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USA Deserves Obama

Postby Final Trumpet on Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:15 pm

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Re: USA Deserves Obama

Postby aaron on Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:29 pm

Obama rebuked the the middle class for "clinging to their religion and their guns."

Jeremiah Wright, ACORN, William Ayers, Rezko, South American Revolutionaries.

"If Obama wins, it is God's judgement on America."

They said Obama would have no problem killing 40,000 Christians in America. That is scary, and only 40,000? Would people choose to save their lives and deny Christ? God forbid!
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Re: USA Deserves Obama

Postby Sue-M on Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:33 pm

I can definately see we are in big trouble. There's no doubt. But, does anyone else have a kind of peace about it all? Almost like it's all suppose to happen according to God's Will. It's not what I want. And not saying I like it. But, just having an unexplained peace about it today. I don't know, hard to explain.
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Re: USA Deserves Obama

Postby mark s on Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:36 pm

Sue-M wrote:I can definately see we are in big trouble. There's no doubt. But, does anyone else have a kind of peace about it all? Almost like it's all suppose to happen according to God's Will. It's not what I want. And not saying I like it. But, just having an unexplained peace about it today. I don't know, hard to explain.


I do.

The believers at my work do also. God's Holy Spirit is in us, that's awesome!!!
ειπεν αυτη ο ιησους εγω ειμι η αναστασις και η ζωη ο πιστευων εις εμε καν αποθανη ζησεται
. . . saying to her Jesus, I AM the resurrection and the life, the one believing into Me even dying shall live . . .
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Re: USA Deserves Obama

Postby phobos on Wed Nov 05, 2008 5:01 pm

Sue-M wrote:I can definately see we are in big trouble. There's no doubt. But, does anyone else have a kind of peace about it all? Almost like it's all suppose to happen according to God's Will. It's not what I want. And not saying I like it. But, just having an unexplained peace about it today. I don't know, hard to explain.


Yes, I understand it. Actually sometime a couple of weeks ago, I realized that Obama was very likely going to be the president and I have been okay with it. Not that I like Obama, but it's like you said, it must be a part of God's plan. So, I'll buckle in for the ride. :grin:
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Re: USA Deserves Obama

Postby kyle on Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:24 pm

Sue-M wrote:I can definately see we are in big trouble. There's no doubt. But, does anyone else have a kind of peace about it all? Almost like it's all suppose to happen according to God's Will. It's not what I want. And not saying I like it. But, just having an unexplained peace about it today. I don't know, hard to explain.


Thank you. I thought I was the only one after seeing everybody here weeping and crying about it. In a way, I'm almost happy about it because it shows that prophecy is moving along and Jesus will be back soon. It's weird. I know that the Bible says that we are to pray for Christ's return, but knowing the things that will surround it, it can be hard sometimes.
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Re: USA Deserves Obama

Postby kazbo on Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:47 pm

Sue-M wrote:I can definately see we are in big trouble. There's no doubt. But, does anyone else have a kind of peace about it all? Almost like it's all suppose to happen according to God's Will. It's not what I want. And not saying I like it. But, just having an unexplained peace about it today. I don't know, hard to explain.


Today I feel okay about it. Last night I was very upset by it and sick to my stomach, but today I just think, "so be it". Thank you, Lord!
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Re: USA Deserves Obama

Postby WhiteH2OWoman on Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:09 am

I can't say I feel any peace, but I'm not real surprised.

Y'all remember Billy Graham's famous statement from...oh, it must be decades ago...to the effect that if God doesn't judge America soon, He's going to have to issue a formal apology to Sodom and Gomorrah? So it's not like we didn't know this was coming. That still doesn't ease the pain and shock of it beginning NOW, though.

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Re: USA Deserves Obama

Postby Resurrection Torchlight on Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:03 am

Thank you. I thought I was the only one after seeing everybody here weeping and crying about it. In a way, I'm almost happy about it because it shows that prophecy is moving along and Jesus will be back soon. It's weird. I know that the Bible says that we are to pray for Christ's return, but knowing the things that will surround it, it can be hard sometimes.


I am excited to see God working out His plan for the coming of His son and also excited about what opportunities may come with difficult days ahead to share the love of Christ with those in my life.


As for the video- I think they go a bit too far in their commentary and make a lot of assumptions based on speculation of the facts. Things may or may not turn out the way they think. Regardless of how bad things may get- our God is greater than he who is in the world- so we have nothing to fear.

1 John 4:4

4 You are from God, little children, and have overcome them; because greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world.




Matthew 10:28

28 “Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.


John 14:27-28

27 “Peace I leave with you; My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Do not let your heart be troubled, nor let it be fearful.

28 “You heard that I said to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.


Romans 8:14-18

14 For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.

15 For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, “Abba! Father!”

16 The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God,

17 and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him.

18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us.


1 Peter 3:13-18

13 Who is there to harm you if you prove zealous for what is good?

14 But even if you should suffer for the sake of righteousness, you are blessed. And do not fear their intimidation, and do not be troubled,

15 but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence;

16 and keep a good conscience so that in the thing in which you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ will be put to shame.

17 For it is better, if God should will it so, that you suffer for doing what is right rather than for doing what is wrong.

18 For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit;


1 John 4:16-18

16 We have come to know and have believed the love which God has for us. God is love, and the one who abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.

17 By this, love is perfected with us, so that we may have confidence in the day of judgment; because as He is, so also are we in this world.

18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love.


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Re: USA Deserves Obama

Postby noble1 on Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:36 am

I wasn't overly distraught to see Obama win because it brings us one step closer to going home to be with our Lord! I do have a peace about things and will continue to pray and lean on God for His understanding in all of those things that are surely to come. Remember, God overcame the world and because His spirit is within us we are a testimony of that victory! Rejoice people! Rejoice that soon and very soon we are going to see THE KING!! JESUS!! WHOO HOOO!!! :a3: :a3: :a3: :a3: :a3:
And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. (Romans 8:28)
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Re: USA Deserves Obama

Postby PerishNot on Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:23 pm

aaron wrote:They said Obama would have no problem killing 40,000 Christians in America. That is scary, and only 40,000? Would people choose to save their lives and deny Christ? God forbid!


Who is "they" that said this?? What was the context of the threat? What do "they" mean??
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Re: USA Deserves Obama

Postby Resurrection Torchlight on Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:57 am

"they" are the commentators on the show at the link. That is just something they think, there is no actual threat or any facts to back that up, it is based primarily on Barak's association with socialists. He never said anything like this himself.

Personally I think these commentators read a bit too much into the man and his intentions.

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Re: USA Deserves Obama

Postby Final Trumpet on Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:49 am

Resurrection Torchlight wrote:"they" are the commentators on the show at the link. That is just something they think, there is no actual threat or any facts to back that up, it is based primarily on Barak's association with socialists. He never said anything like this himself.

Personally I think these commentators read a bit too much into the man and his intentions.

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Yeah, and there were alot of people that didn't read too much into Hitler and his intentions until it was too late...
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Re: USA Deserves Obama

Postby WhiteH2OWoman on Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:58 am

Final Trumpet wrote:Yeah, and there were alot of people that didn't read too much into Hitler and his intentions until it was too late...


Exactly! Ask some of the elderly Jews who still have barcodes tattooed on their arms about that (and realize that since they are still alive, they were the LUCKY ones.)
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Re: USA Deserves Obama

Postby Resurrection Torchlight on Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:56 am

I am not saying that bad things might come under Obamas' presidency, that very well may be, but it is all in God's hands and we can speculate as to what might happen and become fearful, or we can praise God that he will use the situation to accomplish his will for the world and yes for us as well. Have you ever stopped to think that if Hitler never rose to power, Israel may not now exist again as a nation? God used the situation to work out His sovereign plan. Yes it is sad and horrific that so many were killed and treated wrongly by an evil man, but in the end God's will was accomplished through the intentions of Satan who meant it for evil- but God used it for good. The same will happen again, we know this because God tells us what is to come. In the end God triumphs, even though Satan has evil intent- in the end we will reign on the New earth- we will live eternally. So let's praise God that we may indeed be seeing the fulfillment of His plan.

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Re: USA Deserves Obama

Postby mrgravyard49 on Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:37 pm

Oh yes YES America Deserves Obama...
But its all in God's hands. I really believe God put Bush in office to start the end-times. And I think he let Obama in to start the 70th week. Should be very interesting....
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Re: USA Deserves Obama

Postby sherrimae on Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:26 pm

I am sad about the direction that the US is going, but heartened because it looks like the fulfillment of prophecy may have taken a big step forward.
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