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Come on our Govt wouldn't cover up anything like that.Mttw633 wrote:Proof- they are blocking information from the public:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKn_2neBSyo
First you need to spell it right and then you'll see a ton of links (Niribu)plalgum wrote:Come on Guys and girls, for crying out loud,check under your beds right now if you must, but the truth of the matter is that if this nuberu nonsense were true,.Don't you think that today's armature astronomers with there bang up to date telescopes would have swamped the web with their sightings.Their silence is deafning.
There are spirals everywhere in petroglyphs. The spirals in the rock drawings are often grouped with huge waves, mountains, goats, and people running to higher ground. Is it possible that these spirals in the sky are associated with the return of Planet X and the havoc it possibly wreaked on this planet in eras long past?
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring ; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken . 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 And when these things begin to come to pass , then look up , and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh .
Vatican’s LUCIFER Telescope on Apache Holy Land
by Aaron on April 28, 2010 · 3 comments
in Conspiracies, Page A14, geopsychology
It doesn’t get much weirder than this . . .
Discovery.com: LUCIFER to Reveal Fiery Starbirth:
A seriously big telescope is in the works on a mountain top in Arizona. The Large Binocular Telescope, or LBT, has two 8-meter wide mirrors that work together to form one powerful telescope. Its capabilities are being expanded as a powerful new instrument called LUCIFER will be attached to the LBT ready for scientific observations.
Image Source: Max-Planck-Institut für extraterrestrische Physik
LUCIFER, is a telescope apparatus for the U of Arizona’s Binocular Telescope, will be housed at the Mount Graham Observatory, the same complex that hosts the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope (VATT).
Where would the Max Planck Institute and the Vatican locate their apparatus for exploring other worlds? Why, on some indigenous land . . .
Happy reading:
Mount Graham: Science and Apache Religion by Ojibwa
For many Native American nations there are certain geographic places which have special spiritual meanings. These sacred places are often portals to the spirit worlds. For the Apache in Arizona, one of these sacred places is Mount Graham: this place is called Dzil Nchaa Si An (Big Seated Mountain) and is mentioned in 32 of the sacred songs which have been handed down through the oral tradition for many generations. It is here that the Ga’an, the guardian spirits of the Apache, live.
In 1873, Mount Graham was removed from the boundaries of the San Carlos Reservation and placed in public domain. The spiritual value of Mount Graham to the Apache was not considered. This action set the stage for conflict a century later.
The Heart of Genuine Sadness: Astronomers, politicians, and federal employees desecrate the holiest mountain of the San Carlos Apache by Peter Warshall
In the early 1980s, the University of Arizona sought a special permit to construct seventeen telescopes on the Pinaleño Mountains. The Pinaleños are sometimes known for their highest peak, Mt. Graham; sometimes for the site of the present contested forest, Emerald Peak. The proposal ran head-on into concerns about the ecological value of the high elevations of this “sky island ecosystem,” a mountain range isolated from others by desert in a manner similar to oceanic islands isolated by salt water. The project upset the San Carlos Apache medicine practitioners who emerged for the first time since internment to defend the sacred peaks and prevent further desecration. The Vatican and Max Planck (Germany) telescopes have been built. A third telescope site has been cleared and awaits full funding. The “Heart of Genuine Sadness” is a small piece of the much larger story.
Star Whores: Astronomers vs. Apaches on Mount Graham by JEFFREY ST. CLAIR
This troublesome bit of news didn’t deter the University of Arizona. In 1988, it announced plans to turn Mount Graham into a kind of astronomical strip mall, featuring seven telescopes at a cost of more than $250 million. They rounded up a bevy of partners, including the Vatican, several universities in the US and Europe and the odious Max Planck Institute, which in an earlier incarnation as the Max Planck Society gave assistance to the murderous experiments of Dr. Mengele.
The Fight for Dzil Nchaa Si An, Mt. Graham: Apaches and Astrophysical Development in Arizona by Elizabeth Brandt
Certain mountains figure prominently in the stories of the Creation and the songs which tell of the beginnings of the Holy People and of humans. The peaks are particularly important shrine areas that are associated with sacred stones or jewels, colors, directions, and critical events and persons which are significant in the traditional history of each people. The mountains are an outer form, assumed by living sacred beings: the rich vegetation, their hair. They are alive. They create the rain clouds. They bring life a the animals and the plants which people with the proper reverence and ritual may harvest to continue their own lives. They provide healing waters, curing plants, sacred animals, a home to the eagles whose feathers are sacred, and an uplifting and joy to the spirit. They are a pathway for prayer. The Apache pray through them. The sacred headdresses of the Gaan, the Mountain Spirits, are deposited there to return naturally to the earth after ceremonial use. The Gaan come from the mountains to cure and to remove evil. They appear in healing ceremonies and are especially important in young girl’s coming-of-age rituals. The mountain is important in the spiritual leaders, healers, and counselors of the Apache. Mt. Graham is mentioned in the 32 sacred songs passed on through oral tradition, as well as many other historical songs and stories. It contains burials of Apache people.
Native American Mythology a to Z (”White Painted Woman” on page 116 and “Mountains, Sacred” on page 71)
MountGraham.org: Factual Rebuttals to False Statements By Mount Graham Astronomers
Mount Graham: Science and Apache Religion
by: Ojibwa
Sat Apr 17, 2010 at 12:51:10 PM PDT
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For many Native American nations there are certain geographic places which have special spiritual meanings. These sacred places are often portals to the spirit worlds. For the Apache in Arizona, one of these sacred places is Mount Graham: this place is called Dzil Nchaa Si An (Big Seated Mountain) and is mentioned in 32 of the sacred songs which have been handed down through the oral tradition for many generations. It is here that the Ga'an, the guardian spirits of the Apache, live.
In 1873, Mount Graham was removed from the boundaries of the San Carlos Reservation and placed in public domain. The spiritual value of Mount Graham to the Apache was not considered. This action set the stage for conflict a century later.
Ojibwa :: Mount Graham: Science and Apache Religion
In 1984, the University of Arizona and the Vatican selected Mount Graham as a site for a complex of 18 telescopes. The fact that this is a sacred place for the Apache was not taken into consideration. To get around the legal barriers of the American Indian Religious Freedoms Act, the University hired a lobbying firm to put pressure on Congress to remove this, and other, roadblocks. The area in question is administered by the U.S. Forest Service.
The Vatican has an observatory staff which is officially support by the Vatican City State. The Vatican Observatory Foundation is supported by private donations. One of the important duties of the church is to maintain an accurate calendar and this requires astronomical observations. Hence the involvement of the Vatican with astronomy. The first Vatican observatory was established in 1774.
Congress passed the Arizona-Idaho Conservation Act in 1988. In response to lobbying by the University of Arizona and the Vatican, the Act included a provision to allow the construction of three telescopes on Mount Graham without having to comply with the American Indian Religious Freedoms Act or with environmental laws.
The following year the Apache Survival Coalition was started by Ola Cassadore-Davis, the daughter of Apache spiritual leader Phillip Cassadore. The purpose of the Coalition was to save Dzil Nchaa Si An from desecration by a telescope complex to be built by the University of Arizona and the Vatican.
In 1991, the San Carlos Apache Tribe passed a resolution stating that Mount Graham is sacred to them. Furthermore, the resolution stated that the tribe supported the efforts of the Apache Survival Coalition to protect the religious and cultural beliefs of the tribe.
Following the declarations of the sacredness of Mount Graham by the Apache Survival Coalition and the San Carlos Apache Tribe, the Vatican in 1991declared that Mt. Graham was not sacred because it lacked religious shrines. Jesuit Father George Coyne, director of the Vatican Observatory, indicated that he could not find an authentic Apache who thought the mountain was sacred. Father Coyne stated that to convince him that the mountain was sacred he would need to see evidence of shrines and that he would not accept Apache oral history or statements by Apache-speaking Euro-American anthropologists.
Father Coyne further declared that Apache beliefs were "a kind of religiosity to which I cannot subscribe and which must be suppressed with all the force we can muster."
The Arizona Republic (Phoenix, Arizona) reports that the Jesuit Father Charles W. Polzer calls opposition to the construction of the telescope complex on top of Mount Graham "part of a Jewish conspiracy" and comes from the Jewish lawyers of the American Civil Liberties Union who are out to undermine and destroy the Catholic Church.
In spite of opposition by the San Carlos Apache tribal council, Apache spiritual leaders, and environmental groups, actual construction of the project began in 1991.
With flagrant insensitivity to American Indians, the University of Arizona announced that it intended to name its new telescope on Mount Graham the Colum¬bus telescope in honor of the European explorer. The University was apparently unaware that Columbus is not considered to be a hero by American Indian people. Ultimately, the University withdrew the name following public response against it.
The San Carlos Apache tribal council in 1993 reaffirmed reso¬lutions opposing the construction of the telescope on Mount Graham. The council resolution stated that the telescope "constitutes a display of profound disrespect for a cherished feature of our original homeland as well as a serious violation of our tradi¬tional religious beliefs."
After meeting with Apache elders and spiritual leaders at the San Carlos Apache Reservation, the National Council of Churches in 1995 passed a resolution calling for the removal of a telescope from Mount Graham.
The President's Advisory Council on Historic Preservation in 1996 declared the entire Mount Graham observatory project to be in violation of the National Historic Preservation Act because of the project's harm to Apache culture and spiritual life, but the telescope was not removed.
In 1997, the spokesman for the Apaches for Cultural Preservation was arrested for praying on Mount Graham. The Apaches for Cultural Preservation feel that the Forest Service, the University of Arizona, and the Vatican developed the project on Mount Graham knowing that it would violate Apache religious beliefs.
President Bill Clinton, using the line item veto, deleted $10 million in federal funds for the operation of the University of Arizona's Mount Graham telescope project. San Carlos Apache Chairman Raymond Stanley and the White Mountain Apache Cultural Resources Director Ramon Riley sent letters to the President thanking him for the veto.
Beginning in 1998, the University of Arizona began requiring Indians to obtain prayer permits before they crossed the top of Mount Graham near the University's telescopes. The University's prayer policy required that the permit be requested at least two business days before the visit and that it include a description of where on the mountain the prayers will take place. Only people who were enrolled members of federally recognized tribes were allowed to pray.
In 1999, the University of Notre Dame, a Catholic university, announced that it would also build a telescope on Mount Graham. The University president claimed that he was unaware that Mount Graham was sacred to the Apache and that the Apache opposed the desecration of this sacred place. This was in spite of the fact that the building of telescopes on this sacred mountain by the University of Arizona and the Vatican was a controversial issue and had been the subject of many news stories.
In 1999, the White Mountain Apache tribal council passed a resolution urging the U.S. Forest Service to "honor its duties to protect the physical integrity of Mount Graham and its long-standing and ongoing historical, cultural and religious importance to many Apaches."
Realizing that they were making little headway with the bureaucracies of the American government (Department of the Interior and Department of Agriculture) and Congress, the Apaches took their cause to the United Nations in 1999. Ola Cassadore Davis testified before the Sub-Commission on Prevention of Discrimination and Protection of Minorities. She stated:
We Apache wish to bring to the people of this world a better understanding of Indian people, in order that we are able to preserve and freely live by our traditional culture and religious beliefs.
Source: http://www.envirolink.org/exte...
She asked that the special use permit by the Department of Agriculture Forest Service be terminated. She concluded:
In conclusion, we Apache would respectfully urge this body of the United Nations to recognize and acknowledge that the disrespect and suffering caused by the nations and governments mentioned above be terminated forthwith. We Apache petition you for a resolution consistent with the National Congress of American Indians of 1993, 1995 and July 1999. They stated that the public interest in protecting Apache culture is compelling, and that the U.S. Secretary of Agriculture should accordingly require the prompt removal of the telescopes from Mount Graham.
In 2004, the San Carlos Apache rejected an offer of $120,000 from the University of Arizona, calling it a bribe. Saying that the University had done nothing but tell lies to the Apache people, the San Carlos Apache indicated that they would continue to honor their sacred mountain. One tribal council member indicated that if the University did not have a telescope on Mount Graham they would have no interest in the Apache people.
The conflict over this sacred site is still not resolved. On the one hand it can be viewed as a conflict between two different cultures. On the other hand, it can also be seen as a conflict between science and religion.
The Mount Graham International Observatory is home to three telescopes: the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope, the Heinrich Hertz Submillimeter Telescope, and the Large Binocular Telescope. On their website, their version of the history of Mount Graham focuses on James Duncan Graham and mentions the Spanish Conquistadores. There is no mention of the Apache. Their section on the legal actions necessary for the building of the complex mentions environmental concerns, but there is no mention of the Apache spiritual concerns.
The telescopes sit on land which has been leased from the Forest Service and the lease must be regularly renewed. Efforts by American Indian people and various environmental groups have so far been unsuccessful in convincing the Forest Service to deny the renewal of the leases.
LUCIFER to Reveal Fiery Starbirth
Analysis by Nicole Gugliucci
Tue Apr 27, 2010 02:30 AM ET
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A seriously big telescope is in the works on a mountain top in Arizona. The Large Binocular Telescope, or LBT, has two 8-meter wide mirrors that work together to form one powerful telescope. Its capabilities are being expanded as a powerful new instrument called LUCIFER will be attached to the LBT ready for scientific observations.
LUCIFER is actually an acronym, although slightly tortured, standing for LBT Near Infrared Spectroscopic Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research. It has spectroscopic capabilities, meaning that it will break down light into its component wavelengths to search for spectral lines emitted or absorbed by various atoms and molecules. It is special in that it will have incredibly fine resolution over large parts of the infrared spectrum
The new instrument also has stellar (tee hee) imaging capabilities, as shown in the lovely photo (above) of a star-forming region in our galaxy. In addition to making images and taking spectra of individual objects, LUCIFER has a mode where you can take spectra of numerous objects at once, such as galaxies or gas clouds. This Swiss army knife-sounding instrument (made by the German LBT consortium, actually), all has to be cooled to cryogenic temperatures so it doesn't emit infrared light itself! It even has a robotic arm inside to change instruments without having to warm it up and get in there with human hands.
BIG PIC: The Spitzer Space Telescope imaged another stellar nursery in the Orion Nebula recently, with striking results.
Why is it so important to go to the infrared? Star forming regions generally contain a lot of dust leftover from formation or spewed forth from early supernova explosions. As you would expect, this dust obscures much of the visible light, preventing astronomers from revealing their secrets with just optical telescopes. However, infrared light can penetrate the dusty shroud, thus infrared instruments are critical to understanding the physics of star formation.
Since LBT has two mirrors, it will be receiving a second LUCIFER in 2011. And these are just two of a number of instruments that will make the LBT a powerhouse observatory. I'm not an optical or infrared astronomer myself, but I'm excited to see that a number of my colleagues at the University of Virginia are already taking advantage of this exciting observatory!
Thanks to Rachael Beaton for chatting about LUCIFER with me!
Once its fuel supply was nearly depleted, Galileo was intentionally commanded to crash into Jupiter to eliminate any chance of a future impact with Europa that could contaminate the icy moon. At the completion of its 35th and final circuit around the hostile Jovian system, Galileo's life ended as it impacted the gas giant in darkness just south of the equator on September 21, 2003, at 18:57 GMT, at a speed of approximately 48.26 kilometers per second (nearly 108,000 mph).[45] In order to crash into Jupiter, Galileo was flown by Amalthea on November 5, 2002,[46] during its 34th orbit, allowing a measurement of the moon's mass as it passed within 163.0 ± 11.7 kilometres (100 mi) of its surface. Galileo then reached its greatest distance from Jupiter for the entire mission, some 26 million kilometers on April 14, 2003, before plunging back into the gas giant, taking a little less than nine months to do so.[47]
Following the declarations of the sacredness of Mount Graham by the Apache Survival Coalition and the San Carlos Apache Tribe, the Vatican in 1991declared that Mt. Graham was not sacred because it lacked religious shrines. Jesuit Father George Coyne, director of the Vatican Observatory, indicated that he could not find an authentic Apache who thought the mountain was sacred. Father Coyne stated that to convince him that the mountain was sacred he would need to see evidence of shrines and that he would not accept Apache oral history or statements by Apache-speaking Euro-American anthropologists.
Father Coyne further declared that Apache beliefs were "a kind of religiosity to which I cannot subscribe and which must be suppressed with all the force we can muster."
in the 1990s the space sattelite Galellao was reportedly carrying plutonium and was to be crashed into Jupiter to ingnite its atmospher....
A huge fish kill in a Louisiana marsh was likely caused by annual low-oxygen conditions—but the Gulf oil spill may have been an additional "insult," experts say.
The thousands of belly-up fish were discovered Friday in the Bayou Chaland area (see map) of Plaquemines Parish.
The die-off occurred during a time of year when a giant low-oxygen "dead zone" regularly forms off the Gulf, according to Prosanta Chakrabarty, a fish biologist at Louisiana State University in Baton Rouge.
Agricultural runoff into the Mississippi River contains nutrients that support the growth of oxygen-hungry algae, which can choke out other sea life.
Mttw633 wrote:I have my doubts that it's normal. You see, it's in the area that the occult focus on. The egyptians did, the druids, the pagans mentioned in the Bible. God said in Job that He has something bound there- and will be loosed. (was He referencing Apollyon? That's my guess.)
They consider YHWH as a mean God who kept Adam in Darkenss. They look to lucifer as the light bearer of knowledge.
Exit40 wrote:HI Rev.They consider YHWH as a mean God who kept Adam in Darkenss. They look to lucifer as the light bearer of knowledge.
There is a sect in islam that believes this also. They believe God was the liar and satan spoke the truth to Adam. And so they admire and worship the one who gave man the power of knowing good and evil, so man can be as God. Of course, the only way to achieve this is following islam and through the deeper meaning of their teachings. Some of their teachings are discarded by mainstream islam, but there is the element of it many want to believe, and sufic teachings may have the path for them to follow that is more acceptable. Ever hear of the Nur movement ? Try not to puke while researching this. I'm sure you will find it interesting, and get the sense of, well, I'll let you find out for yourself. Maybe one day we can talk of this again.
God Bless You
David
DeLila wrote:I am new to understanding what feemasonry is all about. I have known a lot of good men in it and I guess I have to ask, do they know what is going on?
laney wrote:rev.2012, that is very intersting. I didn't know about a lot of this.
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