re: Daniel 9:27

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re: Daniel 9:27

Postby watching on Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:44 am

This is unlike the previous verse, 9:26, which does indicate a large gap of time between the 69th and 70th weeks (Christ's crucifixion and the destruction of Jerusalem occur after the end of the 69th Week but before the start of the 70th Week). Also, if the first 69 years end with Christ's first coming and the 70th Week ends with His second coming, then there must be a gap of time between these two weeks.


Hi Holly,

In response to your reply above, I just wanted to say that I do not see any indication of a gap between the 69th and 70th week in verse 9:26.

In fact, I do not see a gap indicated until after the cutting off of the Messiah. Which according to scripture, occurs after sixty two weeks.

(If you add the first seven to the sixty two weeks, that would make it after 69 weeks.)

NOT AT THE END OF 69 WEEKS, BUT AFTER.

And since, mathematically, 70 comes after 69, that would place the cutting off of the Messiah in the 70th week.

I JUST DO NOT SEE ANY WAY AROUND THAT!

But don't take my word for it, see for yourself:

Daniel 9:24-27 (King James Version)

24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

25Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

26And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off
, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.


So, my question is, where do you see a gap between the 69th and the 70th week?

:dunno:

Holly wrote:I don't think Dan.9:27 gives us any indication of a time gap between the first half and second half of the 70th Week.


In reply to this, I would just like to say, that I also do not see an indication of a gap in Isaiah 61:2 either, for that matter, but we know that it must exist, because the day of vengeance of our God has not come yet; has it?

Isaiah 61:1-3 (King James Version)

Isaiah 61

1The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;

2To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;

3To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified.


edit:

Unless the word translated as "after" means something else in Hebrew.

:dunno:

In any case, here is the definition:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H310&t=KJV
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Re: re: Daniel 9:27

Postby Holly on Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:20 pm

Hi Watching,

Scripture tells us that 69 weeks will pass from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the coming of the Messiah (Dan. 9:25). Then, after the 69 weeks, the Messiah will be cut off, Jerusalem will be destroyed, and there will be a period of "war" and "desolations." This indicates a gap of time to me and to many biblical interpreters.

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Re: re: Daniel 9:27

Postby watching on Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:07 pm

Holly wrote:Hi Watching,

Scripture tells us that 69 weeks will pass from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the coming of the Messiah (Dan. 9:25). Then, after the 69 weeks, the Messiah will be cut off, Jerusalem will be destroyed, and there will be a period of "war" and "desolations." This indicates a gap of time to me and to many biblical interpreters.

Holly


Hi Holly,

This indicates a gap to me, as well.

The question is, does the gap begin upon the coming of the Messiah, or the cutting off of the Messiah?

What makes more sense to you?
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Re: re: Daniel 9:27

Postby Holly on Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:02 pm

Hi watching,

The way I read it is that the time gap will occur after the Messiah is cut off.

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Re: re: Daniel 9:27

Postby watching on Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:21 am

Hi Holly,

Great! Then we agree.

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