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Oh No He Didn't!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Amnesty for Illegals

Postby drdos on Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:15 am

Won't be long before my job goes away.... :roll:

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"The change in policy could allow as many as 800,000 immigrants who came to the United States illegally not only to remain in the country without fear of being deported, but to work legally, according to a senior administration official speaking to reporters Friday."


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Postby burien1 on Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:28 am

And this comes at a time when unemployment has skyrocketed among our own young people. He must think we no longer need a Congress.
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Postby drdos on Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:36 am

This just adds to the list of reasons why an Impeachment hearing needs to take place.
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Postby drdos on Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:22 pm

:oops: How Dare this reporter speak before Pharaoh Obama. "Off With His Head!" :eek:

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Postby T-Minus? on Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:29 pm

Friends......our country has undergone a soft coup and now we are in the hands of a narcissistic dictator. The "loyal opposition" cowers in fear, utters some bravado, and does nothing about this umpteenth over-reach of power. If he is re-elected by stupidity or theft......expect persecution. Maranatha!!=
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Postby Hisown on Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:22 pm

All part of God's plan right?

Funny thing is every time I would visit the very " elite areas " of your country, it was these " illegals" that were doing all the " dirty jobs" that many refuse to do right!!

As long as " they" are cleaning the toiltes and mowing the lawns right .. :oops:

It's all about " entitlement right!!! :cry:

Shame it's so sad to witness from a outsiders perspective .

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47 Come down, and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon, sit on the ground: there is no throne, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called tender and delicate.

2 Take the millstones, and grind meal: uncover thy locks, make bare the leg, uncover the thigh, pass over the rivers.

3 Thy nakedness shall be uncovered, yea, thy shame shall be seen: I will take vengeance, and I will not meet thee as a man.

4 As for our redeemer, the Lord of hosts is his name, the Holy One of Israel.

5 Sit thou silent, and get thee into darkness, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called, The lady of kingdoms.

6 I was wroth with my people, I have polluted mine inheritance, and given them into thine hand: thou didst shew them no mercy; upon the ancient hast thou very heavily laid thy yoke.

7 And thou saidst, I shall be a lady for ever: so that thou didst not lay these things to thy heart, neither didst remember the latter end of it.

8 Therefore hear now this, thou that art given to pleasures, that dwellest carelessly, that sayest in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me; I shall not sit as a widow, neither shall I know the loss of children:

9 But these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day, the loss of children, and widowhood: they shall come upon thee in their perfection for the multitude of thy sorceries, and for the great abundance of thine enchantments.

10 For thou hast trusted in thy wickedness: thou hast said, None seeth me. Thy wisdom and thy knowledge, it hath perverted thee; and thou hast said in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me.

11 Therefore shall evil come upon thee; thou shalt not know from whence it riseth: and mischief shall fall upon thee; thou shalt not be able to put it off: and desolation shall come upon thee suddenly, which thou shalt not know.

12 Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorceries, wherein thou hast laboured from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so be thou mayest prevail.

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Postby Jericho on Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:25 pm

Hisown plenty of Americans would do those dirty jobs if given the chance and paid adequately. The problem is there are many employers who prefer illegals so they don't have to pay minimum wage and they know Mexicans will work for dirt cheap.

No doubt in Obama is pandering for the Hispanic vote. What part of illegal does he not understand? He has a complete disregard for the laws of the land. I shudder to think what he will do if he gets re-elected.
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Postby daffodyllady on Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:39 pm

If he retains the presidency, I will not believe it was done so legally.
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Postby GodsStudent on Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:20 pm

Scary thought. I have always been amazed at some of the bold things presidents do just before going out of office. Radical stuff gets done in the closure of presidencies.....sometimes. For example, didn't G. Bush do some huge injection of money just as he was exiting?
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Postby jgilberAZ on Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:46 pm

To me, it's not so much what he did, ie, not so much the result of the new "procedures."

What gets me is that he doesn't have the constitutional authority to make law.

Our constitution is being trashed, and no one in congress has the backbone to stand up and say, "ENOUGH!"


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Postby mark s on Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:31 am

Hisown wrote:All part of God's plan right?

Funny thing is every time I would visit the very " elite areas " of your country, it was these " illegals" that were doing all the " dirty jobs" that many refuse to do right!!

As long as " they" are cleaning the toiltes and mowing the lawns right .. :oops:

It's all about " entitlement right!!! :cry:

Shame it's so sad to witness from a outsiders perspective .


Hi Hisown,

You may be interested to know that many immigrants are here quite legally. And in fact, many citizens of this country take on what you might call the "dirty jobs", whether of Hispanic lineage, or European, or Asian, or whatever.

I wouldn't make the mistake of assuming every Hispanic looking person who is mowing a lawn or polishing a rich man's car is an illegal.

But even so, there is a criminal sub-culture of people who do not respect our laws, having entered the country illegally, and have demonstrated their willingness to continue to disrespect our laws in other ways, such as forging documents, circumventing wage and tax laws, automotive insurance requirements, and any number of other laws.

And, there seem to be plenty of people who are equally willing to disregard our laws by hiring these people, often times to take advantage of their status, knowing that they can get away with things someone who has the legal right to work in this country wouldn't stand for.

That our government, and other sectors of our society not only allow these things to continue, but even encourage them, is a serious concern to our law-abiding citizenry. We recognize that this isn't just a matter of some kid who's parents brought them when they were 2. This is a far more serious issue, which, in the minds of many, requires a more meaningful solution that will both address the real needs of those caught in the middle, such as my fictional 2-year-old, that will uphold our constitution - the law of our land - and will hold accountable those who violate our law.

For perhaps a bit of balance, you may want to research Mexico's policy towards illegal immigrants.

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PS . . . I would add that those who unwittingly hire these criminal trespassers, thinking that they have the legal right to work here, due to their forged documents, are being being victimized by them. Here you have a company that believes it is keeping the law, doing things right, and is building their business with the labor of their workers, as businesses do.

What happens when these workers are deported? They've summarily lost their staff, as a fallout to their employee's illegal activity. What happens when they discover that their employee is here illegally? Many employers in small companies, particularly, form close relationships with their workers, coming to think of them as family.

Suddenly you are faced with the knowledge that the person you've invested yourself in, your time and money in training them, promoting them to a position of trust and responsibility, you've come to care for them, to care for their family, suddenly you learn, they are violating the law to be here. They could be taken away at any time. As an employer, you are legally responsible to not employ them. If it is discovered that you are knowingly employing someone who is here illegally, you will be held criminally liable too. So now what??
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Postby laney on Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:23 am

Just another way to buy votes which in illegal also.
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Postby WalkingWithJesus on Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:41 am

From TheBlaze.com:
It‘s very rare that you see President Obama admit wrongdoing after he’s done something. Unfortunately, it’s much more common for him to say something is a bad idea and then do it. Listing the number of instances would take too long, but it‘s safe to say it’s a common trend.

And now there’s just one more example. In the following clip, taken from a 2011 Univision Town Hall, President Obama admits that it’s beyond his power to suspend deportations for anyone because (surprise, surprise) there are laws on the books that he’d be breaking by doing that. In other words, the President acknowledges that to do what he did today would be a rank violation of the separation of powers. Watch below.


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Postby AndCanItBe on Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:03 pm

I fear he is desperate and there is more of his lawlessness to come. The election can't come soon enough. It should be impeachment, but I don't think they will do it because they are terrified of making him look like a victim of Republican shenanigans and unifying the Dems behind him. They make have a point. Unless they have rock solid proof of something even the far left would agree requires impeachment that is exactly what would happen.
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Postby drdos on Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:52 pm

I think part of his motivation for doing this is to further racial unrest in this country. In everything he has ordered and done has been to create unrest and to divide us.
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Postby Exit40 on Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:54 am

drdos wrote:I think part of his motivation for doing this is to further racial unrest in this country. In everything he has ordered and done has been to create unrest and to divide us.


We were already divided. O is just doing what he was elected to do, and just a wee bit more [/sarcasm] as he takes advantage of the political situation. Clever man, in spite of some stumbling when the whachamacallit goes down. What concerns me greatly is the next President may have the opportunity to nominate as many as four Supreme Court Justices. Just imagine for a moment, Supreme Court Justice Eric Holder, or someone like him. Sigh. But you know, 99% of lawyers make the rest of them look bad. The problem with O is he doesn't see the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights, along with the rest of the Constitution as living documents, nor the Scriptures of the Bible. And so in his pride of his own intelligence he is made a fool. Many already see this. :wink: Let's see, who comes to mind first ... :bag:

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Postby daffodyllady on Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:41 am

Oh my... I am having really cynical thoughts here...

Remember how TARP went down? Bush and Obama were arm-in-arm over it, as Bush went out, and Obama came into office. If you don't remember this (as many don't --it seems neither the conservative press nor the liberal press wants us to remember that) then you'll have to search out the records on it. But that's the way it was, according to my memory.

And what have we now? Amnesty. Obama seems to be shooting himself in the foot every time he turns around. Every time he makes a point of making a point, it just helps Romney in the polls. But on this issue, why is Romney so silent? We do have him on record saying to the effect that we need to work something like this out, to be able to get a handle on the situation. Romney is now strangely silent on whether or not he would repeal the EO.

Is is possible... ok, now here comes the worst cynicism of all...
Is it possible that Romney is actually the one chosen by those pulling strings behind elections... and that Obama is doing this at the behest of his handlers? Perhaps to take some of the heat off Romney during his first few years in office, easing in the global initiatives...?
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Postby kirthril on Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:24 pm

daffodyllady wrote:Oh my... I am having really cynical thoughts here...

Remember how TARP went down? Bush and Obama were arm-in-arm over it, as Bush went out, and Obama came into office. If you don't remember this (as many don't --it seems neither the conservative press nor the liberal press wants us to remember that) then you'll have to search out the records on it. But that's the way it was, according to my memory.

And what have we now? Amnesty. Obama seems to be shooting himself in the foot every time he turns around. Every time he makes a point of making a point, it just helps Romney in the polls. But on this issue, why is Romney so silent? We do have him on record saying to the effect that we need to work something like this out, to be able to get a handle on the situation. Romney is now strangely silent on whether or not he would repeal the EO.

Is is possible... ok, now here comes the worst cynicism of all...
Is it possible that Romney is actually the one chosen by those pulling strings behind elections... and that Obama is doing this at the behest of his handlers? Perhaps to take some of the heat off Romney during his first few years in office, easing in the global initiatives...?


Romney just came out today saying Obamas EO does not solve the immigration issue, or should be the path forward. I don't think he has condemned the action though. If your asserting that due to "the powers that be" causing these presidents to work in tandem, you are probably correct. Romney is no conservative, so it stands to reason he might continue much of what obama has done.

Also, its not just Romney. The entire congressional electorate is silent. There has been no flat out outrage that what obama has just done is flat out illegal. Only "this is just a political move to win the hispanic vote" <--- not what i call a condemnation.
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Postby mark s on Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:15 pm

kirthril wrote:
Also, its not just Romney. The entire congressional electorate is silent. There has been no flat out outrage that what obama has just done is flat out illegal. Only "this is just a political move to win the hispanic vote" <--- not what i call a condemnation.


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Postby drdos on Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:15 am

Exit40 wrote:
drdos wrote:I think part of his motivation for doing this is to further racial unrest in this country. In everything he has ordered and done has been to create unrest and to divide us.


We were already divided. O is just doing what he was elected to do, and just a wee bit more [/sarcasm] as he takes advantage of the political situation. Clever man, in spite of some stumbling when the whachamacallit goes down. What concerns me greatly is the next President may have the opportunity to nominate as many as four Supreme Court Justices. Just imagine for a moment, Supreme Court Justice Eric Holder, or someone like him. Sigh. But you know, 99% of lawyers make the rest of them look bad. The problem with O is he doesn't see the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights, along with the rest of the Constitution as living documents, nor the Scriptures of the Bible. And so in his pride of his own intelligence he is made a fool. Many already see this. :wink: Let's see, who comes to mind first ... :bag:

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Postby kirthril on Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:55 pm

mark s wrote:
kirthril wrote:
Also, its not just Romney. The entire congressional electorate is silent. There has been no flat out outrage that what obama has just done is flat out illegal. Only "this is just a political move to win the hispanic vote" <--- not what i call a condemnation.


Could it be the stillness of those who live in glass houses?

forgive me, i don't really know what your phrase means :( but I'm guessing the answer is... yes?
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Postby mark s on Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:45 pm

Hi kirthril,

"He who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones."

You can just imagine what will happen!

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