escape of the worthy from 'all these things'

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escape of the worthy from 'all these things'

Postby brower on Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:04 am

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have been studying the Olivet Discourse intensly of late and noticed a few things. Jesus uses the phrase 'all these things' or 'these things' at the beginning and end of the Discourse as a one phrase overview of what He teaches concerning the sign of His coming and the end of the age.

At the beginning of the Olivet Discourse His disciple ask Him:

'Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?' Mark 13:4.

At the end of the Olivet Discourse He says:

'And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; 30When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.' Luke 21.29-31

It looks quite clear that this is a one phrase overview of the 'end of the age.'


If these things be true then there are scripturally a couple things to notice from Luke 21.28-32.

'And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh
29And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; 30When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand. 31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand. 32Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled'

There are two different people groups in relation to 'all these things'/'these things.'
1.)There are those who will only see the beginning of 'these things' before their redemption. These woud be those found 'worthy' and escape 'all these things' of Luke 21.36; these would also be those that escape judgment as Noah did by the rapture described in Matt. 24.37-43.
2.)But there are also those who will see 'these things come to pass;' these ones will see and experience every thing Jesus teaches concering the end of the age

There is a redemption for both groups of people.

Those that escape 'all these things' will not experience the affliction/trbulation of Matt. 24.9-14 before the setting up of the abomination of Matt. 24.15 nor the great tribulation after the setting of othe abomination of desolation of Matt. 24.21.

Jesus then teaches a pre tribulation and great tribulation escape/rapture in the Olivet Discourse.

The worthy will escape 'all these things' by the rapture.
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Re: escape of the worthy from 'all these things'

Postby mrgravyard49 on Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:08 pm

AMEN!!!!
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Re: escape of the worthy from 'all these things'

Postby Keeping Alert on Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:47 pm

Amen 2!!!
Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.

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Re: escape of the worthy from 'all these things'

Postby Reborn on Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:33 am

AMEN 3!!!

This coming Tabernacles is looking like the perfect time to be Ingathered on Home. :grin:
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Re: escape of the worthy from 'all these things'

Postby Resurrection Torchlight on Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:50 am

Thanks brower for pointing this out

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Re: escape of the worthy from 'all these things'

Postby dolfseal on Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:28 am

It's funny how scripture takes on a whole different meaning when brought to a different light. I believe the Holy Spirit is shining bright right now to give great light to the Saints. We are seeing a lot of new understanding lately. I concur with your observations.
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Re: escape of the worthy from 'all these things'

Postby Jericho on Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:41 pm

Pre-tribbers are often accused as being escapists but Jesus himself said we should pray to escape the things coming. So I guess that makes Jesus an escapists too. At least I know I'm in good company. :grin:
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Re: escape of the worthy from 'all these things'

Postby Spreading Salt on Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:23 am

:bounce: Let's go! :bounce:
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Re: escape of the worthy from 'all these things'

Postby Waiting4Jesus on Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:03 pm

The Rapture occurs at the beginning of Rev. at Rev. 4:1, "Come up hither." Then John says he was "immediately in the spirit." This is so obviously the Rapture because also, right after that you are shown the 24 Elders in Heaven with their crowns and white robes, representing the Raptured church. Remember it was said that we who watch and wait eagerly for the Rapture would receive crowns? And remember it is said we will wear white robes? There is no denying (that makes any sense, anyway) that this is the Rapture. In the remainder of Revelations the church is NOT MENTIONED ONCE BECAUSE IT HAS ALREADY BEEN RAPTURED!!

I am soooo ready to go POOF! MARANATHA!!! Let's roll!!! :a2: :angel:
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Re: escape of the worthy from 'all these things'

Postby Waiting4Jesus on Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:06 pm

I believe with all my heart we will be Raptured BEFORE May 14, 2011.

Israel was reborn as a nation on May 14, 1948.
Plus 70 years equals 2018
Minus 7 for the Tribulation...
...leaves May 14, 2011

MARANATHA, I am more than ready to go POOF!!!!! :angel: :a2:
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