April 13th: Vaccine antibodies CAUSE blood clots in the brai

[st louis steve]

April 13th: Vaccine antibodies CAUSE blood clots in the brain, lungs and heart… FDA calls halt to J&J vaccine as deaths accelerate – NaturalNews.com https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-04-13- ... heart.html

[Jericho]

That's why it's always best to wait with any new vaccine IMO. And then there's this:

The South Africa variant of the coronavirus might evade the Pfizer vaccine, according to a new study from Tel Aviv University and Israel’s largest healthcare provider.

"We found a disproportionately higher rate of the South African variant among people vaccinated with a second dose, compared to the unvaccinated group," said Adi Stern of Tel Aviv University. "This means that the South African variant is able, to some extent, to break through the vaccine’s protection."

Not only could the variant “break through” protections offered by the Pfizer vaccine, but it uniquely affects those who have been vaccinated (around eight times higher) than those who have not received the vaccine — 5.4% to 0.7%.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... vaccinated

[Abiding in His Word]

hmm... It's my understanding that the 6 individuals who have gotten blood clots from the J&J vaccine were women in the 18-48 age group and that there was a possible connection to hormones in that age group. That's 6 out of 6.8 million. I personally think it's a stretch to say that all vaccines cause blood clots.

Just a few thoughts about vaccines from the past...

In 1962 I went to Texas as a lay missionary to teach school in a Mexico migrant camp. I was required to receive 3 oral polio vaccines over a period of 3 months.

In 1969, one of my sons was not allowed to go to kindergarten without proof that he had been immunized for measles, mumps, and rubella. The same for my other son in 1974.

Those were mandatory vaccinations, but I saw them as safeguards against those illnesses. Years later I was working at Xerox and mentioned that in hindsight, I thought those mandates shouldn't have been required. One of the managers heard me say that and came into my office limping and walking with a cane. He said that he used to think the mandate to get a polio shot was an imposition on his freedom of choice so he didn't get one. And he said, "I'll pay for that decision for the rest of my life." He got polio.

So...since I am pretty much home-bound, I had decided that the trip to a designated location to receive the vaccine and wait in the heat of Florida, I had opted to not get the vaccine. But a very thoughtful neighbor knew of an organization called "BrightStar" that serves SW Florida and provides the vaccine to home-bound seniors in their home!

In conclusion...My boys didn't get measles, rubella, or mumps and I didn't get polio. I'm going to trust the vaccine being offered as protection for the covid virus.

[Abiding in His Word]

P.S. As I worked for a shelter for abused persons for 10 yrs., a flu shot was required for all personnel. I've gotten a flu shot for @30 yrs. and not gotten the flu once.

[Jericho]

It's my understanding that the 6 individuals who have gotten blood clots from the J&J vaccine were women in the 18-48 age group and that there was a possible connection to hormones in that age group.

Assuming this information is reliable it seems to be more than 6 and not just from the J&J vaccine either: https://vaccineguide.sfo2.digitaloceans ... VopcNQNuUA

He said that he used to think the mandate to get a polio shot was an imposition on his freedom of choice so he didn't get one.

How did he not get one if it was mandatory?

P.S. As I worked for a shelter for abused persons for 10 yrs., a flu shot was required for all personnel. I've gotten a flu shot for @30 yrs. and not gotten the flu once.

I don't think I've ever gotten a flu shot and rarely get sick. Some people have had good experiences with it, but I've heard of others getting sick afterwards. Everyone is different. According to the CDC the flu shot is between 40% to 60% effective, so it's not a 100% guarantee you won't catch the flu.

I'm not against vaccines in general, but I don't think they are all created equal either. Some may be better than others. The polio vaccine is an example of a good one. My main concerns about the Covid vaccine is the speed it was developed and the long-term unknown consequences of using experimental RNA technology. J&J doesn't use RNA but it seems to have its own problems. Nothing is ever 100% risk free. There is also the ethical issue of using vaccines where aborted fetal tissue was used in the production, development, or testing.

My concerns are not just physical. Vaccine passports are a slippery slope. The Powers That Be literally don't want anyone to buy, sell, or trade without proof of vaccination. We're not there YET, but that is what they want. We have been in a mad dash to exchange freedom for a little security and that never ends well.

[Abiding in His Word]

How did he not get one if it was mandatory?

Jericho, the gentleman who got polio as the result of refusing the polio vaccine was in his early-mid forties. It was mandatory only for children entering the school system, but no evidence it was mandatory for others. The mandate was given by the N.Y. school board.

Just a little research on the Digital Ocean leads me to question it's credibility since it appears to be a "cloud" storage for images, documents, web sites, etc. rather than one with medical credentials. Given that, I'm wondering how/where that information was gathered as there doesn't appear to be any link to verify they were given permission to post those adverse effects.

Of further interest is the number of vaccinations given in the U.S. is approx. 66,203,123. Given the possibility of adverse reactions, the benefits seems to out-weigh the risks since (if I'm not mistaken) those risks do not include deaths.

I do agree with you that everyone is different hence the different reactions to any medical procedure. Another example of this is a prescription for antibiotics given me by my primary health care physician made me so sick, I had to discontinue taking it.

[GodsStudent]

Abiding Said:

Just a little research on the Digital Ocean leads me to question it's credibility since it appears to be a "cloud" storage for images, documents, web sites, etc. rather than one with medical credentials. Given that, I'm wondering how/where that information was gathered as there doesn't appear to be any link to verify they were given permission to post those adverse effects.

And the OP was an article from Natural News. While I have read from their site on several occasions, I am under no illusions that they can be a little hyper about their conclusions, and just as some stretch to make their point , it is my opinion, after experience with their site, that Natural News stretches the opposite direction to make their points, so I take their stuff with a large grain of salt sometimes. I listen, but with caution.

IWe all have said we will do this or that where the vaccines are concerned. I just had hip surgery, so was waiting a bit, but want the J&J shot. I am also worried about the MRNA technology and want to see more time pass before I personally take anything with that in it. My family used the Moderna and Phizer shots, so to each his own is how I feel about theese vaccines. I have heard accusations to those who don't want the shot that they are putting children at risk and it bothers me , because in a sense, to me, that is bullying. I honestly believe each person should choose what they think is best, and should get educated as much as possible when making their choice.

[Jericho]

I have heard accusations to those who don't want the shot that they are putting children at risk and it bothers me , because in a sense, to me, that is bullying. I have heard accusations to those who don't want the shot that they are putting children at risk and it bothers me , because in a sense, to me, that is bullying. I honestly believe each person should choose what they think is best, and should get educated as much as possible when making their choice.

Children are the least susceptible to Covid in terms of death. I remember when parents would have pox parties to intentionally expose their children to chicken pox and measles. I can only imagine what they would say about them now. I agree that it should be an individual choice and I dislike peer pressure rather it's for or against it.

[Sonbeam]

Jericho said:

My concerns are not just physical. Vaccine passports are a slippery slope. The Powers That Be literally don't want anyone to buy, sell, or trade without proof of vaccination. We're not there YET, but that is what they want. We have been in a mad dash to exchange freedom for a little security and that never ends well.

This is a concern of mine too Jericho.

[Sonbeam]

GS said:

I honestly believe each person should choose what they think is best, and should get educated as much as possible when making their choice.

Agree GS.

I found some useful information given by Dr. Ryan Cole, an expert in immunology and virology, on treatments available to combat the Covid virus and the importance of Vit D3 in relation to our immune system here:

https://rumble.com/vfhysl-covid-19-mrna ... x&mc=8wf7a

[GodsStudent]

Last night on NBC news they announced that we will now need yearly boosters.
Later in the news they excitedly said these boosters could/would include inoculations for the flu too.
Wonder what else they are gonna want to put in their boosters? hmn????

Here's the rub. I know Abiding said she gets the flu shot, and that's her business.
I dont and NEVER WOULD. Why? It is well documented that this increases instances of alzheimers and dimentia, and my dads side grandma died from/with Alzheimers and my grandfather, dimentia...both had bad cases of it....and my mom, on the other side of the family is really having memory issues now...serious ones....
and the flu shot isn't really hitting it's mark. Literally every year we hear about it's failings....
and, fwiw, I haven't gotten the flu that often...twice in the past 30 years....so I don't need a yearly shot, imo.

So, to each his own, is how it is now.

But, in future, especially if passports and proofs to move around and function are tied to these covid shots and their boosters...they could FORCE things on us and our bodies that we don't agree with, want, or even think is ok....THAT IS GOING TOO FAR.....

Wonder if this is all going this way to train us to accept the mark, too...as in, we are acclimated to accepting these things are just the way it is....Im not having it. I'll say that now. Guess I will be in those detainment facilities that the government has built, because at some point, they will be needed for those who refuse the shots with all the "extras" and whatever else.....the writing is on the wall now....lets see what unfolds....

[ToledoDebbie]

Lisa, I agree with your thoughts on "conditioning" us to accept even more destructive rules and demands in the future. In addition to the vaccines I have felt that about the mask's from day one. All of the Dr.s (including the great Dr. Fauci), the CDC and even the World Health Organization were all clear in the beginning of the Pandemic that masks really can not protect you from this virus. If they did, why did so many of our Drs., nurses and other 1st responders that were masked and in full PPE suits, end up infected!! It is airborne and if you are in close proximity to anyone with the virus and are susceptible, you will be exposed mask or no mask. At some point they decided they had to do something so people wouldn't panic and soon it became more a "Virtue Signal" than an effective safeguard against infection. Now it is just another form of control and conditioning!! If these vaccines work as well as they keep saying they do, why do I still have to wear a mask? If the vaccines don't work, then why are we getting them? I have never been particularly militant, but, I am just about at the end of my patience with all of this!!

[GodsStudent]

Lisa, I agree with your thoughts on "conditioning" us to accept even more destructive rules and demands in the future. In addition to the vaccines I have felt that about the mask's from day one. All of the Dr.s (including the great Dr. Fauci), the CDC and even the World Health Organization were all clear in the beginning of the Pandemic that masks really can not protect you from this virus. If they did, why did so many of our Drs., nurses and other 1st responders that were masked and in full PPE suits, end up infected!! It is airborne and if you are in close proximity to anyone with the virus and are susceptible, you will be exposed mask or no mask. At some point they decided they had to do something so people wouldn't panic and soon it became more a "Virtue Signal" than an effective safeguard against infection. Now it is just another form of control and conditioning!! If these vaccines work as well as they keep saying they do, why do I still have to wear a mask? If the vaccines don't work, then why are we getting them? I have never been particularly militant, but, I am just about at the end of my patience with all of this!!

A little wearing the saints out happening? I completely agree.
I have never been one to have others think for me, and it's not so pleasing now.
The great things that made Americans great included the Constitutional rights we were afforded at birth, and at the conception of this great nation. Now, present and recent past leadership likes to believe it's their right to rearrange the entire structure of this nation...and what's worse is, they are being allowed to do it. I keep thinking that the Lord is allowing it for the purposes of letting satan's reign here on earth come to fruition, and there really isn't going to be a tea party of sorts this time...just unlawful demonstrations that are more about looting and bad behavior than demanding and seeing change. It's time for our knees to get worn spots on them, for we cannot change the world around us, but we can certainly pray for things near and far, and I certainly believe the Lord is listening to our prayers.

[ToledoDebbie]

Lisa, again I agree. They may wear me down, but, they will never break me!! I do get frustrated and saddened when I see the rampant corruption, lies and actual evil everywhere around us, but, I know that God is in control. He doesn't ask us to become deaf and blind to what is happening, but, he does ask us to "Watch" and when we see all of these things happening, to Praise him and have faith that he knows what must take place for his perfect plan to be fulfilled! The only "White Knight" I am praying will come save us, is Jesus.

[GodsStudent]

Lisa, again I agree. They may wear me down, but, they will never break me!! I do get frustrated and saddened when I see the rampant corruption, lies and actual evil everywhere around us, but, I know that God is in control. He doesn't ask us to become deaf and blind to what is happening, but, he does ask us to "Watch" and when we see all of these things happening, to Praise him and have faith that he knows what must take place for his perfect plan to be fulfilled! The only "White Knight" I am praying will come save us, is Jesus.

Beautifully said, sis!
It seems these endless changes are taking forever, and yet, it also seems I need to settle in and be prepared for a long haul here. I keep thinking that surely we will be experiencing the rapture any minute now, but the longer this goes on, the longer it looks like it will go on for a very long time. Slow and steady for this race into "hell on earth."....literally.
I am so grateful that I am able to read scriptures, discern the times and really stand strong on my own two feet in the face of all of this....but living in this world as it is and as it's become...having to look harder to see the good and ignore all the bad....it's a bit disheartening.....especially when I look at the tiny 11 mos. old grandbaby who was just born into this world. I want so much better for her.....and for all of us....but there is plenty of good out there, and I have to continually remind myself that this is where I must keep my focus. I am more responsible for how I view the world than any of all of the rest of them.....

I sure do wish I were much more local to so many of you here on FP. You're the best people!!!