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Keys to the End of Days!

Postby habag on Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:41 pm

Good morning from Israel,

There is much 'speculation' on how the events of the end of days will unfold. All cannot be correct, clearly. So how are we to arrive at the truth? Are there certain keys which will unlock the mysteries of the end? Yes.

Daniel and Revelation are two keys, which, when properly understood, open the door to the end of days. And in particular, there is a verse found in Rev 17 which sets the stage.

'Here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are 7 mountians on which the woman sits, and they are 7 kings; five have fallen, one is, and the other is yet to come...The beast whcih was and is not, is himself an eighth and is one of the 7..'

Many have puzzeled over these words. Here is the interpertation. This speaks of 7 kingdoms, and then a 8th which is one of the 7 revived. Have there been more than 7 knigdoms? Of course! But 7 means fulness. But an 8th means a mystery. Indeed, it is the great mystery of the little horn.

THe 'five have' fallen' were Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and a mystery. The 'and one is', was, as John wrote in its time, Rome. And the 7th is our world today, the 10 toes. Soon, though it has already come, the 8th will be clearly known to the people of God.

The 8th is one of the five which had fallen when John wrote. So no, it is not a revived Rome. Rather, it is the 'beast from the sea.' It is one who had received a 'deadly wound' but which wound has been healed in our time.

It was through this 'little horn' Satan, in the person of Herod, (a type of AC), 'bruised the heel' of Messiah. But by His resurrection He crushed his head. This was the deadly wound, spiritual at first, then physical.

Becuse of Israel's rebellion, they were given into the power of Satan, and became the 5th head. And in 70AD they received a deadly wound.

However, in 1948 thorugh the authority of a 'fleshly cyrus', the UN, that deadly wound was superficially healed, and Israel became a nation again. Israel rose from the sea of the nations.

And it is through this Israel Satan will again, through the AC, confront Christ. But first he will attempt to destroy the true Jews, the remnant who are of Christ.

I know this is a hard saying. But if you do not see it, you will not understand the role of this present Jewish State, and the role of the remnant of Israel.

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Re: Keys to the End of Days!

Postby NewlyBorninChrist on Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:10 am

Makes sense to me. The enemy loves to mock the Lord by counterfeiting his kingdom. Using the nation of Israel as a tool to bring about a power base for a new world order is something worth watching and I have seen similar theories about the Zionist movement but the true Zion will be of our Lord Yeshua, not some mockery set up by the enemy to fool the masses into damnation. We will just have to wait and see.

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Re: Keys to the End of Days!

Postby xdrifter on Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:55 am

The Author of this site had a different idea of who that scripture describes.

Which fits with Scripture in what it says about a Revived Roman Empire, a 7 year Covenent, one man indetified by the number 666, etc.

Checkout the book Recomendation 666.

And read the old commentaries from Herb Peters...
"About the time of the end, a body of men will be raised up who will turn their attention to the prophecies, and insist upon their literal interpretation, in the midst of much clamour and opposition." Sir Isaac Newton, 1642-1727

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Re: Keys to the End of Days!

Postby mark s on Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:10 am

Hi Habag,

So basically, what you are saying, is that the modern nation of Israel is one of the heads of the beast? Is that correct?

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Re: Keys to the End of Days!

Postby habag on Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:52 am

Shalom,

Yes I am saying Israel is one of the heads. Radical, I know. BUt true. There is no revived Roman Empire. It is Israel revived in 1948. This present Jewish State is not the fulfillment of the prophets concerning the in-gathering. Isa. 66 nor Ez 37 refer to Israel's rebirth.

As far as '666', this number means one thing, that the AC is Jewish. That he will claim to be the seed of David, and a 'Solomon' who will build the temple. The only other place in Scripture 666 is used is in reference to Solomon. This is not chance.

Consider this. Numbers 24 refers to a star rising in Jacob. Wehn you read prophecies concerning the Messiah, know that the false messiah will also lay claim to them. As far as the 'star', the flag of Israel has an occult symbol on it. It was never, before the 16th century, a symbol of Jews. In fact, it was know as the 'seal of Solomon' before it was called the shield of David. This is the 'star' rising in Jacob as regards the false messiah.

I am sorry, but I do not believe a thing about what some claim concerning the new world order, the EU, revived Roman Empire, and Solana as the AC.

The key word for the end of days is 'deception'. AC comes as a wolf in sheep's clothing. He comes for the purpose of destroying the remnant of Israel, and indeed, all believers who refuse his mark.

Read Isa. 28. This describes the 'covenant with death' the Jews make with AC. But when many see him in the temple, they will understand. And as Isa. 28 says, It will be shear terror to understand what it means.'


Jesus said, 'One will come in his own name, him you will receive. This is a Jew, not some Gentile. The covenant of Daniel 9 is about the tempel, not some security arragement with some Gentile messiah. The thing which begins the 70th week is the covenant to re-build the temple. And in the misth of the week the sacrifice is stopped, not some peace or security agreement.

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Re: Keys to the End of Days!

Postby mark s on Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:29 am

I'm curious, Michael, what do you see your role in the end times to be?

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Re: Keys to the End of Days!

Postby Resurrection Torchlight on Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:04 pm

I am also curious about something Micheal- are you Jewish??

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Re: Keys to the End of Days!

Postby mark s on Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:54 pm

habag wrote: Jesus said, 'One will come in his own name, him you will receive. This is a Jew, not some Gentile. The covenant of Daniel 9 is about the tempel, not some security arragement with some Gentile messiah. The thing which begins the 70th week is the covenant to re-build the temple. And in the misth of the week the sacrifice is stopped, not some peace or security agreement.

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Hi Michael,

I have another question for you, if I may . . .

How is it that one would come to the "Jews" in his own name, and him the Jews will receive, if the Jewish nation is a deception, and not really the Jews?

Doesn't that mean it would not matter who did what, since this isn't the Jewish people, or the "real Israel"?

Just to be clear, while I know that the current nation of Israel is not the fulfillment of the prophecies of the complete gathering of the children of Israel, in full restoration to their land, I do believe that it is the fulfillment of the required prerequisite to the end times prophecies, that there would in fact be a nation Israel, who would be God's chosen people, living in the land.

But not to get sidetracked on that, I'm very interested in answer to the two questions in this post, and one question in the previous post, which I have asked you.

Thank you!

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Re: Keys to the End of Days!

Postby wkc on Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:06 pm

While reading this post a thought occurred to me, one that I haven't seen yet anywhere. But believing the roots of the AC (who is an agent of the god of this world) go back to Nimrod I'm wondering, to wit:

This speaks of 7 kingdoms, and then a 8th which is one of the 7 revived. Have there been more than 7 kingdoms? Of course! But 7 means fullness. But an 8th means a mystery. Indeed, it is the great mystery of the little horn
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7 Kingdoms = Babylon (Nimrod), Egypt, Assyria, Babylon (Nebuchadnezzar), Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome (still in existence disintegrated to part iron, part clay), all of those empires are from the same regions, the 8th will be one of the 7 and still points to the peoples of those regions. Sorry habag but I just cannot think Israel is the 8th and final kingdom. Each of the 7 were based on kingdoms that worshiped other gods and while I agree that Israel is still blinded to the truth of Jesus Messiah, God has promised that they will look upon the One who was pierced and mourn....their eyes will be opened and a remnant will be saved.

Paul was clear that the Jews would be "blinded" until the fullness of the Gentiles is complete. While I realize there are many who have taken on the position of the Ashkenazim, I am reluctant to believe they are anything but on the right track. They missed the coming of the Messiah because of the hardness of their hearts and they are wrong in their view of the Jews today. You cannot be apostate if you have never accepted the truth.
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Re: Keys to the End of Days!

Postby habag on Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:53 pm

Greetings all,

I am who the Lord says I am. It would matter little for me to say now anything about this, as it would not be believed. Time will tell who I am. Within 7 years I will be going up to Jerusalem for His wonderful work. What you must not be afraid to truely believe is that He does nothing without informing His servants, the prophets. This is real. It is not theology. Many 'say' they believe God but do not really.

There is spiritual Israel and physical Israel. God calls out of Jews in the flesh, His chosen. Not all Israel is Israel. It is only those of faith who are Jews indeed. If you were here you would see what I see. I see a nation made of many tongues and peoples, all calling themselves Jews. The Indian Jews look Indian. The Russian Jews look Russian. The Jews from South America look so. And so on. Who is a Jew but one who believes Jesus is the Messiah!

Look to the 'political' head which controls Israel. In this leadership is the spirit of anti-christ. And one is coming, indeed, who is here and leading this government, who will personify this spirit. He fulfills the prophecies, it 'appears'. And there are those who say they are Jews, but are of the synagogue of Satan. These will hate those who turn to God by faith in Yeshua. These are the end of days remnant, the house of Israel.

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Re: Keys to the End of Days!

Postby mark s on Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:34 pm

Hi Michael,

I think I may know who - or what - you believe yourself to be. You are not the first, and yes, time will reveal all things.

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Re: Keys to the End of Days!

Postby mark s on Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:25 pm

Jesus spoke to the Jews (unless you say that those He spoke to were not Jews, but I believe the Bible says they were), saying, "him you will receive."

If indeed the Israelis are not Jews, then whether or not they did or did not receive anyone would have no relevance to what Jesus said, since this would be a totally different people.

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Re: Keys to the End of Days!

Postby 1whowaits on Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:57 pm

habag, you appear to suggest that you could be 1 of the 2 witnesses, what do you base this belief upon? (if i am understanding what you are hinting at correctly, i apologize if i have understood incorrectly)
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Re: Keys to the End of Days!

Postby habag on Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:47 am

Hi,

I suggest nothing. The Two are two people, but also two groups. But the one is named Michael ,and the other Gabriel. And they will be known in their time. Why speculate? All that matters is authority. When you see two with authority, listen to all they say. 'They that fear You wil be glad when they see me.' Psal 119.

Moses is dead. Elijah is with Moses. Enoch is with the Lord, for He took him.

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Re: Keys to the End of Days!

Postby wkc on Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:09 am

There is spiritual Israel and physical Israel. God calls out of Jews in the flesh, His chosen. Not all Israel is Israel. It is only those of faith who are Jews indeed.
(habag)

There is no disagreement nor unbelief in this statement, God's word is clear and it is as you say...and as John stated clearly "

18 Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the[c] Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.

and again,

22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. 23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

John tells us that the spirit of the antichrist is related to the denial of Jesus, and physical Israel along with physical Jews, meet that criteria ...this spirit has been around since the beginning of time, even before Jesus was made manifest in the flesh. That the "Antichrist" may arise out of Israel and call himself the Jewish messiah, showing great signs and wonders so that the world follows after him is a possibility. We must wait and see. But somehow, in spite of the expression of his desire to build a temple, BN just does not fit the bill, I know that he is not a believer because he has not declared that Jesus is the Christ. No argument there.

Habag, my thoughts on the kingdoms of this world were not meant to offend, but to question the perspective. If God has called you to be a witness for Christ in Jerusalem in a great way, then we will all know it. The Spirit of God is alive in those of us who believe, we are His children, the sheep of His pasture and Christ is glorified. Those of us on this board have already believed God and accepted Christ. We know who He is and we know who we are in Him. We know that we are children of the promise and Abraham's seed.

There is no mystery that will not be revealed.

Blessings,

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Re: Keys to the End of Days!

Postby Douggg on Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:03 am

habag wrote: THe 'five have' fallen' were Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and a mystery. The 'and one is', was, as John wrote in its time, Rome. And the 7th is our world today, the 10 toes. Soon, though it has already come, the 8th will be clearly known to the people of God.

The 8th is one of the five which had fallen when John wrote. So no, it is not a revived Rome. Rather, it is the 'beast from the sea.' It is one who had received a 'deadly wound' but which wound has been healed in our time.


It says 7 KINGS in Revelation 17:9-10. Even if you interpret the seven mountains as seven empires, there are still seven kings to be identified. Who are those 7 kings? And it seems to me that the seven empire theory conflicts with Daniel 2 of only four empires. The statue in Nebuchadnezzar's dream, the head was Nebuchadnezzar's Babylonian empire - so why do you start off with Assyria?

9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.


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Re: Keys to the End of Days!

Postby dolfseal on Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:35 pm

I could very well agree with you habag. As soon as I read your post it made sense. So far, nothing has made sense with the one with a mortal wound but comes back. Israel does fit this scenario. I also take Israel to be referred to as "Sodom and Egypt". The power of this world (elite) are Jewish and they do control the seven mountains of the world because they control the money of the world, this is easily tracked by the money trail. Please don't get me wrong, I am not implying the Jewish people are bad, just a very select few who pull the strings of the world.
I also wondered who was at the confirming of the covenant that was read last year. I believe the final AC was at the reading, were there heads of state at the ceremony?
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Re: Keys to the End of Days!

Postby shorttribber on Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:53 pm

:snack: sounds very interesting---welcome Habag
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Re: Keys to the End of Days!

Postby xdrifter on Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:03 pm

Hi,

I did see a lot of problems with your idea of what Gods Prophecy could amount to.

Jew and Gentile are two very different things, and all who are saved are not Jew. Saul became Paul, and was not received by the Jews, or Jewish Christians, as a result was used as a tool, by God to bring the Gospel to the gentiles. This was prophesied in Isaiah, meaning Gods plan all along was to save Jew, and Gentile.

Now, this does not mean Gentile Children of God are not under Gods promise, just as Israel is.... In Romans it does say, All things work for the good of Gods people. The Bible is however very clear on the fact that the Jewish (race) was Gods first chosen, while we, the Gentile made clean by the blood of Jesus, are the second chosen *grafted in as Paul says*... (see Romans)

Israel does not play the role you described. She is the woman who is kept protected, do not fool yourself all of the Scriptures proclaim it, Israel, and the Jews are Gods first chosen people, and always have been, even when they did not acknowledge their God, or His Son.


This Website was founded on some ideas, you should check them out, because it doesn't take a whole lot of trust, and faith to believe them, it may surprise you how little those who have been, and are following these events have to try to make Scripture fit.

Herb used to describe Prophecy as a Puzzle, and in his book he talks about road signs.... Your interpretation is not only void of road signs, but it shakes the very fundamental teachings of the Bible (and you haven't even said that much yet!).

Check out Herbs book, read the relevant news people are posting, and you may understand why your getting these sorts of responses.
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Re: Keys to the End of Days!

Postby 4givenmuch on Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:01 pm

habag wrote:Hi,

I suggest nothing. The Two are two people, but also two groups. But the one is named Michael ,and the other Gabriel. And they will be known in their time. Why speculate? All that matters is authority. When you see two with authority, listen to all they say. 'They that fear You wil be glad when they see me.' Psal 119.

Moses is dead. Elijah is with Moses. Enoch is with the Lord, for He took him.

habag


Hello Habag and welcome. While I think your theory interesting and definitely out of a passionate heart, I would have to disagree with you on one point: Moses and Elijah are NOT dead, they were with Jesus on the Mount of Transfiguration.

Do you think Bibi is the AC?

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Re: Keys to the End of Days!

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