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Give us a King!

Postby savedbygrace on Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:28 am

http://www.christianworldviewnetwork.co ... cleID=4152

11/05/2008

America Cries, "Give us a King!"

By Jan Markell



There is a story in II Samuel 8 where we see Israel demanding a king. God was not sufficient for them, so they asked for a "real king." They got an evil one -- Saul.



America has been in a similar mood. We want a "king" to solve our many problems starting with the economy. So Israel said to Samuel, "Now appoint a king to lead us such as all the other nations have" (II Samuel 8:5). But all the other nations had pagan kings.

God lamented to Samuel and said, "Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will do."

Two years ago came a charismatic man named Barack Obama who was engulfed in a cult-like atmosphere. Some actually called him "the messiah." Shrines were built to him. A Web site said, "Obama is god." There has been a messianic fervor, adoration and a worship-like atmosphere surrounding him. At some rallies people fainted at the sight of him. Young children recorded on YouTube sang songs to him stating he would change the world.

The intrigue with this man is global. Newsweek magazine had a headline recently titled, "The World Hopes for its First President." Imagine, a world president! Newsweek states, "In country after country, polls show a record-high fascination with the outcome of the U.S. elections."



Newsweek basically said "The international audience really cared less about John McCain, Sarah Palin, or Joe Biden. Somewhere along the road to the White House, Obama became the world's candidate."

Even for those with proper eschatology this sounds alarming. But on the positive side, a barometer as to how late the hour is has been revealed. Newsweek continues, "Obama is a 21st century man with whom the whole world can identify."



In Obama's speech in Berlin, Obama said that we are all citizens of the world! Talk about a message on globalism. Will he establish the one-world system?

America longs for a king to take care of us. We demanded change and change we will get! There are YouTube clips of people jumping for joy that Obama will take care of them. As one says, "Obama will pay my mortgage and buy my gas." The entitlement mentality reigns and it is cross-cultural.

As Jack Kinsella says in his recent Omega Intelligence Digest, "In October capitalism passed away after a long illness." He is right. Socialism now is very appealing and being implemented in America. The government is buying up many industries and turning them over to a new Socialist president!

None of the candidates who ran in "Campaign 2008" can save us! Only the Lord God of Israel can do that! But as in Samuel's day, God is not good enough for America. Thus, I believe He has allowed "strong delusion" to filter across the nation and around the world. It says in Isaiah 66:4, "I will choose their delusions." Thus, all has happened for a reason. God removes kings and establishes kings for His own purposes. (Daniel 2:21)

Here's what we do know for sure. In spite of troubling and even perilous times, the Bible still has all the answers, the Holy Spirit is still active, God will still inhabit the praises of His people, there will still be room at the cross, Jesus will still save the lost, and Jesus will still return to the holy city of Jerusalem to establish perfect government: A Theocracy for 1000 years.



"For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given; and the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of His government and peace there will be no end...."(Isaiah 9:6-7)
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Re: Give us a King!

Postby Salty Skipper on Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:35 am

I'm grieving to the point of being physically ill today. These people who have voted for their king have no idea what fate will befall them. Lord God Almighty, Maker of Heaven and Earth, we beg your mercy and forgiveness. Help us to stand strong and please strengthen us and help us listen to your instruction. Those who will listen, put them in our paths and use our bodies as your vessels. Not our will, but Yours be done.
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Re: Give us a King!

Postby burien1 on Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:16 am

Salty Skipper wrote:I'm grieving to the point of being physically ill today. These people who have voted for their king have no idea what fate will befall them. Lord God Almighty, Maker of Heaven and Earth, we beg your mercy and forgiveness. Help us to stand strong and please strengthen us and help us listen to your instruction. Those who will listen, put them in our paths and use our bodies as your vessels. Not our will, but Yours be done.

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Re: Give us a King!

Postby noble1 on Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:18 am

I'm right with you there Salty, my stomach has been in knots and nauseous over the choice this country made in their President. However, with that said I will be praying that God opens his eyes and the eyes of those that are upon him to the real TRUTH before it becomes too late. I'm not very good at quoting scripture references but one comes to mind when I think of the mess our country is in right now -- that God gave them over to their depravity because it was their choice in whom they would follow. Obviously not entirely correct, but you get the gist of it.

America has chosen their next leader, but it is God's plans that will prevail for this country and we have the roadmap to follow as we watch and pray for God's will to be done in any and every situation this country faces. Be on your knees saints as we watch and pray for the Lord's return!

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Re: Give us a King!

Postby joymart on Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:42 am

Salty, old friend, I am with you. Physicially ill and spiritually troubled.

But Jesus said

Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid... however, there is also a time to mourn.

I am mourning the death of the Republic. The free Christian country our fathers died for.

We have been talking about this from an abstract point of view on the board for years now and wondering how could America be taken out of the way and not support Israel? How could the people possibly submit to one worldism? How could they take a mark in order to buy and sell?
Well, conditions have changed in order to bring all of that in overnight.I never believed I would see it happen so quickly.

God is in control. These are the days we have been warned about. Need to keep those lamps full of oil for the return of the bridegroom.

I do not have optimism for the USA. I might if we were not actively dividing Jerusalem, but Rice is making that a done deal even as we speak, with agreements that will be binding upon this next administration...not that this next administration needs any help with that.

No sense calling this anything but what it is. We are done as a nation.
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Re: Give us a King!

Postby Jericho on Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:52 am

The phrase "be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it" comes to mind. I'm amazed how the world has put so much faith in a man who hasn't solved one problem yet. Don't be disheartened tho, we survived thru the Clinton administration and we'll survive thru Obama too. Onward to 2012.
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Re: Give us a King!

Postby FreeInHim on Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:27 pm

savedbygrace wrote:Here's what we do know for sure. In spite of troubling and even perilous times, the Bible still has all the answers, the Holy Spirit is still active, God will still inhabit the praises of His people, there will still be room at the cross, Jesus will still save the lost, and Jesus will still return to the holy city of Jerusalem to establish perfect government: A Theocracy for 1000 years.


:a3: Thanks for posting that, SavedByGrace. I needed to hear this.

Salty, I'm so there with you. I still haven't been able to turn on the TV and watch any news. I just can't bear to see and hear the lost celebrating their newly appointed "king." Foolishness....

The one thing that came out of this mess (for me) is the ability to finely confirm that the evil now outnumber the good in this country, and it seems whenever that occurs God places judgment on a nation. Our time has come, indeed.
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Re: Give us a King!

Postby FamilyMan on Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:53 pm

You're not alone. My guts have been in knots since last night. People are just gushing over this guy as if he will create a perfect eutopia for everyone. I fear it will not be a eutopia, but a small taste of hell on earth he will bring. Already, world leaders are looking to him to solve their problems. His deception spreads so easily. Too easily to be solely that of man. His words tickle peoples ears and are like honey. We are in for some very rough, very scary times. All we can do is put our faith in the Lord and try to open the eyes of the lost and deceived.
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Re: Give us a King!

Postby savedbygrace on Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:59 pm

FreeInHim wrote:
The one thing that came out of this mess (for me) is the ability to finely confirm that the evil now outnumber the good in this country, and it seems whenever that occurs God places judgment on a nation. Our time has come, indeed.

Actually, its sad that the fate of this nation is determined by less than half of the total population... the ones who voted. I have read that Hitler was elected by a third of the popular vote.
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Re: Give us a King!

Postby WhiteH2OWoman on Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:11 pm

Amen, Salty!

Old Israel wanted a king...and the kings got worse and worse until the Babylonian captivity.

We are under judgment now. Lord have mercy and please don't give us everything we deserve!

Interesting how this is mainly a generational split. Saw a horizontal bar chart of Texas votes divided into 4 age groups. Youngest group was 1/3 McCain, oldest was 2/3 McCain, and the line went diagonally across (meaning, the percentage voting McCain increased with age.)

You know what I think? I think Satan got REALLY mad when we Americans led the charge in WW2 to liberate His people from the concentration camps, and we succeeded. Satan knew the WW2 generation was too mature to listen to his lies, so he bided his time and thought, "OK...I'll get you where it really hurts...I'll get your KIDS!" And thus, he set snares for us Baby Boomers, and by and large we fell for them. And we've been falling ever since.
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