My 7 year old announced the other day that she was a vegetarian. That lasted about 2 hours.

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bchandler wrote:... that just can't happen in my house unless my wife either commits to it, or passes before I do (unlikely).
daffodyllady wrote:bchandler wrote:... that just can't happen in my house unless my wife either commits to it, or passes before I do (unlikely).
....You aren't secretly hoping for such a thing, are you? Because I think that would be very close to breaking a commandment.
jgilberAZ wrote:What I got from the book is this ...
She tried hard to live a life where her sustenance did not depend on the death of another living animal. So, she adhered to a strict vegan diet.
The problem is, and the book outlines her journey to this understanding, our existence is one of eat and be eaten.
Vegans eat produce. Yet, that produce requires NPK to grow. And, that NPK comes from the death of living organisms.
It is not possible to eat anything that hasn't somehow benefited from the death of a living organism.
It was a torturous journey for her. She agonized over the realization that her life depended on the death of other animals.
I found it to be an interesting example of someone who faces the truth and accepts it, even though it goes contrary to her firmly held convictions.
I would like to see that same kind of honest self examination in some of the people I've witnessed to ... my daughter, for instance.
While she mentions her health issues, the online portion of the book doesn't really provide many details re: what (exactly) she ate, nor what (exactly) were her symptoms. (Unless I skimmed over that part).
As I said previously, I do think there is much upon which we agree.
- Jeff
Brothers, join in imitating me, and keep your eyes on those who walk according to the example you have in us. For many, of whom I have often told you and now tell you even with tears, walk as enemies of the cross of Christ. Their end is destruction, their god is their belly, and they glory in their shame, with minds set on earthly things. But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself. (Philippians 3:17-21)
Abiding in His Word wrote:OK....I've been browsing this topic for quite awhile and never read any tips/advice on putting weight on.... Any?
burien1 wrote:Abiding in His Word wrote:OK....I've been browsing this topic for quite awhile and never read any tips/advice on putting weight on.... Any?
We should all be so lucky.![]()
My Mom struggled with this her whole life, till she started putting candy bars in dishes in every room. Eats 4 slices of buttered white bread daily. And eats cupcakes and donuts every day. She has gained 15 pounds, but I`m afraid she`ll end up with type 2 diabetes. She used to drink that Ensure stuff, too. She might have gained, but I don`t think its a healthy gain.
The best way to lose excess stored fat and maintain (or even build) muscle is to eat plenty of protein to provide the building blocks for new muscle and to convert to blood sugar as needed while keeping overall calories low enough so that fat is burned to make up the energy deficit. The best diet to follow in order to accomplish all this easily is a whole-food low-carb diet. Protein is high, calories are low, and the limited carbohydrate insures that insulin levels remain low so that the fat easily flows from the fat cells and makes its way to the cellular furnaces for burning.
extravagantchristian wrote:abiding... cheese and potato chips are high calorieAnd butter... put lots of butter on your food.
daffodyllady wrote:I can't imagine how it would feel to need to put weight ON.
jgilberAZ wrote:.
Taubes has a new book coming out pretty soon (December): Why We Get Fat and what to do about it
Here's an interview with him discussing the new book:
http://www.thelivinlowcarbshow.com/shownotes/2403/the-return-of-gary-taubes-episode-401
I haven't read his books. But, have watched his presentation online a couple time, and listened to a couple interviews. It's hard to argue with biochemistry, no?
- Jeff
extravagantchristian wrote:I was just thinking about the "4 food groups", and how they recommend that we eat more grains than anything else each day, something crazy like 6-9 servings. But do grains even contain any nutritional benefit, that can only be obtained from grains? Like, I understand why we should eat meat, fruits, and veggies, because they each have their own UNIQUE nutritional benefits, but as far as I know, grains don't have much nutritional value all by themselves, let alone any significant benefits that are unique making them a necessary part of our diet. Am I wrong? Like, I'm sure if we ate only meat, fruit, veggies and nuts, that would be 100% nutritionally complete right? So why do "they" tell us we need to eat MORE grains than anything else?
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eeww I was wrong, they reccomend 6-11 servings of grains per day
Her photographs revealed that after 145 days, the burger and fries appeared as fresh as the day they were purchased from McDonald’s nearly 5 months ago.
For those of you who consider these eternal McDonald’s hamburger claims over the top, consider this: McDonald’s chicken McNuggets contain tertiary butylhydroquinone (TBHQ), a petroleum-based product also added to varnishes, lacquers, resins, and oil field additives, and dimethylpolysiloxane, an anti-foaming agent used in Silly Putty.
Diet rules:
1. If no one sees you eat something, it has no calories.
2. When drinking a Diet Coke with a chocolate bar, the Diet Coke cancels out the sugar in the chocolate bar.
3. When you eat with someone else, calories don’t count if you do not eat more than they do.
4. Food used for medicinal purposes does not count (for example, hot chocolate, toast, cheesecake, and vodka.)
5. If you fatten up the people around you, you are automatically thinner by comparison.
6. Movie theater foods have a zero calorie count as they are part of the entertainment package and not counted as food intake. This includes popcorn, Snow Caps, and ice cream.
7. Cookie pieces have no calories because breaking the cookies up causes calorie leakage.
8. Foods licked from spoons and forks have no fat if you are in the process of cooking something.
9. Anything eaten while standing has no calories due to gravity and the density of the calorie mass.
10. Food consumed from someone else’s plate has no fat as it rightfully belongs to the other person and will cling to his or her plate.
And remember: STRESSED spelled backwards is DESSERTS.
bchandler wrote:I am not a god or a doctor, and nothing i say should be construed as medical advice or even as correct. I am merely a living soul who is exercising my unalienable rights, endowed upon me by my creator, and recognized in the Constitution for the united States of America, to freely speak about the things i believe. No other soul should grant my words any weight without first determining their credibility and/or accuracy for themselves.
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