Strange Lights Filmed Over the Temple Mount Yesterday

by **amessenger4god** on Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:08 pm

People at the Armon Hanatziv panoramic lookout filmed these strange lights/UFOs hovering and moving up and down over the Temple Mount yesterday. Check out the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0lEqR1Oy3I&feature=player_embedded

by **aaron** on Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:43 pm

At 1:20 in the video, the object apparently settles down to earth and takes off faster than any jet I've ever seen. Rocket launch, missle .. never seen anything that fast before. I'd like an explanation from the IDF on that object in the sky. :eek:

by **GodsStudent** on Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:01 pm

You're right. The speed at which that thing moved was astonishing.

by **jgilberAZ** on Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:50 pm

Very strange indeed.

by **amessenger4god** on Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:51 pm

I can't help but wonder if these lights have something to do with my other post (about the generators the Wakf brought onto the Temple Mount: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/141937). Like... what if that was a practice run for faking the return of Christ?

by **Jericho** on Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:36 pm

If it his real it would have to be super natural, not even rockets can take off that fast.

by **Passion** on Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:45 pm

by **amessenger4god** on Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:01 am

A second video from someone else's camera phone was just put up on YouTube. Even better vantage point of the "ball of light" that descends on Al-Aqsa:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a89NLhHS7Mw&feature=player_embedded

Here is the original video with English translation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0lEqR1Oy3I&feature=relmfu

And lastly, here is one showing the two side-by-side, which identifies the Dome of the Rock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwp_WHFhA4A&feature=related

SWEET MERCY, I JUST FOUND THIS ONE BELOW!!!!! Filmed REALLY close to the Dome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlte2GkA8XQ

The ball of light hovers over the Dome for 22-23 seconds in each video before shooting up faster than a rocket.

by **Finaldash** on Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:33 am

WOW what is that? The 3rd video was amazing!! Definitely convinced me. No CGI there!!

by **notworthcomparing** on Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:58 am

stunning.

something strange and it don't look good - who you gonna call...

:)

:bowing:

by **denise** on Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:21 am

by **drdos** on Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:08 am

Ahhh come on it's just a Balloon! :wink:

Really just a really really fast balloon... :mrgreen:

by **jgilberAZ** on Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:16 am

Why is there a flash of light before the thing zooms up in the first video, but, no flash of light in the second video?

Not saying this is fake, but I did notice that difference.

Very strange.

- Jeff

by **drdos** on Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:24 am

jgilberAZ wrote:Why is there a flash of light before the thing zooms up in the first video, but, no flash of light in the second video?

Not saying this is fake, but I did notice that difference.

Very strange.

- Jeff

I saw the flash in the 2nd vid. OK now that I saw the 4th one in the list from the Dome of the Rock area I did not see any flash... Weird.

by **GodsStudent** on Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:09 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlte2GkA8XQ

In this one, when the light flashed and shot up in the sky, the crowd gasped, and that gasp was telling of just how many people were watching this thing.

fwiw, I googled ball light temple mount and saw lots of stuff about this event. Seems this isn't the first and only time it's happened there. Here's just one of the videos that was on youtube. There is another from a year ago, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_aFawvx ... er&list=UL

Here's the one from a year ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkfXsL3I ... r_embedded

by **david** on Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:31 pm

I watched this before bed last night and had a little trouble going to sleep because this appears quite real. Good post amessenger4god.

One convincing piece besides the talking/gasping crowed to me was; the vertical angle the object took off in matches both the far away camera and the near camera according to their positions.

It's possible the flash was a camera, but somehow it appeared to flash one time closer to the far away video camera then again further away so...?

As we are headed toward our solar max I have been observing an increase in "traffic" around the solar sphere.

david

by **david** on Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:11 pm

This guy says it's a hoax.

http://blogs.howstuffworks.com/2011/01/ ... y-28-2011/

by **amessenger4god** on Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:35 pm

I have to be honest, I really think this one is probably real. His 'hoax' explanation seems pretty reactionary and trivial. For example, he doesn't really offer any explanation except what a few others had put up on YouTube. One of his "proofs" is that in the video where the vantage point shows a lot of golden light, the ball of light seems to "bounce", but in the others it doesn't. When you actually watch the critic's video, you see that the bounce is very slight and the person holding the camera is shaking it slightly side-to-side.

I compared the timing between the three videos and they match: the ball descends and then hovers for 22-23 seconds, before flying up. What really gets me, is like someone said in the comments of the recent video, that the audio is a single seamless track, which fits perfectly with the video: all the tourists notice the light and then exactly 23 seconds later they all gasp when it flies up. And notice that the flashing lights only occur in the two videos from a farther distance and don't seem to "flash" from the ball, but at a distance around the ball. The third video seems to be from a vantage point where the tourists are within the area where the flash did not occur.

There are many hoaxes out there, but this one seems too seamless between all three videos to be a hoax. You will always have those reactionary-skeptic types who immediately cry "hoax" as soon as they see something unnatural.

Also, the first two "proof" videos on that guy's website don't offer any explanation as to why this is a hoax, they just show the original footage, one lighter, and the other with red lines. The third video he offers is the kicker though, what has he proven? That someone can make a green, purple, and red light look like they fly by using a video editor? The original footage still looks seamless.

by **Loop** on Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:25 pm

This guy says it's a hoax.

When has there ever been one that someone hasn't came out and called it an hoax ? Just sayin... :wink:

by **david** on Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:43 pm

amessenger4god wrote:I have to be honest, I really think this one is probably real. His 'hoax' explanation seems pretty reactionary and trivial. For example, he doesn't really offer any explanation except what a few others had put up on YouTube. One of his "proofs" is that in the video edited for the sake of space...

amessenger4god First off, I agree with you and I sense your taking a rational approach as well. I posted that because I think this should be examined as much as possible before coming to a conclusion. (Take Note Loop, I think anyone will have difficulty pinning me down I’m like jello.)

I'm leaning toward this being real, but again it's a good idea to perform some due diligence. The red lines not matching (“for the horizon”) seemed to be the best case they had for fraud, but then there are still the two other videos.

It would be nice to see some eye witnesses go on record with a real news agency as to the event that took place. With so many people there watching it would seem someone would have to report it.

I already know that "I want to believe" and that puts me into a vulnerable position which is why I tend to do some critical analysis for myself. Wanting to believe does equate to believing in any phenomena in and of it-self. Rather what it means to me is our Lord is closer to coming for us.

amessenger4god, I’m glad you are here and that I can chat with people like you. I would not share this with anyone I know. Yet a time may come and maybe soon when future sittings can not be ignored and they go main stream. As we both know it’s not about the oooh and ahhh or the fascination. It’s about the coming of our Lord and our going home, because that is what I really want and why I watch.

If I was to take a hypnotically guess; now no rebuttal please I’m just hypothesizing so... I’m sure many here would think this is a deception as I do and I’m not saying a hoax, I mean demonic deception.

Either multiple photographers stood all around the temple mount and snapped a picture at the same time or another source or power caused it to happen. Could that have been God warning the intruder that it was not time yet? It looked to me, the way that thing took off that it was just as startled as everyone else. I still frame the flash, it was a double pulse and it appears to light up all around the temple mount, It did not appear to come at all from the orb.

NIV

John 1:5 The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.

Bible in Basic English

And the light goes on shining in the dark; it is not overcome by the dark.

(About half the translations suggest the darkness “can not” overcome the light, as though the darkness is battling trying to extinguish the light.)

I believe that darkness is using a form of light to perform its deception. All the “orb” type images and video footage and personal eye witness footage I have seen all have one thing in common. They have an accompanying dark blobs attached or spots in close proximity. It can and does wrap itself completely in the light appearing as “light”. This appears to be the case for what descended on the Dome of the Rock.

Godstudent had re-posted (I think I seen it here before) this footage of an orb circling around the Temple mount. When the footage is slowed down you can also see dark shadows descending to the right of it. You have to be careful though because bird’s easily make suspicious “shadows”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_aFawvx ... er&list=UL

Side Note:
The Dome of the Rock is over just that A rock, It’s is not the threshing floor where the Holy of Holies is thought to be which appears to be where the “Dome of the Spirits” is actually standing.

by **GodsStudent** on Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:46 pm

Are the calling it a hoax or are they scoffing? I wonder, because that has become very commonplace these days. I use the word scoffing lightly here, because I feel this light stuff can't be good news for us. As to the lights in colors......we saw colors on the hovering craft 2 years ago, September, when we visited, and I have posted a lot about what I saw. The craft I saw, each one, was changing colors, and all the colors were quite vivid....there WAS purple, orange, green, blue.....I saw it with my own eyes, and so did my husband....and they hovered a good 15 minutes before darting across the skyline, much like this one did (but perhaps not "quite" as fast....but close!).

by **amessenger4god** on Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:49 pm

Lol. I'm leaning towards scoffing because their argument was pretty silly. Basically anything supernatural is considered a hoax these days (and that includes God, the Bible, Genesis, and all that).

Another thing that seems to indicate authenticity is if you look carefully in video #3, it appears that the light is 'behind' the graininess and parallel lines... in other words, someone did not just film the Dome and then edit the light in later, because it flows seamlessly with the background itself.

Anyway, if it is a hoax, like you said David, it's a hoax in the sense of a demonic deception. I would assume that if the light was an angel or from God, then it would not be hovering right over the Dome, but rather over where the Holy of Holies once stood... unless of course the Dome covers that spot.

I can't help but wonder if preparations are being made for a huge hoax (perhaps the Great Deception) where the Imam Mahdi appears to descend on the Temple Mount... or something along those lines.

by **bchandler** on Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:28 pm

The hoax explanation is as follows.

When you stabilize the horizon in the video, it should stabilize ALL of the elements except for what is ACTUALLY in motion! In this video, this does not happen. In stead we see that the foreground containing the balcony and observer continue to move and rotate. This could not happen if this were a single seamless live shot. It could only happen if 2 or more different pieces of video were spliced together in an FX editing tool.

That is what the red lines are showing you... the difference in stability between two different elements in the video that should have equal, relational motion within the frame.

by **Loop** on Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:51 pm

I can't help but wonder if preparations are being made for a huge hoax (perhaps the Great Deception) where the Imam Mahdi appears to descend on the Temple Mount... or something along those lines

My husband said this too.

BChandler, thanks for the explination... Makes sense..

by **daffodyllady** on Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:37 pm

If I was to take a hypnotically guess; now I’m not looking for any rebuttal here I’m just hypnotizing so...

I would guess you meant a hypothetical guess... hypothesizing...?

by **stitchincricket** on Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:01 pm

There's two completely different videos from different distances and angles and they both show this object of light hovering over the dome of the rock for the same amount of time. I don't think there's any coincidence with this and all of the turmoil in the Mideast happening at the same time. I think that the heat just got turned up on the "signs and wonders" and that the clock just took another tick closer to midnight and we're going home sooner than we thought.

Preach the Gospel like there's no tomorrow, because there may not be!

Stacy

by **david** on Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:14 pm

daffodyllady wrote:
If I was to take a hypnotically guess; now I’m not looking for any rebuttal here I’m just hypnotizing so...

I would guess you meant a hypothetical guess... hypothesizing...?

Ummm, yes as you said... sp over ride error. :cheeky:

Tanks, Tanks a lot.

by **Finaldash** on Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:36 am

bchandler wrote:The hoax explanation is as follows.

When you stabilize the horizon in the video, it should stabilize ALL of the elements except for what is ACTUALLY in motion! In this video, this does not happen. In stead we see that the foreground containing the balcony and observer continue to move and rotate. This could not happen if this were a single seamless live shot. It could only happen if 2 or more different pieces of video were spliced together in an FX editing tool.

That is what the red lines are showing you... the difference in stability between two different elements in the video that should have equal, relational motion within the frame.

So what are you saying Bchandler? Is this a hoax or not? :)

by **david** on Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:30 pm

De-bunking the De-bunkers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPrBlbz_-1o

A good analytical response. You decide...

by **bchandler** on Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:27 pm

I'm not saying one way or the other... I am simply explaining the argument of the person who rendered the analysis of the stabilized video image.

But If you are asking my opinion... I would have to say that it is a hoax... once you stabilize the background, there is to much incorrect motion in the foreground, and a complete lack of parallax motion. Just watch the way the edge of the balcony and the trees on the right edge of the screen bounce all over the place... just not possible.

by **GodsStudent** on Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:03 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv ... ion_393904

The formation of these craft on this abc report I just saw on youtube is THE SAME THING MY HUSBAND AND I SAW. Same exact formation. Nothing dropped from the ones we saw, but the formation was exactly the same! :eek:

by **amessenger4god** on Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:07 pm

IMHO, the bounce, which is slight, seems to go hand-in-hand with frame changes--something pronounced that you would expect with a cheap cell phone camera. The "debunking the debunkers" video does present a sound argument. The balcony and tree are magnitudes closer to the camera lens than is the background, so the foreground would 'bounce' much more as the spectator holds his cell phone. If it was a hoax I would certainly expect it to be related to the light itself rather than the video's setting (it would be much, much easier for the hoaxer to simply add the light, rather than splice a separate background and foreground in such a precise way that it looks exactly like the Armon Hantziv lookout). I could be wrong, but that's how I see it.

by **mrgravyard49** on Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:00 am

I believe UFO's are THE Grande Delusion.. In the last few months there seems to be many..
We are Soon VERY Soon to go Home!

by **T_W_M** on Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:32 am

Third is a fake.

A fourth is released that looks Very very interesting though...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD_VBiYadTE

by **ReadyFuels** on Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:12 am

If the third one is a fake they got the timing matched to a T, I've run all 4 starting at the same time as it stops descending and all 4 accelerate at exactly the same time. :shock:

by **ReadyFuels** on Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:38 am

Yes your right the 3rd is defiantly a fake, Here is is a response by someone at GLP:
"I timed when the Light orb dropped in the original videos to where it took off.
Both the original video and the one with the American tourists were timed the same around 23seconds from when it dropped down til it took off."

by **GodsStudent** on Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:53 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Xb9JoGyy98

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/02/ ... atestnews#

Looks like main stream media has taken an interest.....here we go......when people meet demons........(imo, of course)

by **Mr Dan** on Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:00 pm

Signs and wonders in the heavens. Daniel 11 has been on my mind the last week.

by **david** on Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:04 pm

T_W_M wrote:Third is a fake.

A fourth is released that looks Very very interesting though...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD_VBiYadTE

I watched this video, did anyone else notice that the orb appear higher in the air than in the other videos? If this person is closer that may explain the CCD bleed of light making appear larger and a different shape. Also all CCD cameras are not equal. They vary extremely in capability, from res. to frame rate to white balance etc... In the other two or three vids it seems to come much lower. Maybe it appears higher being filmed from a different perspective, as it may have been shot from a lower angle looking up. Anyone?

by **smallisland** on Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:15 am

I don't know why but whenever I see anything to do with UFOs I just switch off. Maybe its because I've never been able to stand sci-fi, but it just leaves me cold.

by **Loop** on Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:17 am

I don't know if the video's are real, all I know is I saw something similar ziping around in the sky here where I live several years ago, it went to fast and stopped to quick and went the other way to be any kind of airplane and also went to high till finally went out of sight, I figured it had to be an angel, (good or bad ?) no idea... But it didn't scare me..
And there was no way it was some light from earth.....

by **amessenger4god** on Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:51 am

Check this out, it is the 1st, 2nd, and 4th video synched and they match up... might I say... precisely: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu4ri2GozIY&feature=related

It makes me think that the 1st, 2nd, and 4th are real, and the 3rd was someone just jumping in with the hype.

by **Loop** on Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:40 pm

I don't know if this one has been put up yet ? brings it in closer and slows it down....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jczjyV4v3i0&feature=player_embedded

by **GodsStudent** on Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:45 pm

Ewww...at about 12 seconds on the close up view, it almost looks like wings flapping on either side of this ?orb? Then, when the bright light flashes, the body of the orb then intentionally flits off.....makes it almost look more like a self propelled think (like a person /angel / demon would look, in control of itself) than like a craft or ship of some kind. :dunno:

by **GodsStudent** on Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:50 pm

Also, when the thing flashed, it seemed to draw energy from the circle of lights below it? What do you guys think? Are you seeing that, too? Just wondering.

by **Mr Dan** on Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:58 pm

GodsStudent wrote:Ewww...at about 12 seconds on the close up view, it almost looks like wings flapping on either side of this ?orb? Then, when the bright light flashes, the body of the orb then intentionally flits off.....makes it almost look more like a self propelled think (like a person /angel / demon would look, in control of itself) than like a craft or ship of some kind.

I saw that as well and refrained from posting because I wasnt sure if I was projecting my opinion where it didnt belong, But I agree. Thought it appeared that way as well.

Also concerning the light.

Initially I thought it originated from the ground as well but watching it repeatedly in slo mo it appears to pulse from the object and illuminate the ground.

by **laney** on Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:10 pm

Thats what I thought also.

Can anyone tell what kind of pattern the lights give off? I was thinking first maybe a triangle and then when I watched it again, maybe a pattern of a star?

by **david** on Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:25 pm

laney wrote:Thats what I thought also.

Can anyone tell what kind of pattern the lights give off? I was thinking first maybe a triangle and then when I watched it again, maybe a pattern of a star?

I thought about that too; I don't think it's a good idea to attempt deciphering anything from what may be the fallen ones.

With the world the way it is and things spinning out of control I have to come back to:

Php 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

by **laney** on Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:53 pm

Hi David. The reason I ask is that seems like I have read somewhere about a lot of UFO's bing in a triangler shape.

Php 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

Yes it is hard to think of these things in this day and time but that is a great scripture to remember.

God bless you!

by **Finaldash** on Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:07 pm

What if the Two Witnesses have been dropped off? :bag: