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The Orange Mailman wrote:Hi Truth In Love-
I think sometimes we get caught up in certain aspect of the great tribulation that we overlook other aspects. For instance, we emphasize how believers will be persecuted, put to death, perhaps denied food (?), but what about other portions of these same passages? For instance, let's start with Luke 17:20-37. Jesus talks about the unchanging nature of the people of this world. He points to the days of Noah and draws a parallel. Just like in Noah's days, those people carried on just like they always had. They kept getting married, they kept having children, they kepts having feasts, building houses, selling merchandise, and then when the flood came, they were taken by surprise. They had no idea this worldwide judgment was coming. So from one perspective, yes, certain events will transpire that will make this world a crazy place for a while. However, in another sense, the world will just keep on functioning as if no judgment were hanging over their heads.
There is persecution in the world now. Does this mean that believers and non-believers do not coexist?
Believers and non-believers will continue to go to work together, cohabitate with each other, attend the same functions
So, if I can just speak the truth in love, Truth In Love, we should not let sensationalization eclipse other aspects of these prophecies. We can speculate what it might be like, there’s no harm in that. But let’s not overlook the fact that these same prophecies portray a world that just keeps on going, unaware of what is unfolding. Both aspects will be fulfilled shortly.
Perhaps the ones who were not taken in the rapture are rejected believers?
How will it be that a believer and and unbeliever will be sharing a bed together up to the rapture??
So....at the point of the rapture, believers will have been undergoing the great tribulation for a while now. Murder is rampant all over the globe and few believers will be alive towards the end.
Hmmm! Or the Inward man taken and the outward man left ....
TexasBeliever wrote:Here's a scary thought: remember the story of the bridemaids waiting for the groom with their lamps? There were all waiting but half of them were locked outside the gates. Perhaps the ones who were not taken in the rapture are rejected believers?
Jesus said of those terrible times; "Pray constantly, that you may be found worthy to stand before the Son of Man."
Sunny wrote:RollinTHUNDER, I am so glad you resurrected this old thread. I had not seen it before.
That some Christians will be ready and some will not be is something my Dad preached decades ago. I had forgotten it. It gives me a lot to think about.
The sheep are granted entry into the millennial kingdom because they ministered to the least of Christ' brethren.
Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. Matt. 25:45-46
Sunny wrote:That throws a monkey wrench in my understanding of who will populate the millennium. :)
Truthinlove wrote:I am trying to understand this, but it doesn't seem to make sense from a pre-wrath perspective where we will be here going through the great tribulation prior to the rapture.
Matt. 24:40-41 "Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one will be left. Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one will be left."
Again....this doesn't seem to fit with the prewrath scenario of a rapture out of great tribulation. Why would believers be right there will unbelievers?? Unbelievers will be killing believers. I think believers will either be in hiding, or they will be killed. It doesn't seem like they will be out in the open doing normal things during the great tribulation. And....are they working in those verses?? How will believers be able to work without the mark of the beast, there will be no buying and selling for those who refuse the mark so how would they be paid?
I am confused.
rollinTHUNDER wrote:Those who are ready [costly stones] will go in the rapture and rule over all the Kings goods (greatest in the kingdom).
Sonbeam wrote:If a believer has been born again, he/she is "ready" when the Lord returns.
(3) SEED SOWN AMONG THE THORNS: Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with dissipation, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you unexpectedly like a trap.
Mat 13:22 The seeds that fell among thorn bushes stand for those who hear the message; but the worries about this life and the love for riches choke the message, and they don't bear fruit.
Mar 4:18 Other people are like the seeds sown among the thorn bushes. These are the ones who hear the message,
Mar 4:19 but the worries about this life, the love for riches, and all other kinds of desires crowd in and choke the message, and they don't bear fruit.
Luk 8:14 The seeds that fell among thorn bushes stand for those who hear; but the worries and riches and pleasures of this life crowd in and choke them, and their fruit never ripens.
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