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Jericho wrote:I'm sure you'll get a big response with this one. We're stuck with Obama or Romney, one of the two will be the president for the next four years. Neither is ideal but one is far more dangerous to this country than the other IMO. My opinion is not voting or voting for a 3rd party is giving your vote to Obama, which will do more harm than good. Of course the choice is ultimately to you.
I don't believe it is necessarily wrong to note vote for a non-Christian, I can't think of any scriptures on the matter. It comes down to your own convictions and opinions on the matter. I think that if this nation had not turned so far from God Obama would not have been elected to begin with, but I guess we get the kind of leaders we deserve.
Im no big fan of Romney but he or ANYONE is better than Obama.. we need to get the Muslim out of America's Whitehouse..
1 Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.
I am not convinced that Romney will be any better for our country than Obama. Sorry if that upsets some of you folks, but a wolf who is disguised in sheep's clothing is just as bad or worse than the one who dresses like the wolf that he is.
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This great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been and are afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.
The goal of the Constitution Party is to restore American jurisprudence to its Biblical foundations and to limit the federal government to its Constitutional boundaries.
Q: Will I waste my vote if I support Constitution Party candidates?
A: In recent elections, millions of conservatives did not vote because neither of the major party candidates represented them. The number of voters not aligned with either the Republican or Democratic parties has grown every year. Currently, more and more principled voters simply will not cast a vote for the “lesser of two evils.” Also, strong third parties have historically influenced electoral outcomes by drawing crucial votes from Republican and Democratic candidates. In addition, issues such as the abolition of slavery, women’s suffrage and a balanced federal budget were introduced by third parties.
A person’s vote is truly wasted when he does not use it to express his actual beliefs. How can we expect to have principled leaders if we do not have a principled electorate?
A vote for the Constitution Party is a vote for the Constitution and an investment in America’s restoration.
But don't ask me who that write in would be?
SueAnn wrote:There are 2 verses in Scripture that I think of whenever I am feeling frustrated by a lack of Christian choices at election time...
"Render unto Ceaser that which is Ceaser's..." [Obey the laws of your land and be a good citizen. A large part of good citizenship in a Democratic Republic such as ours, is our responsibility to exercise our right to vote.]
"Pray for your leaders..." [Regardless of which candidate wins, we are to pray on their behalf.]
1Ti 2:1-3 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
[/quote]daffodyllady wrote:When Paul said to honor the king, who was the king at the time?
A rank heathen.
Therefore, I do not think it is dishonoring to God to choose between two heathens.
We are not voting for a pastor! Christians should not expect our government leaders to be pastor material.
For too long, Christians have been enmeshed with the government of the country, trying to take control of evil men by force. We are not called to relate to this world in that way! That worldview is carried over from a Dark Ages Catholic domination mindset.
daffodyllady wrote:Sword, I expected you to disagree with my post.
I don't take it personally.
But I still think I'm right.
mrgravyard49 wrote:Hum, Not sure about Ron Paul being a Christian.. DIdnt he help Romney get Herman Cain Kicked out of the running over phony Sex charges?
Sword of Geddon wrote:mrgravyard49 wrote:Hum, Not sure about Ron Paul being a Christian.. DIdnt he help Romney get Herman Cain Kicked out of the running over phony Sex charges?
Was that the source of that story? That is the first time I heard Ron Paul(and Romney for that matter) involved in that travesty back in November 2011.
Statement of Faith
“I have accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior, and I endeavor every day to follow Him in all I do and in every position I advocate.”
My faith is a deeply private issue to me, and I don’t speak on it in great detail during my speeches because I want to avoid any appearance of exploiting it for political gain. Let me be very clear here: I have accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior, and I endeavor every day to follow Him in all I do and in every position I advocate.
It is God Who gave us life. As He is free, so are those He created in His image. Our rights to life and liberty are inalienable.
I’m running for President of the United States because I believe that our traditions and way of life are under attack from an out-of-control federal government and reckless politicians who show no regard for what our Founders entrusted to our protection.
America became the greatest nation in human history because a dedicated band of Patriots believed their God-given rights were worth fighting for, even if it meant challenging the world’s most powerful nation in what many deemed a “hopeless” cause.
Being free meant so much to our forefathers that they put everything on the line – and thousands sacrificed their lives – to give the promise of liberty to not only their children and grandchildren, but to generations they knew they would never even meet.
Their courage and determination guaranteed they would defy the odds and achieve victory.
In this critical election, you and I must decide if the principles of limited government and personal freedom are worth fighting for once again.
Since I’m asking for your vote and your trust to lead this nation, let me tell you a little bit about my background and beliefs.
My parents raised my four brothers and me on a dairy near Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, where they set clear examples for each of us about faith, honest living, and individual responsibility. Their Christian values helped inspire two of my brothers to eventually enter the ministry, and provided me with the foundation I needed to practice medicine and one day become a U.S. Representative.
In addition to my time in Congress, I am proud to have delivered over 4,000 babies as a country doctor in Texas. As I trained to practice medicine, I became convinced without a doubt that life begins at the moment of conception. I never performed an abortion, and I never once found an abortion necessary to save the life of the mother. In fact, I successfully helped women struggling with their pregnancies to seek other options, including adoption.
I am running to Restore America Now, and by that I mean that it’s time to protect and promote the basic God-given rights inherent in the promise of America.
We must pass on our heritage of liberty to the next generation – not tens of trillions of dollars in debt and liabilities.
We must stand for life – not allow millions of innocent children to continue to be slaughtered with the government’s approval.
We must follow the Biblical mandate of using honest weights and measures – not printing money out of thin air in almost complete secrecy and then handing it over to oppressive dictators.
We must only send our men and women to fight for our country when the mission is clear, every necessary tool needed to win is provided, and we respect the Constitution by declaring war.
Once war is declared, it must be waged according to Just War principles. We should only fight when it’s in our national security interest, and we should no longer do the corrupt United Nation’s bidding by policing the world.
In Congress, I never vote for any piece of legislation that violates the Constitution’s strict limits on government power. I also do not participate in the congressional pension system.
As President, I give you my word that I will only exercise my authority within the confines of the Constitution, and I will work every day to rein in a runaway federal government by binding it with the chains of that document.
For my stands and beliefs, I am told that my efforts are “hopeless.” Like those who were proud to stand up for what they knew was right to create our nation, however, I firmly believe that now is a better time than ever before to reclaim our liberties. No situation is hopeless for those who receive their strength from their faith, family, and freedom.
And like those Patriots, I have no doubt that liberty will prevail.
I invite you to join me and millions of other Americans in taking our stand to honor our forefathers’ sacrifices and Restore America Now.
mrgravyard49 wrote:Ok, I guess he is a Christian.. But as far as him winning? He is looked at by Americans as a nut..
So we only have the 2 choices.. And I dont want a Muslim as a President..
mrgravyard49 wrote:Well, in truth it really doesnt matter. God is in charge and it looks like His Endtimes is here..Just look at the world economy the ME and how America has turned her back on God. In my mind, America is Done... Game Over..
Im just waiting on the Rapture...
My faith is a deeply private issue to me, and I don’t speak on it in great detail during my speeches because I want to avoid any appearance of exploiting it for political gain.
but I guess for me, I just got to a place where I concluded that there really aren't any viable MEN to vote for, and this is why the country (and the rest of the countries in the world) are in the predicament they're in.
Our country was founded by men who wanted to be free to worship the Lord freely. They went to great strides to write the Constitution and establish a free democracy....but in this day and time, the Constitution and the people it was meant to protect and serve are both being trampled underfoot.
It doesn't surprise me that we are in the end time and not having a choice for a MAN to vote for. We wrestle not against flesh and blood.....it's the spirit of the MEN in power and who they surrender their spirit to.......The entire election process, IMO, is a farce, and has been for some time. Of course, this will trample all over the egos of the patriots....but I guess I am too much more versed in what the end time scenario is about, who will rise to power, what the man of LAWLESSNESS will be like and about.....kind of hard for me to miss this playing out all around me at this point, and in the people in powerful places. I don't surrender to it....I submit to the patience and faith of the saints as described in Revelation 13 and 14.....I've stopped looking for a man who is going to turn this thing around....that's what the heathens are doing.
During a recent Fox News interview, Palin suggested "maybe it is a third-party run of Sarah Steelman that I can get behind."
Palin is scarcely twiddling her thumbs while sitting on the sidelines. Her endorsements of congressional candidates have built an army of supporters inside the Beltway.
"If Romney loses by a big margin there will be a move by center-leaning Republicans to recapture dominance," Ornstein said. "But you're not going to see a lot of conservatives saying 'we were wrong about this.' You're going to have another chapter in this ongoing struggle. There will be a vacuum, Sarah could fill that vacuum."
ThomasDGW wrote: So, that helped me to realize that we do not know what will happen, that God gives a people the leaders they deserve, that I can just rest my concerns on that, and that I no longer have to agonize and "hold my nose" to vote for the lesser evil.
ThomasDGW wrote:I heard a shocker once: When Hitler ran for chancellor, 80% of the Christians in Germany voted for him.
The question then is...Why? Is Obama the antichrist spoken of in the Bible? Or is that person to come.
mrgravyard49 wrote:Well, Yes none of the people to vote for are perfect. I compare them ALL to Ron Reagan. That Man LOVED God and ofcourse LOVED America. I see this country sliding downhill since he left office.. Sorry but I Still think unless he comes back to life and saves America, America is done.. Oh How I wish I was wrong but Loved Ones, LOOK at what is going on.. As in the days of Noah.
Jericho wrote:The question then is...Why? Is Obama the antichrist spoken of in the Bible? Or is that person to come.
I imagine that the AC will be a genius, he's able to get the world out of it's economic mess. He wins every military campaign. As Revelation asks who can make war with the Beast? This suggests someone with a superior intellect. He would have to be for the world to marvel after him. The thing about Obama is he's not particularity bright. Everything indicates he was a sub-par student who spent his past time doing recreational drugs, which is probably the reason his school records are sealed. Without his teleprompter he stumbles and stammers. He hasn't achieved much on his own merits, he's had alot of help getting into prestigious schools and political positions. So in his now infamous "You didn't build that" speech where he says "If you've been successful you didn't get there own your own" he's speaking from experience, everything has been done for him. The point I'm making is I don't think he's AC material. He may have the spirit of the AC but that's it. The fact that his luster from 2008 is starting to fade is just another indication to me of this.
Sword of Geddon wrote:I think your right..lets recap things though:
The A/C will:
-Abandon the faith of his father and forefathers in favor of a "god of forces"
-Declare himself above all that is called god and is worshiped
-Be a military genius, much like Alexander the Great, "Who can make war with him?"
-Be a stern-faced king.
-Be ruler of "the North"
-Be so charismatic and convincing in his speech that he deceives even believers(the elect) if possible.
-Get his power and authority from the devil himself.
-Possibly has Assyrian ancestry.
-Pretend to like Israel and have a treaty with them.
Is there any world leader that possesses all of these qualities?
Denise wrote:Sorry, but I have to disagree with you on a couple of points. But before I do, let me explain, I was in grade school in the eighties and LOVED Reagan as well, and still consider him the greatest president in my lifetime. BUT, to say "this country sliding downhill since he left office," is not really accurate, imho. Roe v Wade ocurred in 1971 and I don't remember Reagan making any big push in his eight years to reverse that. I also know that one of his promises in 1980 was to reverse the recently created Department of Education, which he didn't; and look how horrible our education system has declined since then. Also, I don't wish for Reagan to "come back to life and save America", I want CHRIST who IS ALIVE to come back and RULE as the KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
Love in Christ.
I'm sure if Ron Paul were president he would make his fair share of mistakes and have to compromise too.
If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals -- if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.
RONALD REAGAN, Reason Magazine, Jul. 1, 1975
He attracts anti-semetics
Ron Paul Would Stop aid to Israel:
Ron Paul would NOT help Israel if they needed help:
Ron Paul Opposes House Resolution Supporting Israel's Attack on Gaza. Which Recognizes "Israel's right to defend itself against attacks from Gaza" and supports a peace agreement...
He puts the constitution before Christ
If the cult-like behavior of Ron Paul's supporters is not a clear give-a-way to the nature of this man
The moral imperative says we should not cast a vote for a candidate who does not represent our beliefs. We will not see a change in the status quo as long as Americans continue to believe they’re "wasting" their votes by voting for someone who represents them.
Many "wasted’ their vote the last time, when they voted for Bush and then McCain. Remember, if we continue to repeat the same behavior expecting different results, then we are truly insane.
And the lesser of two evils is still…evil.
“How long do you think it will take to get the kind of government you believe in, so long as you keep voting for people who won’t support your views?”
Third party voters are discerning voters. They vote their convictions. They weigh the deeds of those competing for their vote rather than merely listening to their words. They understand that their vote is the currency of their political virtue and spend it wisely. They hold to the principle that “duty is mine; the results are in the hand of God.”
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