what does a one world religion look like?

[wschaub]

I just stumbled across this article that seems like a perfect blueprint for a one world religion and what the AOC being implemented might actually look like.

http://www.religion-online.org/showchapter.asp?title=2735&C=2470

[InHim]

All sounds reasonable. What it comes down to is what I think is written on those Georgia Stones: there are too many of us for the environment to sustain, at least not at the high level of consumption that those such as North America enjoy.

For a one world religion to exist, at least as a conglomeration of all the worlds faiths, it is not a question of their coexisting, rather they must all come under a higher law or reality that defines their meaning. Your religion is true, but it is a small truth, and it is time to recognize that it must come under the big truth as must all the rest.

I don't see how to talk our way out of this. If you are born again, you have a witness in your spirit of the reality of Jesus as God's son who died so that we might live with Him re-united with God.

But there are other spirits, those that deny that Jesus was God, the same Word through whom all things were created, who came in the flesh and dwelt among us.

We are going to look more and more like heritcs. It was that way in early Rome too. They considered Christians athiests. And of course Jeremiah was considered a traiter to his society and anti patriotic.

When love is redefined to be something other than the love God showed the world by giving His own Son, and instead becomes a matter of ones utility or usefullness to the state, the love of many will indeed grow cold.

It is getting interesting as the sides become more defined.

[in2truth]

I just stumbled across this article that seems like a perfect blueprint for a one world religion and what the AOC being implemented might actually look like.

"A holy war will now begin on America, and when it is ended America will be supposedly the citadel of freedom, but her millions will unknowingly be loyal subjects to the Crown. Your churches will be used to teach the Jew's religion and in less than two hundred years the whole nation will be working for divine world government. That government that they believe to be divine will be the British Empire. All religions will be permeated with Judaism without even being noticed by the masses, and they will all be under the invisible all-seeing eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry.”

-- British General Charles Cornwallis to General George Washington

I'm not saying I agree that this is what it will be, but at the end of the day, Judaism rejects Jesus Christ as savior and that's obviously satan's intent.

More realisticly would be the scenario as seen in the Left Behind series.

In recent months, the media has been promoting mother earth and sun worshipping stories so conservative people of the world are getting conditioned into accepting what the world considers alternative lifestyles as normal. I wonder how many people would still worship the sun if they knew the sun god Ra is Egyptian for Lucifer.

[OBXBob]

Hello in2truth,

You wrote:

I'm not saying I agree that this is what it will be, but at the end of the day, Judaism rejects Jesus Christ as savior and that's obviously satan's intent.

How do you interpret this portion of Romans 11?

Romans 11

1. I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin.
2. God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don't you know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah--how he appealed to God against Israel:
3. "Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars; I am the only one left, and they are trying to kill me" ?
4. And what was God's answer to him? "I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal."
5. So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace.
6. And if by grace, then it is no longer by works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.
7. What then? What Israel sought so earnestly it did not obtain, but the elect did. The others were hardened,
8. as it is written: "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes so that they could not see and ears so that they could not hear, to this very day."
9. And David says: "May their table become a snare and a trap, a stumbling block and a retribution for them.
10. May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see, and their backs be bent forever."
11. Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all! Rather, because of their transgression, salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious.
12. But if their transgression means riches for the world, and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much greater riches will their fullness bring!
13. I am talking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I make much of my ministry
14. in the hope that I may somehow arouse my own people to envy and save some of them.
15. For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead?
16. If the part of the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, then the whole batch is holy; if the root is holy, so are the branches.
17. If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root,
18. do not boast over those branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you.
19. You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in."
20. Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid.
21. For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either.
22. Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.
23. And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.
24. After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!
25. I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in.
26. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27. And this is my covenant with them when I take away their sins."

YBIC,

Bob

[in2truth]

I think you are misunderstanding my point.

I understand that the Jews are God's chosen people. I never said that God rejected them. What I said was that the Jews back in the day rejected Jesus as their Messiah, just like all that worship the beast will, hence a religion of Judaism. Obviously it will look nothing like it did back in the day because people certainly won't be living according to the Old Testament law, they will break all of God's laws.

Here's something to ponder.

Every person who's name is written in the book of life are Jews. After all, we are all descendants of Abraham. We may have generations of Australian, Scottish, American, French ancestors etc., but at the end of the day, we are all seeds of Abraham, making all of us of Jewish descent whether we were born of Jewish parents or not.

Now, think about the giants, they obviously are not seeds of Abraham, but seeds of the devil, so it stands to reason that descendants of the giants are living on earth today and still procreating. Given also that aliens (UFO's) are actually demons and people swear black and blue that they were abducted and impregnated by them, it stands to reason that the children born of these abductions are of the devil and could possibly be the tares that the devil places amongst us in churches etc that the bible speaks of.

Bit of imagination used, but given the Word of God is true and accurate, I don't see any reason why the practice of it stopped in the Old Testament.

The spiritual realm at times is more real to me than this physical realm, I've seen things that would really send your imagination soaring. All spirits are capable of manifesting themselves, whether of God or of the devil. Angels have been known to manifest themselves to people, there are accounts of that in the bible and today, and demons also manifest themselves, countless people have seen them, usually they manifest themselves to try and scare people from drawing closer to Jesus, but they usually have the opposite affect, demons normally manifest themselves to people who came from an occult background to Christ, such as myself.

[OBXBob]

Hi in2truth,

Thanks for clarifying!

YBIC,

Bob

[smallisland]

For a one world religion to exist, at least as a conglomeration of all the worlds faiths, it is not a question of their coexisting, rather they must all come under a higher law or reality that defines their meaning. Your religion is true, but it is a small truth, and it is time to recognize that it must come under the big truth as must all the rest.

There is still a HUGE body of people who if asked would say they have no religious faith and that all the troubles in the world are down to religion (most of my family, neighbourhood and work colleagues for a start!). While I can see that the development of this "one world religion" will make sense to them as a way of eliminating conflict, I don't see them being personally being interested in "signing up" to it in any way. They will just register no interest as usual!

[savedbygrace]

It makes sense to me that IF there is going to actually be a world-wide enforcement of religion, it will have to be along the lines of the tolerance-based ecumenical movement of the AoC. People will be forced into the system of values, whether they are interested or not. They will need to participate because lines are being drawn now between those who are part of the new world order and those who are not. People who do not participate in the upcoming new world order will be outcasts, they will be the intolerant and labeled as extremists or radicals.

However I don't believe Islam could be the one-world religion because in Daniel 11:40 the AC is attacked by the king of the South (Saudi/Egypt-Islam?) and 'the blasphemous one who does according to his own will'' (vs 36) overthrows the kind of the South, simultaneously overtaking Glorious Land and many other countries (vs 41). This would not be hard to do, annihilating the Islamic armies, especially if the EU/USA merge together and the WEU (possible ten horns) has control/access to the US military equipment and troops for their disposal.

Also Daniel 11:44 is descriptive of different kings from different parts of the world, namely the Kinds of the East (India/China?) and North (Russia?) who are not apparently of the same religion nor part of the AC's army. It would not make sense if all of these kings were Islamic and fighting against each other. So I believe there will be a push for a new world order, but it may not fully encompass every country, or peoples. Some will resist, whether Islam, Christian or disinterested humanistic individuals, but the AC will mainly try to push south in the end (vs 43). This fits a European AC, pushing south toward the Glorious Land and battling Islam, rather than being part of it.

[GodsStudent]

http://www.olivetreeviews.org/radio/mp3/


April 4, 2009 - Hour 1
Brannon Howse joins Jan to discuss many current issues including the mandatory public service known as AmeriCorps, the meaning of the recent G-20 meeting, and the role of Saul Alinksky in today's politics and Barack Obama's life. They also raise the question, is the economy being destroyed on purpose? This is not conspiratorial nonsense but a tough look at where America and the world are presently. Everything is on fast-forward so share the gospel while there is time.


Another FP member emailed this link to me today and insisted I listen! She was right, and this was an excellent show done by Jan Markell and Brannon Howse. Awesome. This show falls in line with SBG's comments above and may provide additional insight into how the picture actually is unfolding....and it isn't Islam, its pure evil, though!

[OneDay]

Amen sister GS!
Howse talks about it here also, about 4 minutes long
Three Worldviews Merge: Understanding One-World Spirituality
http://www.worldviewtube.com/video.php/ ... nnon-Howse

[smallisland]

It makes sense to me that IF there is going to actually be a world-wide enforcement of religion, it will have to be along the lines of the tolerance-based ecumenical movement of the AoC. People will be forced into the system of values, whether they are interested or not.

How do you see people being forced savedbygrace?

[plalgum]

Refering to INTRUTHs posting Our Lord said that the end times would be like Nohas days,and these alien interventions would correspond to what are called Nephilim, maybe all the Worlds leaders,top ranking masons,people of great influence are the spawn of such associations

[plalgum]

Responding to smallisland as how to get people worshiping the head of aone world religon,you start them young,you get them covering their bedroom walls with pictures of the IDOL of the moment,you give them little figurines of their heros,you bombard them night and day,the whole culture is geared to idolatry,films,magazines,music,comics,TV promotes never ending worship of celebrity the list goes on and on.THEN polititions become sexy and then?

[El Gallo]

No time left for hypothetical new religions sez I. Neither does the idea of a sudden militaristic ecumenical movement seem realistic. How many Muslims are genuinely ecumenical? Hardly any.

meanwhile, Islam's doctrines and eschatology mock Judaism and Christianity in every particular. We say Satan, the Beast, and the FP will all be imitations of the Trinity. The Trinity is Christian (and clearly found in the OT too). Does it not make sense that the violent, relentless, blasphemous Muslim religion, so menacing the entire West today, will be this direct counterfeit of the Biblical faith? Remeber too it was raised right where the Babylonian blasphemy began.

[smallisland]

It makes sense to me that IF there is going to actually be a world-wide enforcement of religion, it will have to be along the lines of the tolerance-based ecumenical movement of the AoC. People will be forced into the system of values, whether they are interested or not. They will need to participate because lines are being drawn now between those who are part of the new world order and those who are not. People who do not participate in the upcoming new world order will be outcasts, they will be the intolerant and labeled as extremists or radicals.

I agree with this feeling expressed by savedbygrace. On a small scale I was thinking of my work situation where I sit alongside Muslims, Hindus, Jews, Christians of all persuasions both practising and non, as well as those of no religious persuasion. We all work together as a team and show respect towards one another. That is of course a condition of our employment. I have no doubt that 90% of my colleagues would be more than happy to sign up to a tolerance-based value system because they're already familiar with operating in that way on a smaller scale and it would feel like a fairly normal progression.

Perhaps this answers my question about how people would be forced into the system whether interested or not. Because they won't in fact be all that interested, they probably won't really feel forced at all.

[plalgum]

Just a thought,maybe it will be a "save the planet" type of religon

[aaron]

Yeah...let's all go green!

[savedbygrace]

I still have historicist friends in the ministry who say it will be a pope who will be the end times AC... they say historically it is the RCC and the pope who have sat in the holy places, put kings in power, changed times and laws, and blasphemed God on a constant basis....

I believe the pope is a type of AC, but will not be the final one. The Catholic church is losing too much power, money, members, and influence in the world. For one reason, its getting a bad image from all the priests who can't keep their flesh crucified to their sinful desires. The pope is into the ecumenical movement anyway, shaking hands with the Dalai Lama and the high priest of Islam and focusing on things in common and tolerance/acceptance of other's beliefs.

[GodsStudent]

Well, my flip answer to what one world religion looks like is "The Oprah Winfrey and Friends Show." Seems like the Catholic church is among her followers these days, too.

[plalgum]

[quote="savedbygrace"]I still have historicist friends in the ministry who say it will be a pope who will be the end times AC... they say historically it is the RCC and the pope who have sat in the holy places, put kings in power, changed times and laws, and blasphemed God on a constant basis....

I believe the pope is a type of AC, but will not be the final one. The Catholic church is losing too much power, money, members, and influence in the world. For one reason, its getting a bad image from all the priests who can't keep their flesh crucified to their sinful desires. The pope is into the ecumenical movement anyway, shaking hands with the Dalai Lama and the high priest of Islam and focusing on things in common and tolerance/acceptance of other's beliefs.[ /quote] The catholic church will regain its place by being reborn into a harlot,and fornicating with all the kings of the earth.Becoming a multi faith dog,it will appeal to all the kings as well.Harlots in the Bible are described as unmarried,so the RCC was never the bride of Christ.

[SueAnn]

I have heard several people talk about how the catholic church is losing money/power. I wonder why I can't see this happening? I live directly across the street from a huge catholic church. I see the comings and goings. Whatever else is going on, I can assure you that their population is GROWING. They asked for and received permission from our zoning commission for a variance to enlarge their preschool/daycare center...and it is packed. They have more services than ever and they are packed. Their fundraisers are bigger than ever. The parking situation around the church is even more miserable for those of us that live here...

What would it look lke if the church was actually prospering instead of losing power?

[Seeker]

Another thought on the subject is that we already have a one world religion, it is just manifested by different names. Look at all the different religions of the world and count how many people are in each.

Christianity: 2.1 billion
Islam: 1.5 billion
Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion
Hinduism: 900 million
Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
Buddhism: 376 million
primal-indigenous: 300 million
African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million
Sikhism: 23 million
Juche: 19 million
Spiritism: 15 million
Judaism: 14 million
Baha'i: 7 million
Jainism: 4.2 million
Shinto: 4 million
Cao Dai: 4 million
Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million
Tenrikyo: 2 million
Neo-Paganism: 1 million
Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand
Rastafarianism: 600 thousand
Scientology: 500 thousand

http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html

Of these there is only one group that names Jesus Christ as divine, Christianity. So in reality Satan already has 2/3 of the world under his religions. All that is left is to deal with Christians and Jews. We are vastly outnumbered already. If you are not with Jesus you are against him or on the other side.

(1Jn 2:22) Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

(1Jn 4:3) And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

(2Jn 1:7) For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Peace,
Seeker

[sparkly]

Christianity: 2.1 billion

While the list of religions is food for thought, this number is impossible to accurately know. Only God knows how many self-proclaiming Christians, and how many true followers of Christ, make up this number. I would imagine that we are even more outnumbered than this list shows.

[Seeker]

Hi sparkly,

What I found interesting about that number is that God states in the bible that He will bring 1/3 through the refining fire. 2.1 billion Christians is pretty close to 1/3 the current human population.

Zec 13:6 And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.
Zec 13:7 Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.
Zec 13:8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
Zec 13:9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.

Peace,
Seeker

[JR]

However I don't believe Islam could be the one-world religion because in Daniel 11:40 the AC is attacked by the king of the South (Saudi/Egypt-Islam?) and 'the blasphemous one who does according to his own will'' (vs 36) overthrows the kind of the South, simultaneously overtaking Glorious Land and many other countries (vs 41). This would not be hard to do, annihilating the Islamic armies, especially if the EU/USA merge together and the WEU (possible ten horns) has control/access to the US military equipment and troops for their disposal.

This assumes that the anti-Christ needs the whole Islam faith. Once he says you must worship him, there will be muslims that will object. The anti-christ does not need everyone to agree, he just needs control.

I do believe the false church is Islam. You want to unify, then eliminate dissent. Remember, in Islam your choices are become muslim or die. That will pretty much eliminate a dissenting point of view. Just view the Dearborn Michigan youtube video how muslims will lie and intimidate even on American soil.