Passion wrote:So it would seem that, after Jesus came along, Mary had at least seven more children. Some "virgin"!
A warning needs to be spoken here. You all need to be very careful about what & how you speak about Mother Mary, and how you judge her worth in Heaven and on Earth. PLEASE seek the answer to this in prayer. Now, Im not a catholic, I am not a follower of the Pope, but I have respect for the Chosen Mother of GOD on earth...
I CHALLENGE YOU ALL TO READ WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN BELOW.
First off, Out of all the women from the beginning of time to the end, GOD ALMIGHTY choose one woman, Mary - to be the physical mother of his only begotten Son Jesus Christ.
"And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women." Luke 1:28
She was a virgin. She was proclaimed Holy & Blessed by God through the very act of being chosen to carry Jesus Christ. Now she conceived by the Holy Spirit. Ever felt the Holy Spirit illuminate your body? Now image that experience being so much more intense, that you actually become pregnant with God's own Son, the savior and King of Heaven.
NOW, do you really believe that after she gave birth to the SON of GOD, it went down like this, "now that Ive become pregnant by the HOLY SPIRIT, and gave birth to GOD'S OWN SON, let's see what it's like to have sex with a man, and have some regular kids?" - That is Blasphemy against her, against her son the Lord Jesus Christ, against God!
You are using the scriptures: Matthew 13:55-56 as your proof that Jesus had brothers, meaning Joseph and Mary started having sex and having pure human kids.
HOWEVER, that is error in use of scripture! Newer translations use the term "brothers". The Authoritative King James version which is more accurate scripture uses the word "brethren", not brothers. Now reguardless of the use of the word "brethren" or "brothers" or "sisters", all of these terms have to do with how they associated with each-other in those times. An example would be, think of your best friend. If you were living in the times of Jesus, you would refer to your best friend as your brother or sister... Is this really so un-common even in our day and age? I had a real close friend that I called my brother, but he wasnt my litteral brother.
Hebrews 3:12 says this in King James Version:
"Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God."
Now in New International Version:
"See to it, brothers and sisters, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God."
Now, if we looked at the this scripture, and the use of the words "brethren", "brothers" or "sisters" in the same way (that many of you are attempting to prove that the Holy Virgin Mary started having sex after she gave birth to Jesus Christ the Son of God, and had more children) - then do you also claim that Paul was preaching to a group of his brothers and sisters; the children of his parents - in this scripture of Hebrews? Of course not.
Now lets look at Matthew 1:25 which reads in the authoritative King James version: Joseph took Mary to be his wife "and knew her not until she had brought forth her firstborn Son. And he called His name JESUS." Now some newer translations have boldly changed this into a statement that Joseph and Mary didnt have sex until after Jesus was born. However, most of the translations Im checking on Biblegateway STILL use the scripture that Joseph "knew her not". Let's go even older and closer to the original scripture... the Greek Interlinear says Joseph "knew not her". This can simply mean, he didnt know much about her, he didnt really know who she was, they were strangers... Anything. These ancient scripture are clearly different than new translations which say (they didnt have sex until after Jesus.)
Obviously these new translations were done by those who hold the same viewpoint as many of you do, about Holy Mother Mary being "hardly a virgin". - which is also blasphemy.
If you dont agree, what about the story of Moses. The King James verison says: "Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph." -Exodus 1:8
So the new Egypt king "knew not Joseph". Obviously this doesnt mean the same thing as "knew her not", right... only if you are interpreting it as being about sex. Otherwise, if you interperate it as meaning - lack of knowledge about the other person, who they are, what they are like.. etc, it can mean the same exact thing in both scriptures.
However as opposed to them translating it in a sexual way, (as they did about Mary and Joseph) - most new translations kept it as, the new king "did not know Joseph".
NOW I CHALLENGE YOU WITH A QUESTION:
If Jesus Christ literally had brothers and/or sisters, who were not just his "close friends", but Mary and Joseph's children created by sex, then WHY (when He was about to die on the cross) did He worry about His Mother Mary being left alone? WHY did He worry about who was going to take care of Her? WHY did he then CHARGE John, to take the role of being Mary's care-taker, her step-in son on earth, who then took her to his own home to take care of her?????????
"When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home." - John 19:26-27
Now going over this, Mary was chosen among all women, and ordained by God to be blessed among women - by being the one woman to conceive the Son of God, by the Holy Spirit, and to be in authority over Him as a child, as his mother. TECHNICALLY - The ordained Mother of God on earth. The Bible calls her a VIRGIN. In Revelation 12, Mary was CROWNED with 12 stars.
HOW CAN ANYONE (ESPECIALLY CHRISTIANS) DARE CAST JUDGEMENT ON HER, and sarcastically snicker and mock and complain about someone proclaiming that she is in Heaven sitting at the right hand of God? The most HOLY and IMPORTANT woman that ever walked the earth, chosen by GOD ALMIGHTY to impregnate with His HOLY SON JESUS CHRIST >
HOW CAN ANYONE (ESPECIALLY CHRISTIANS) DARE CAST JUDGEMENT ON HER WORTH AND PLACE IN HEAVEN?
HOW CAN ANYONE (ESPECIALLY CHRISTIANS) DARE CAST JUDGEMENT ON HER WORTH AND PLACE HERE ON EARTH?