An encouraging thought

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An encouraging thought

Postby eschologizer on Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:08 pm

I was browsing the web and I saw on the prewrath ministries website the thoughts of one teacher on the 70th week, imminency, and the abomination of desolation. I am not trying to link to other websites for sake of doing so, I just would like to quote this avid student of prophecy who is not, as far as I know, linked with the ENPI theory.

Could Jesus come now?

I also believe the answer is yes. Even though there are events that must come first, I believe these events could fall into place very quickly - maybe without notice. It is interesting that Jesus told us...

Matt 24:15 (NIV) So when you see standing in the holy place `the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Daniel--let the reader understand...

What Jesus said to look for was the Abomination of Desolation. That does not happen until the mid-point of the 70th Week - 3½ years into the tribulation period. Is it possible that we may not know what is happening until we are already at the mid-point?

-Dr. Elbert D. Charpie (i think thats the author)

This is after a reasonably lengthy discussion of events that precede the AOD and the second coming. I find it interesting that the author does believe events precede the AOD but also takes the above view.

Here is a more elaborated FAQ question answered by the same person.

If the 70th week of Daniel began would I know it?

The Bible states in Daniel that the Antichrist will make a covenant of peace for 7 years with Israel and "the many."

Daniel 9:27 (NIV) He will confirm a covenant with many for one ´seven.' In the middle of the ´seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing [of the temple] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."

In the middle of the seven years the Antichrist wil set up what scripture calls the "Abomination of Desolation."

2 Thessalonians 2 describes this in more detail...

2 Thess 2:3 (NIV) Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

It goes on to say...

2 Thess 2:9 (NIV) The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, 10 and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

Now, as we look for the coming of the 70th Week, we know a covenant will be signed. However, there is evidence that this may not be common knowledge. In Matthew 24 Jesus told His disciples...

Matt 24:9 (NIV) "Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 2 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 4 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. 5 "So when you see standing in the holy place ´the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Daniel--let the reader understand-- 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.

Jesus tells His disciples that "then" there will be persecution and many will turn away from the faith and betray each other. As He is describing this He then says to His disciples "So, when you see..." Therefore, He is telling them what to look for to know that these things are coming to pass. But, He does not say, "So, when you see the covenant signed..." What He does tell them to look for IS the Abomination of Desolation. I believe this is evidence that we could be in the 70th Week of Daniel and not realize it until the Abomination of Desolation takes place.

-Dr. Elbert D. Charpie

I also found this response to be interesting. And very encouraging in light of the ENPI.

I am not linking to this to promote that website, but more of quoting its author like I would quote from a book to support our theory.
"for they themselves report what kind of reception you gave us. They tell how you turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God, and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead—Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath." 1 Thessalonians 1:9-10
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Re: An encouraging thought

Postby Wickus on Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:19 pm

I know that Herb did link to this site under the heading "The pre wrath view". If you go to the old site, you will find it.
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