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Prophet James Goll’s ‘revealing’ interpretation of Luke 7:44

Postby Abiding in His Word on Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:02 pm

Prophet James Goll’s ‘revealing’ interpretation of Luke 7:44 - (Holly)

The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) prophet James Goll gave a teaching about Luke 7:44 that was very revealing — but not in the way he intended.

James Goll is the founder of God Encounters Ministries and author of more than 40 books, including The Seer. He’s also one of the most influential prophets in NAR. He spoke on a panel with me earlier this month at the annual conference of the Religion News Association in Nashville, Tennessee.

Goll’s revealing teaching was featured on GODTV, as part of a Women on the Frontlines conference in Phoenix, Arizona, organized by Patricia King. It can be viewed here. In brief, Goll teaches that Luke 7:44 is a key revelation about the foundation of the church given by Jesus to one of his 12 disciples, Simon Peter, who would later become a key leader in the church. What is this key revelation given by Jesus to Simon Peter? It’s that women should be given leadership roles in the church, including roles as preachers, pastors, and apostles. But there are some big problems with Goll’s interpretation of Luke 7:44. Here are two.

Problem No. 1

Goll’s interpretation of Luke 7:44 is terribly out of context. This verse has nothing to do with the church or leadership roles within it, as can be seen when one simply reads the surrounding text (Luke 7:36-50). It’s about Jesus forgiving sins.

The question of whether women should have leadership roles in the church is another discussion to be had, based on other passages of Scripture. But this particular verse has nothing to do with that question.

It’s curious that Goll would give an interpretation of Scripture that pays no regard to the context since he, himself, tells others that paying attention to the context is important. Here are his own words, found in Chapter 5 of his book The Seer:

    “Search for proper exegesis and scriptural context. One of the most important issues concerning wisdom is our interpretation of Scriptures—or proper exegesis. Many times, ‘prophetically gifted’ people seem predominantly to take a type of loose symbolic interpretation of the Scriptures. Although there are different schools and methodologies of interpretation, we should look for the historical context from which the Scripture is speaking.


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Re: Prophet James Goll’s ‘revealing’ interpretation of Luke 7:44

Postby Douggg on Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:30 am

As soon as I hear the word "prophet" attached to some commentators name, red flags go up for me.

I don't know why these people all want to be prophets, except to think of themselves in that way. I never listen to those peoples' stuff, like Patricia King, except for them being exposed,
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Re: Prophet James Goll’s ‘revealing’ interpretation of Luke 7:44

Postby Abiding in His Word on Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:33 am

Douggg wrote:As soon as I hear the word "prophet" attached to some commentators name, red flags go up for me.


I agree, Douggg, but the chosen and widely accepted labels from the list of gifts mentioned in scripture confuses me. It seems that we choose which gifts are "scriptural" for today and which are not.

Here is a list of gifts I found in Romans 12, 1 Cor. 12, and Eph 4.

1) apostle
2) prophecy
3) miracles
4) healing
5) tongues
6) interpretation of tongues
7) word of knowledge
8) wisdom
9) discerning of spirits
10) giving
11) exhortation
12) ministering
13) showing mercy
14) faith
15)shepherd/teacher
16) evangelism
17) helps
18) administrations
19) hospitality

Missing are the elder/deacon/bishop/presbyter ministries. And only one has been currently granted/assigned a title: shepherd/teacher which we call pastor.

So out of those mentioned in Eph 4 (which is apparently the evidence for the pastor gift), the apostle, prophet and sometimes the evangelist are eliminated as current giftings. So why does the pastor have an office with a name and position on the door and not the apostle, prophet, or evangelist?

A mystery for me....
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