarried man to phone a woman at 4:00 a.m. and to provide her with money for whatever the reason over a 13-yr. period. But the difference in this situation is Cain is evidently a Christian. Married or not, a Christian man ought to avoid the appearance of evil. He ought not to put himself in a compromising situation and then deny that it was a situation that was inappropriate for a believer who claims the Name of Christ publicly.

Let's hold the right one accountable for his actions; not the media, press, or marriage.

[drdos]

He's Done.....

[daffodyllady]

Know what?

Herman Cain is a minister. A minister of the Gospel is expected to help the poor. Now that a minister is running for office, he is suspected of wrongdoing if he actually did what Jesus told him to do.

He has a lot of money. A lot. Giving hundreds out of his pocket is like giving ones out of mine.

He did not "keep it a secret" from his wife, if she didn't want him to tell her of his gifts to the poor. After all, I would not want to ask my husband to tell me of every $5 he gives to every person down on their luck. That would feel like a noose around his neck, and would only emphasize the idea that I do not feel he is trustworthy.

Ginger White is a lesbian. Her former partner during those 13 years testified in court. White was convicted of STALKING.

Those 60-odd texts? We are not told how many were from him to her, and how many were from her to him. She refuses to release the content of those texts to the public. She pretends to tell all, but is hiding something.

A stalker who is given money WILL text that goodhearted person to try to get more money. And she will stalk that person via text, email, whatever way possible, to get more.

Herman Cain strikes me as somewhat naive. He is very personable, but he gets his foot in his mouth easily. This type of personality would have a hard time knowing how to get rid of a female needy stalker.

I believe in Herman's heart. But I'm not sure about his brain.

[Abiding in His Word]

Herman Cain is a minister. A minister of the Gospel is expected to help the poor. Now that a minister is running for office, he is suspected of wrongdoing if he actually did what Jesus told him to do.

There are more appropriate channels to provide for the poor imo. No matter how we try to whitewash the whole thing, it has the appearance of evil. His involvement with a single woman in whatever the form for a number of years has led to this unfortunate scenario. Ministers ought to know better.

[AndCanItBe]

Herman Cain is a minister. A minister of the Gospel is expected to help the poor. Now that a minister is running for office, he is suspected of wrongdoing if he actually did what Jesus told him to do.

There are more appropriate channels to provide for the poor imo. No matter how we try to whitewash the whole thing, it has the appearance of evil. His involvement with a single woman in whatever the form for a number of years has led to this unfortunate scenario. Ministers ought to know better.

Exactly. We are to be wise as serpents and innocent as doves. I can extend grace and understand how a Christian man's kind-heartedness may have caused him to help someone in a seriously unthinking manner, but he's running for President of the United States. This is so lacking in prudence, affair or not, it causes me to seriously question his ability to lead wisely.

[member x]

Herman Cain is a minister. A minister of the Gospel is expected to help the poor. Now that a minister is running for office, he is suspected of wrongdoing if he actually did what Jesus told him to do.

There are more appropriate channels to provide for the poor imo. No matter how we try to whitewash the whole thing, it has the appearance of evil. His involvement with a single woman in whatever the form for a number of years has led to this unfortunate scenario. Ministers ought to know better.

Exactly! In contrast, Billy Graham wouldn't even step foot in an elevator with just himself and a woman.

[member x]

Know what?

Herman Cain is a minister. A minister of the Gospel is expected to help the poor. Now that a minister is running for office, he is suspected of wrongdoing if he actually did what Jesus told him to do.

He has a lot of money. A lot. Giving hundreds out of his pocket is like giving ones out of mine.

He did not "keep it a secret" from his wife, if she didn't want him to tell her of his gifts to the poor. After all, I would not want to ask my husband to tell me of every $5 he gives to every person down on their luck. That would feel like a noose around his neck, and would only emphasize the idea that I do not feel he is trustworthy.

Ginger White is a lesbian. Her former partner during those 13 years testified in court. White was convicted of STALKING.

Those 60-odd texts? We are not told how many were from him to her, and how many were from her to him. She refuses to release the content of those texts to the public. She pretends to tell all, but is hiding something.

A stalker who is given money WILL text that goodhearted person to try to get more money. And she will stalk that person via text, email, whatever way possible, to get more.

Herman Cain strikes me as somewhat naive. He is very personable, but he gets his foot in his mouth easily. This type of personality would have a hard time knowing how to get rid of a female needy stalker.

I believe in Herman's heart. But I'm not sure about his brain.

I am sorry, but this whole thing just stinks. A marriage is to become one flesh…it’s not a matter of giving in secret…his wife should know about it, especially this. It’s just incredibly poor judgment, which raises questions about his ability to lead a nation, or he was doing something he shouldn’t have, which likewise raises the same questions (if integrity is a measuring stick).

I don’t know what he did or didn’t do, but he certainly failed to avoid the appearance of evil.

[Sword of Geddon]

How does something that happened years ago that has nothing to do with the presidency even matter? This is seriously a campaign by the progressive left and the media to tarnish Cain so that Evangelicals are less likely to vote for him. The sad thing is, it appears to be working.

I guarantee you the same will be done to Bachmann if she climbs up again, or Santorum if he somehow got up to frontrunner status. The smear campaign by the media may not take the same form, but I guarantee you the attacks will come.

[Jericho]

In Herman Cain's case it seems to be guilty until proven innocent.

[water]

I have been thinking about this latest allegation.

First, the amount of money he probably gave this lady would be like me slipping $20 to someone...so not such a big deal; however, it was very unwise not to tell his wife. Not sure what he was thinking...bad choice...now he has to deal with the fallout.

[daffodyllady]

The more I have watched and listened to Cain, the less I feel he should be President.

Even if all these allegations of infidelity are false, he still does not make the grade.
He has to backtrack and "clarify" former statements too often. His mouth runs too easily; he exposes his ignorance on important subjects often.

Yes, he is very qualified to crunch numbers. However, his personality is too free-wheeling. He does things that later come back to hurt him... like giving money personally to poor, needy women, and even giving them his personal cell phone number! And not telling his wife about it. He should have been more circumspect than that. Even when you put this in the best light possible, it does not speak well of his judgment. Do we really want this lack of good judgment in the white house? (Granted, we have had precious little good judgment in the white house for many years!)

But this kind of carelessness will not cut it these days, for a conservative.
The popular news media will not help him cover his tracks, as they help liberals.

[mrgravyard49]

Well, he quit.. So time to quit dreaming and move on...
Where we like it or not Obama gets his 2ed term...

[Sword of Geddon]

That really stinks. I guess my support will go to Michelle. Maybe it is time for a woman's touch...and I don't mean Hillary.

On another note I think the perfect person to run and be both a man of character and tough enough to handle the vipers of the liberal smear machine would be either Clint Eastwood or Chuck Norris. If it was Clint, he would carry a gun with him at all times and if a liberal reporter gets out of hand, he could just shoot him(I heard you media types liked character assassination..well are you feeling lucky?). If it was Chuck Norris, the liberal press wouldn't say a thing about him, because they would know that the only reason they exist is because Chuck Norris allows them to.

[daffodyllady]

Why is it that Michelle Bachman makes my skin crawl? Her eyes... her nails.., her way of speaking... I think it's everything together.