John Piper is Post-Trib

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John Piper is Post-Trib

Postby Finaldash on Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:18 pm

What a surprise!! he has to be the most well known theologian that is not pretrib.
Here's a link to a sermon he did back in 1988.
http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-lib ... f-the-lord
I also wonder since this was before prewrath, if he ever considered prewrath since then.
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Re: John Piper is Post-Trib

Postby Tevye on Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:30 pm

John Piper wrote: From a biblical standpoint, studying and thinking and knowing are never ends in themselves;
they always stand in the service of feeling and willing and doing.

The mind is the servant of the heart. Knowledge exists for the sake of love.

I like it, very poetic. :grin:
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Re: John Piper is Post-Trib

Postby Tevye on Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:42 pm

John Piper wrote:Knowing the Truth and Loving the Truth
Paul's answer at the end of verse 10 is that they refuse to love the truth
(literally: they did not welcome a love for the truth).
Notice: it is not merely an issue of knowing or believing
in a merely mental sense: it is an issue of loving.

Look at verse 12: " . . . so that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth
but had pleasure in unrighteousness." The opposite of believing the truth is delighting in evil.

And this means that saving faith—faith that will endure to the end through the affliction
now and through the apostasy to come—is not merely an accepting of truth but a loving of truth.
Verse 10: "They perish because they refused to love the truth."

We can be sure that when the man of lawlessness comes, his signs and wonders will be used
to support claims that appeal to our natural desires. Therefore the only defense against this appeal
will be a deeper desire for God. If Christ is our portion and our treasure, if he satisfies our longings,
and if we love the glory of his gospel, then the mystery of lawlessness will not overcome us,
and our love will not grow cold and we will endure to the end and be saved.
May the Lord grant us all to receive the love of the truth. Amen

Amen, wow.
Thank you, I needed that today.
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Re: John Piper is Post-Trib

Postby Finaldash on Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:13 pm

Teyve, if you enjoyed that one then you'll like this as well. Towards the end he mentions that Christians will suffer greatly in the hands of the Antichrist.
http://desiringgod.org/resource-library ... -of-christ

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Re: John Piper is Post-Trib

Postby pegmo on Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:46 pm

I think John is also a replacement theology guy....the Church takes over all the promises of Israel.
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