Now "O" is for Gay Marriage.

[drdos]

My question is if more than 50-60% of Americans are against Gay Marriage then why in a crucial election time would he do this? Does he know something we don't. Is he that arrogant to believe he will win no matter what?

"Almost every major news organization is salivating over Joe Biden's recent comments on gay marriage. It is the lead story on almost every news show and every newspaper. But if you look at the polling, more Americans support legalizing marijuana than they support gay marriage. Additionally, 80 percent of Americans support legalizing medical marijuana!!! So why does the media continue to ignore this issue? How come Obama has only received one question on the issue and he's been in office almost four years now"?

From gallup.com 10/17/2011
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/0 ... d%3D159238

[AndCanItBe]

I think this might be good news. He embraced the far left instead of the independents. The independents are going to be deciding the election probably.

[drdos]

I think this might be good news. He embraced the far left instead of the independents. The independents are going to be deciding the election probably.

Totally agree here, but ask this question are his handlers 1. That Stupid or 2. That Arrogant. T-Minus sorry Bro didn't mean to cut you off.

[Jericho]

:roll:

My question is if more than 50-60% of Americans are against Gay Marriage then why in a crucial election time would he do this? Does he know something we don't. Is he that arrogant to believe he will win no matter what?

I think so. I guess I'm not too surprised knowing all we do about Obama. Bidens comments probably forced him to say something. I know that when gay marriage is voted on by the people it's always been defeated, if only narrowly. But the gay lobby is powerful and Obama will go whichever way the political winds are blowing.

[AndCanItBe]

Totally agree here, but ask this question are his handlers 1. That Stupid or 2. That Arrogant.:

I am not inclined to think they are stupid. I would be more inclined to go with arrogance or even a desire to look stupid so they will be underestimated. I also wonder if it is neither and it is just the President who is so arrogant he doesn't listen to them.

[AndCanItBe]

I think in this particular situation that they may have cornered and their hand was forced by the gay agenda. They may have just cut off their nose to spite their face.

[SueAnn]

I think I heard that 30 states have now voted to ban same-sex marriage.

The only reason I can think of that would cause Obama to possibly alienate that many people is because he knows that the election will be lost/won on economic issues, not gay issues.

I guess he thinks his base support is so strong it can withstand a blow from any direction. Sadly, for reasons already discussed, I tend to agree with him.

[T-Minus?]

Now that our cup of national iniquity is topped off, can we be sure there will even be an election ? Or, if so, an inauguration? This is the first American president ever to endorse such an abomination. I don't think that even the corrupt Roman Empire ever even went as far. Woe, Woe, Woe!! Glad to see we were both watching drdos Maranatha

[kirthril]

:roll:

My question is if more than 50-60% of Americans are against Gay Marriage then why in a crucial election time would he do this?

To turn attention away from the economy. In other words, hes going to try to get Romney to focus on useless social issues rather than the issues that need to put america back on track: the economy, foreign policy, and energy. Pay attention to whats going on in the right hand, so you dont see the left (no pun intended). Good thing Romney has said he isnt going to give time to this issue. Gay marriage, isnt important right now. Fixing the economy is. Gay marriage wont win the election, wont create jobs, wont get buisnesses hiring, wont lower gas prices, wont bring the troops home. It is a complete non-issue to with whats at stake for the long term health of america. Fix Americas health first, then worry about the social issues.

I think I heard that 30 states have now voted to ban same-sex marriage.

32. And probably will grow. Also remember, in some of the states where it is legal, the state gov't went ahead and legalized it, even though the population was against it.

I guess he thinks his base support is so strong it can withstand a blow from any direction. Sadly, for reasons already discussed, I tend to agree with him.

I actually think his support base is dwindling. Did you see the democratic primary vote in West virginia? 40% voted against him, in favor of a inmate in texas. In other words, "Anyone but obama" vote. Very telling.

[Jericho]

[To turn attention away from the economy. In other words, hes going to try to get Romney to focus on useless social issues rather than the issues that need to put america back on track: the economy, foreign policy, and energy. Pay attention to whats going on in the right hand, so you dont see the left (no pun intended). Good thing Romney has said he isnt going to give time to this issue. Gay marriage, isnt important right now. Fixing the economy is. Gay marriage wont win the election, wont create jobs, wont get buisnesses hiring, wont lower gas prices, wont bring the troops home. It is a complete non-issue to with whats at stake for the long term health of america. Fix Americas health first, then worry about the social issues.

Ive seen this line of thinking before and while things like economy, jobs, etc. are important i don't believe we can ignore these moral issues. In fact I will say things won't get better as long as there is moral decay. Maybe all our problems with economy, social unrest, terrorism, etc. are the direct result of things like this.

[Exit40]

Hi kirthril. I agree. It's a useless issue, belongs to the states anyway, but I do smell a lot of money here, from the gay lobby and rich individuals. That is most likely why they ' came out '. Plus it forces the religious issue to the front with Mormonism and multiple wives in the extreme end. Perhaps a sideways attack to swing Christians away from Romney, some of them anyway. I remember O saying if he hasn't fixed the economy he would be a one term President. He is trying to distract us from remembering that statement.

God Bless You

David

[SueAnn]

I guess he thinks his base support is so strong it can withstand a blow from any direction. Sadly, for reasons already discussed, I tend to agree with him.

I actually think his support base is dwindling. Did you see the democratic primary vote in West virginia? 40% voted against him, in favor of a inmate in texas. In other words, "Anyone but obama" vote. Very telling.

My hubby agrees with you completely. A large percentage of his customers are black. Hubby claims he is hearing more and more blackpeople complaining about Obama.

I think that regardless of what hubby is hearing/seeing, the black folks in this town are not going to have their black president voted out of office without a peep.

[drdos]

Now that our cup of national iniquity is topped off, can we be sure there will even be an election ? Or, if so, an inauguration? This is the first American president ever to endorse such an abomination. I don't think that even the corrupt Roman Empire ever even went as far. Woe, Woe, Woe!! Glad to see we were both watching drdos Maranatha

[drdos]

[To turn attention away from the economy. In other words, hes going to try to get Romney to focus on useless social issues rather than the issues that need to put america back on track: the economy, foreign policy, and energy. Pay attention to whats going on in the right hand, so you dont see the left (no pun intended). Good thing Romney has said he isnt going to give time to this issue. Gay marriage, isnt important right now. Fixing the economy is. Gay marriage wont win the election, wont create jobs, wont get buisnesses hiring, wont lower gas prices, wont bring the troops home. It is a complete non-issue to with whats at stake for the long term health of america. Fix Americas health first, then worry about the social issues.

Ive seen this line of thinking before and while things like economy, jobs, etc. are important i don't believe we can ignore these moral issues. In fact I will say things won't get better as long as there is moral decay. Maybe all our problems with economy, social unrest, terrorism, etc. are the direct result of things like this.

YES right on

[GodsStudent]

[To turn attention away from the economy. In other words, hes going to try to get Romney to focus on useless social issues rather than the issues that need to put america back on track: the economy, foreign policy, and energy. Pay attention to whats going on in the right hand, so you dont see the left (no pun intended). Good thing Romney has said he isnt going to give time to this issue. Gay marriage, isnt important right now. Fixing the economy is. Gay marriage wont win the election, wont create jobs, wont get buisnesses hiring, wont lower gas prices, wont bring the troops home. It is a complete non-issue to with whats at stake for the long term health of america. Fix Americas health first, then worry about the social issues.

Ive seen this line of thinking before and while things like economy, jobs, etc. are important i don't believe we can ignore these moral issues. In fact I will say things won't get better as long as there is moral decay. Maybe all our problems with economy, social unrest, terrorism, etc. are the direct result of things like this.

YES right on

I agree. When we have Federal judges suggesting we take the 10 commandments and condense them down to 6, we should all be flipping out.....but we're not........Woe, Woe, Woe.......

[daffodyllady]

Just a thought... for some reason, I cannot remember ever seeing gay black people. Isn't the gay community predominantly white? And aren't blacks generally more traditional than the leftists that Obama tries to appease?

[GodsStudent]

Just a thought... for some reason, I cannot remember ever seeing gay black people. Isn't the gay co9mmunity predominantly white? And aren't blacks generally more traditional than the leftists that Obama tries to appease?

No daffodyllady, there are an extreme number of black gays. I live in SC and they are everywhere. My state has a higher % of blacks than some other states, and regions for that matter, and black gays are as predominant as white gays are. The population is only about 9-12% black for the US.

[daffodyllady]

Okay, here is something from the NY Times:

study... found that 14 percent of all same-sex couples were black...

from http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/07/politics/07gays.html
and...

Today, African Americans constitute about 13.5 percent of the total U.S. population.

from http://usa.usembassy.de/society-blacks.htm

so I guess I was not correct. As usual... open mouth, insert foot.

[GodsStudent]

Every one of my shoes has teeth marks
Seems This sin, like so many others, are a human condition. Depravity knows no boundaries.

[laney]

I feel Obama will will the election and I feel that when that happens, especially now with this issue, America's fate is sealed. I just pray I am wrong.

[laney]

i don't know for sure who wrote this but seen it on fb yesterday and thought it was sure worth re-posting:

Words of Encouragement

We are living in the days of Noah, and Sodom/Gomorrah, a time of abominations against God and his word. I know that Christian have a tendency to not talk politics, but we have an obligation to speak out against sin and those who commit sin. Christian will argue that we are judging, but in Matt 7: 16-20 says, "Ye shall know them by their fruits."

verse 17) says "Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit."

So we as Christian have an obligation to know them by their fruits. This applies to those in our inner circle of church, family and friends; and applies to those who have authority over us as local leader, and national leaders.

This brings me to what we as Christians have allowed to happen. You may say I did not have anything to do with what is going on in our nation today. Oh but yes we did as far back as allowing one woman, Madeline Murray, to take pray out of school, to our government not wanting and stopping nativity scenes in government buildings, taking off "In God We Trust," and the list goes on and on, up to the president endorsing of same sex marriages. God Help Us!

We have so called Christians that do not use the Bible as their road map to what they believe, again shame on you. If you disregard God's Holy Word as the inspired word of God you have nothing to base your Christian walk with God on.

Every year a new version comes out as new and revised, this is not new and revised it is watered down until in a few years, if the Lord tarries, the new and revised versions will not have anything to say about sin. It is happening now! We have so called Christian in Gay Churches; what are they using as their spiritual guide? It is not the King James version or any version I know that condones homosexuality. The very sin God destroyed Sodom/Gomorrah.

After 9/11 the presidents name alone should have sent shivers down the spines of every American, but instead we embraced him. We did not want to offend the muslum oil nations. And we did that by; saying we can not judge him by his name alone or his affiliation with Muslums. He has lied to this nation time and time again and we continue to make excuses for him. Shame on us as a nation!

Romans 1: 18-32 You need to read all of it but the part I want to focus on today is verses 26-28

26; For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27; And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28; And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

God has warned us of these days, God has written the truth for all of us to know the truth, but not only sinners, run from the truth but so do some Christians. Can a muslum be saved? Can homosexuals be saved? The answer is yes, if they turn from their wicked ways, but their actions and their true loyalties have to be to God, Jehovah. And that is not the case with the President; his loyalties have always been with the muslums, and he has proved that time and time again during his term. Now he has doomed our nation as it was in the days of Noah and Sodom/Gomorrah by endorsing same-sex marriages. He is the leader of this nation and God will hold this nation accountable for what our leaders are doing. Read the word of God about the nations that God brought down, it stemmed from the Ungodly Kings, and leaders of those nations.

When will we as Christians wake up and realize that we have to make a stand against these things that are coming into this world. If you are a true Christian and you read and believe that the word of God is the inspired words that came from God him self. Then you have to make a stand!

Some have the attitude that it is ordered by God to be this way, but we still have the obligation to not allow ungodly, abominations and sin to go on just because we think that this is the end. God's word never said at anytime for us to stop trying to do the right things, like standing against corrupt evil leaders, sin and ungodliness.