BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA:WHAT IS IN A NAME?

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BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA:WHAT IS IN A NAME?

Postby El Gallo on Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:32 pm

"Bee," a contributer to Joel's Trumpet, said:

"You know there are some creepy things about his name… Barack was also the name of Mohammed’s “white horse” on which he ascended, (I believe they associate the horse with Allah himself.) Correct me if I am wrong but I think the name of the white horse was pronounced “Buh-rawk” as opposed to the name Baruch which means “blessed” and is pronounced “Bah-rook.”

His middle name “Hussein” was of course Mohammed’s grandson who fought for the right to rule and began the Shiite branch of Islam.

Then name Obama… was interesting. I talked to a missionary friend who knew Swahili and she said that the “O” was probably a prefix that designated a male… and “Bama” meant “Son of Prophecy”, at least in hebrew, which is very similar to arabic. (She explained Swahili was a trade language that was a combination between Bantu and Arabic, due to the Arab merchants that would trade in Africa.)"

I responded:

"Holy cow! Bee may get the gold star for the week. Bee can you provide your research? If you did not make any errors, this is either massive coincidence, or very portentious.

First, if his name is white horse, hmmm, I remember something about a first horseman being on a white horse.

Second, the entire Shiite occultation myth is related to the disagreement they have with Sunnis about Hussein’s authority. Let’s pull the thread on this, to see how this name could be tied into Islamic eschatology.

And of course, "Bama, Son of Prophecy," ties directly into this Muslim eschatology.

Could it be history is right under our noses? I can only say that a year from now, the answer should be quite clear. But it would be a disservice for this this site of watchers not to look more closely and anticipate."

Thoughts from any scholars here?
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Postby AndCanItBe on Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:37 pm

Hi El Gallo! I'm going to move this to the election forum. Thanks!
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Postby Swayde on Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:25 pm

But but but but but but he's not a muslim!!!!!
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Postby El Gallo on Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:08 am

And where is his sudden flood of money coming from. No one knows b/c of disclosure laws on contributions for less than $200. It could be from Muslim countries.

http://www.nysun.com/article/71113?page_no=1
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Postby IamtheWalrus on Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:07 am

Very Very Very interesting
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Postby Exit40 on Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:05 am

The first time I heard the interpretation of Barak, which at the time was translated ' blessed of the lord' I thought of this verse.

Jhn 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.


It's hard to imagine how this can be anything but a fluke, but I agree he is worth watching, at least from the standpoint of he might be our next President.

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Postby Mrs. B on Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:13 pm

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:03 am Post subject:

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The coming of the Aintchrist.....the dragon, the old devil, Satan


Daniel 11:7.....But out of a Branch of her roots shall One Stand Up in His estate, which shall come with an army, and shall enter
into the fortress of the King of the North, and shall deal against them, and shall prevail:

13.....For the king of the north shall return and shall set forth a miltitude greater than the former, and shall certainly come after (Heb. of the end of times even years ch.4:16 and 12:7)after certain years with a Great Army and with Much Riches...

19....Then he shall turn his face toward the fort of his own land:
but he shall stumble and fall and not be found....


20....Then shall stand up...in his estate (or in his place) a raiser of taxes (Heb. one that causeth an exacter to pass over) in the Glory of the Kingdom:
but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger (angers) nor in battle....

21......And in his estate(or, in his place) shall stand up a vile person.....
to whom they shall not give the honour of the Kingdom:
but he shall come in peaceable, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries....
(this is the a/c)..


22.....And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken;
yea, also the Prince of the Covenant:

22....And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully:
for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people..

24.....He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of province: and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches:
yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.

25....And he shall stir up his power and his courage against the King of the South with a Great army;
and the king of the south shall be stirred up to battle with a very great and mighty army;
but he shall not stand:
for they shall forecast devices against him....

26.....Yea, they that feed of the portion of his meat shall destroy him, and his army shall overflow: and many shall fall down slain.

27....And both these kings' hearts shall be to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table;
but it shall not prosper:
for Yet the end shall be at the time appointed...

28.....Then shall he return into his land with great riches;
and His Heart shall Be Against the Holy Covenant...( The Christians the Blood Covenant we have with Jesus)
and he shall do exploits, and return to his own land..

29....AT THE TIME APPOINTED he shall return, and come toward the south;
but it shall not be as the former, or as the latter.

30.....For the Ships of Chittim shall come against him:
therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have.....
indignation Against the Holy Covenant.(the Christians)
so shall he do;
he shall even return, and have Intelligence with them that forsake the Holy Covenant......(the falling away from the truth christians)

31.....And Arms shall Stand on His Part....
and they shall pollute the Sanctuary of Strength, and shall take away the Daily Sacrifice, and they shall place the Abomination that Maketh Desolate.......

the Sanctuary of Strength......where is the sanctuary of Strength?
It is the believers......we are the sanctuary....our bodies....where the Holy Spirit dwells....in us the believer.....
When we fall away from the truth of the word of God......we loose our power......or strength....

This is the abomination that maketh it desolate....
when God see that we the Church have Lost Our Power....we have fallen away from the Truth......so the a/c takes over

32......And such as do wickedly against The Covenant ........shall be Corrupt by Flatteries:
But the people that do know their God shall be Strong, and do Exploits.

33.....And they that understand among the people shall Instruct Many:
yet they shall fall by the SWORD, and by Flame, by Captivity, and by Spoil, many days.

34....Now when they shall Fall.....they shall be holpen with a little help:
But many shall cleave to them with flatteries.

35.....And some of them of Understanding shall fall.....
to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end:
Because it is yet for a Time Appointed....


Read the whole chapter......meditate on it....this is how the a/c comes into power.......and how at the end he is destroyed....

45.....And he shall plant the Tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the Glorious Holy Mountain, yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him..

12:1......And at this time shall Michael stand up, the Great Prince which standeth for the children of thy people:
and there shall be a time of Trouble, such as never was since a nation even to that same time:
and at that Time Thy People shall be delivered,
Every one that be Found..... Writtn in the Book...
(the book of Life...of the Lamb of God......

11:10....Many shall be Purified, and Made White and TRIED;
but the wicked shall do wickedly:
and none of the wicked shall understand;
But the wise shall Understand....


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Postby El Gallo on Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:05 pm

I agree this could all be a fluke. Two rocks upon which many an eschatological ship have foundered are (1) setting second coming dates, and (2) speculating on who the AC is. BHO may be a flash in the pan. Or he could be President and do little more thatn move end times events forward a bit. However, he could also be a very important figure who moves those events to their culmination.

Potentially, you have quite an intriguing person. He is charasmatic to the point of being treated as a demi-god by some. If he becomes President, it will be running --byfar--the most powerful country on earth and in history. That country is now deeply involved in the ME, including being in Babylon. The potential is arresting.
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Postby 4Jesus4ever on Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:08 pm

I've read the other thread about Barack's name meaning. Do any of you know where it is and can you link me to it?
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Postby Nikos on Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:16 am

I am concerned about this man Barak Obama. I believe that his ability to sway the people coming into the race and winning over the 1st woman candidate. This is something that is supernatural. I mean demonic. Keep you eye on this man. He never seems to have to answer any questions. He is more liberal than Kennedy. He will get out of Iraq immediately to the delight of the Muslims. He will have an open border policy with Mexico to the delight of the Muslims. He will open diplomatic relations with the terrorists to the delikght of the muslims. And on and on!

This man is dangerous. Watch who he puts in as VP and in the cabinets.
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Postby El Gallo on Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:26 pm

He could be a flash in the pan, since politics is filled with Roman Rockets who shoot up, then fizzle out. On the other hand, these are not normal times. If he becomes President, getting out of Babylon may be the last thing he intends.
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