7-Year Deal with Israel: ENI 2014-2020

[eschologizer]

2014-2020 European Neighborhood Instrument

The new 7-year external program is just called the "European Neighborhood Instrument." It allocates significantly more money than the ENPI to the same partners (which includes Israel), at 18 Billion EUR for the period 2014-2020.

http://ec.europa.eu/europeaid/how/finance/documents/prop_eu_neighbourhood_instrument_reg_en.pdf

http://www.eplo.org/assets/files/2.%20Activities/CSDN/Funding%20Instruments%20Meetings/Instrument%20for%20Stability%20Annual%20Action%20Programme%202012%20Strategy%20Paper%202012-2013%20and%20Multiannual%20Indicative%20Programme%202012-2013/FPI_Presentation_Multiannual_Financial_Framework_2014-2020_Heading_4.pdf

http://ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/fule/headlines/news/2011/06/20110630_1_en.htm

I know people already knew about some of this stuff but I want to fit it in with some new thoughts I have been having.

The first seven year external fiscal instrument for Europe was called the European Neighborhood and Partnership Instrument. (ENPI). That, and the 10 nation WEU, was the basis of Herb Peter's "ENPI Theory," with Javier Solana tying it all together.

I was a very big advocate of the ENPI theory. I made some youtube videos about it which got a decent number of views. I also waited 3 years for the abomination of desolation. Since the collapse of ENPI theory, I basically gave up on prophecy for 2 years or so, because I was very dismayed by the outcome and all the emotional investment associated with it.

My Current Thoughts

However, I return with a cautious and conservative prophetic outlook. My current thoughts are this:

1) EU = Revived Roman Empire is the only game in town. Israel has returned to the land. The fourth kingdom is the Revived Roman Empire. Since it is prophetic end game due to Israel's return, the EU is the only game in town for the RRE.

2) The 10-nation Western European Union dissolved in favor of the greater EU. According to Holly's analysis, this itself could be very significant. The WEU was 10-nation alliance for 15 years. However, they renounced themselves in favor of the EU-beast-empire. Seeing as how such a persistent 10 nation alliance thought the EU was better than itself, I would consider the WEU to be the only game in town for an EU based 10 nation alliance.

http://www.fulfilledprophecy.com/commentary/weu-announcement-10-nation-alliance-to-dissolve/
http://www.fulfilledprophecy.com/commentary/10-kings-1-hour/

3) Javier Solana may or may not be the Antichrist, we don't know. But he did a lot of hard work creating the position that could very easily be the office of the Antichrist. As head of "Common Foreign and Security Policy" he did a lot to integrate the purposes of the 10 nation alliance.

4) 7-Year Deals with Israel. The EU is the only game in town for a RRE, since Israel is back in the land. Given that it has mechanisms by which it makes 7-year deals with Israel every...well...7 years.... is very intriguing (if I may be guilty of a gross understatement). So there are several games in town for the 7-year covenant. We got the ENPI, but the midpoint is past, so I personally disagree with that one. We also have the ENI, which I am currently interested in at the moment as of like two days ago.

5) Treaty of Lisbon. Treaty of Lisbon streamlined European governmental organization so that the High Representative an Common Foreign Policy had a lot of power. The Treaty of Lisbon also has a lot of empire-like features, so many so that I wrote a college paper on it for my composition class in late 2009. This has prophetic significance.

6) European sovereign debt crisis. Many commentators in the past few days have noted that what Europe needs to do in order to save the Euro is closer integration. However, at least one UK commentator is already realizing that what the EU promised the world it would do a few hours ago is going to intrude on the national sovereignty of the UK if they give in too much. Long story short, the Eurozone WILL collapse unless it has more political unity. Leading economists believe the EU has an extremely short window to get its act together (were talking like 3 months). So it either gets stronger by unifying itself under central leadership, or fizzles out of existence.

The European Neighborhood Theory.

We have:

1) An Israel back in the land
2) A RRE that simultaneously has strong imperial powers and difficulty holding itself together
3) A ten nation alliance that decided the EU-beast was cooler than itself, so it dissolved.
4) A eurozone debt crisis which demands closer unification really fast.
5) A seven year covenant that is going to start with Israel in 2014.

What a great time for the Antichrist to show up and take over?

[I say this rather conservatively and not with a lot of ambition. If I have to choose between "possible" "plausible" and "probable" I say the ENI 70th week is "plausible."

(I view that an adherent to the European Neighborhood Theory is any person, past, present or future, who sees very possible significance in the EU, WEU, and 7 year cyclical deals with Israel. This is sort of a "unity in diversity" on the 7 year covenant/EU issue.)

I realize people already knew about a lot of this stuff and had been posting about it. But that is the "system" by which I harmonize all the details in my own head.

I can't believe I'm posting here again. Welp I'm glad to be back I think.

May the Lord Jesus return from heaven in glory.

[burien1]

Welcome back Eschologizer ! I for one, an glad to read your thoughts. Thank you for your input.

[GodsStudent]

Hi Eschologizer, glad to see you posting on the board. I am not strongest in this area of prophecy, but I had a few questions that came to mind.
First, the agreement you linked has the symbol with the 12 starts (circle symbol). Does it matter that the alliance of these nations is presently more than 10 countries with respect to the covenant?
Second, Daniel 9:27 says HE will confirm a covenant with many for a period of seven. Who is the "HE" in this ENI?

My questions may not be relevant, but just sort of popped out as I was reading your post. Certainly any seven year agreement with many, including Israel, and in particular, the revived Roman Empire, gets my attention!

[eschologizer]

Great to hear from you Burien. I am glad to be back and thanks for taking the time to look at some of this stuff.

Yes it is great to be back Godstudent. Great to hear from you Godstudent.

These questions that you ask are very relevant and very good questions.

The 10 nation Western European Union remained at 10 nations until its death in 2011. It was actually deemed a separate organization from the European union, even though it worked closely with it. Their flag has the letters "WEO" and it is ten stars. From 1995-2010, it had ten members. Those ten members dissolved because the EU was strong enough, so in a sense they gave their power and authority to the EU-beast. The 10 nation organization does not exist anymore as a result.

It is interesting that no associate countries, but only the Ten Nations, where the ones to issue a statement saying they were dissolving the treaty.

http://www.weu.int/Declaration_E.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_European_Union

As far as the "he" who has or will confirm the covenant in 2014, I am in a state of deliberate agnosticism about his identity. Basically, since a large governmental body is going to do this/has already chosen to do this, that means someone is in charge of it and there are many candidates for the "he." For those interested, it could even be Javier Solana. The idea is that this theory can work without knowing the specific person yet, though if the 2014 cycle is the one, his identity may become more clear to us as we go along, though he will not be officially revealed until somewhere around the midpoint. (Daniel 9:27; 2 Thess 2:4)

I find the 2014 idea to be somewhat plausible. Though I deliberately withhold my certainty of it.

However, I think the most important part of the European Neighborhood Theory is that the EU fulfills so many characteristics of the end times government it is difficult to dismiss it. Given that information, this EU habitually makes 7 year deals with Israel and its neighbors, and doesn't seem to want to stop any time soon. So whether it be the ENPI, the ENI, or a future 7 year deal, we have our Beast and its only a matter of time until one of these 7-year covenants is it....

[kirthril]

I thought at the beginning, back when the site first got started, it was stated that the ENPI would be renewed in 5 year periods, which is why the 1st 7 year period got our attention.

Is this deal a completely new and revamped document/treaty with a similar name, or the same exact treaty as the ENPI minus the P and they decided to just keep renewing in 7-yr periods?

reason i ask, is cause could this be a "strengthening of a existing covenant?"

[eschologizer]

As far as I can tell, they are just cyclically renewing it. However, they do seem to change it every time since the new instrument is more streamlined and has more funding, and the Council did have to draft the proposal and approve it.

Its the same idea though, with all of the partners we care about (aka Israel) are staying the same. I think other countries associate participation with it may not happen any more (If i remember right perhaps China?), but as far as we are concerned its the same partners, with EuroEast and EuroMed staying in.

It's essentially a repeat of the last one on a new budgetary cycle, for seven years of course. The first ENPI confirmed the ENP for seven years. This one is basically reconfirming the last seven year deal again. (But of course they had to approve the proposal and they changed it some.)

I always thought that the new budgetary cycles would be seven years, but many people have pointed out to me that the renewal periods used to be a different time length, such as 5 years as you suggest.

I was having trouble with the search feature but I was wondering if you knew of a post that said that? I would be very interested to see it. (if its too much trouble don't worry about it).

I guess when I was an ENPI advocate I figured it would be silly that we would have to see more than one 7 year covenant, because that seemed weird to me. Perhaps this is what we are seeing, and we just don't know which of these 7 year cycles is going to be "it."

[James1:12]

Hi eschologizer I just searched for "FP8" on the forums/fora (?)
Here's the links:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=60280&p=517745&hilit=FP8#p517745

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=60023&p=515234&hilit=FP8#p515234

viewtopic.php?f=70&t=59293&p=510128&hilit=FP8#p510128

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=57343&p=494387&hilit=FP8#p494387

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=57006&p=491810&hilit=FP8#p491810

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=55571&p=481334&hilit=FP8#p481334

Seems like I've been irritating people with this upcoming cycle for a while :o

[James1:12]

The last one will make you laugh, someone called James told someone called eschologizer this on April 21 2010:

Good post eschologizer interesting thoughts.
Just on the duration of the ENP. As EU plans are based on their budgetary cycles, so far they have been 7 years (Framework Program 7 being this one which the ENP is based on) the next was posited to be 5 years just like our Soviet friends used to do.

( I have heard that the subsequent ENPI periods are 5 years? Is this true?)


This information states that FP8 will also be 7 years running form 2014-2020.

http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100317/ ... 4349a.html

Other priorities for FP8, which is expected to run from 2014 until 2020, include support for infrastructure projects and for the expansion of the ERC — currently the star in the framework firmament.


So we could be in for a long wait, but as you say there is plenty of evidence to sugest we won't.

[Exit40]

I remember you guys talking about that, as the only seven year period for this was supposedly the first one, the rest being 5 years, garnering much attention.

God Bless You

David

[James1:12]

I remember you guys talking about that, as the only seven year period for this was supposedly the first one, the rest being 5 years, garnering much attention.

God Bless You

David

Very true David! I guess that unique selling point has gone by the wayside. Our straw clutching stubborn-ness knows no bounds! ;)

[eschologizer]

Well that's very interesting. I for some reason always thought that the next budgetary cycle would be for 7 years. I think it is because of your research because whenever I thought back about it I remembered stuff you had said with respect to it.....which is a very valuable find indeed!! You have been quite on top of this and that has been very good!

So was it Herb that said that the subsequent periods were to be 5 years? I remember thinking it would be seven, but lots of people told me that it was originally 5? If it was Herb I wonder how he came to that conclusion? (He was a very in depth researcher so he must have had very good reason). Then they switched it to seven a couple years ago? I was just wondering if there was any EU documentation that it was previously 5 years, but then became 7, instead of being 7 all along?

Thanks for providing the links btw, because the search function wasn't working so great for me.

I must admit my skepticism is much higher now with this 7 year covenant. I believe that the European Neighborhood Policy seems like how they will get this 7 year deal done. But once we have allowed for the possibility of two 7 year covenants, then how many do we have to wait for to the final one? Granted one can argue that the WEU ten kings transferred power to the beast, and that consolidation of the Lisbon treaty and Eurozone and CFSP/CSDP stuff gives a good argument that it will be soon.

But of course, the traditional interpretation is that the Antichrist will desecrate the temple. Granted if FP8 is it, thats 5 years away, and a lot can happen in 5 years. Granted, the some church fathers believed Antichrist would build the temple himself to function as a false Messiah, and that could happen quickly.

But that's what some of us said the last time Also the WEU/JS/ENPI2007 theory had a lot of really good evidence at the time, which has since (in my mind) diminished very significantly, at least for the 2007 version.

We also lack a central figure by which we can tie the EU institutions (and ex-WEU institutions) together with this new 7 year covenant. Granted he could have been there all along (i.e. Barrosso has been behind everything from the start), but the fact is that there is no clear unifying leader and the High Rep is a woman, so she's not it.

Bible seems to say that the Antichrist has a rather pompous character who is full of himself, fights a lot of wars, and all the rest. He "subdues" three kings causing the horns to be "uprooted." So he is quite the authoritarian guy. Granted, at least one translation says that "the king will do as he pleases." Also, it seems that once the end time events launch that he might rise to power somewhat suddenly, as he has to uproot three to do it.

So for me, if its going to be 2014, we need a sudden accession of a very powerful political figure. If we don't, then we have less evidence than ENPI2007, which in my personal opinion I don't think ended up working out in the end as far as the theory is concerned, and much to my dismay.

I just wish things were clearer. But thanks be to God that there are general trends that we can observe.

[Exit40]

Hi gang. There was a thread going on this topic and I asked something like, how can we know this seven year period is the one if they continue on in seven year periods. Herb jumped in and stated the next ones would be five year periods. I don't recall if he provided documentation, but Herb would not have stated so without having evidence. That's the way Herb was, always had proof, and not much speculation. I don't know if he was still with us when they all changed to seven years, likely not or he would have commented on that. Not that he didn't, I just don't recall seeing it.

God Bless You

David