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1Co 15:35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
1Co 15:36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
1Co 15:37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:
1Co 15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
1Co 15:39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
1Co 15:40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
1Co 15:41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
1Co 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
1Co 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
1Co 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
1Co 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
1Co 15:48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
1Co 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
Joh 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
Joh 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
It was physical but so much more.
daffodyllady wrote:Therefore, we shall be like Him, in that we shall also take on spiritual bodies.
daffodyllady wrote:Since spirits have spiritual bodies
Ready1 wrote:Jesus post resurection (spiritual) body had nail prints and a scar/opening from the spear, and was touchable.
38) And He said to them, “Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? 39) See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.”
20) But now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who are asleep. 21) For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22) For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. 23) But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at His coming, 24) then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power. 25) For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. 26) The last enemy that will be abolished is death. 27) For He has put all things in subjection under His feet. But when He says, “All things are put in subjection,” it is evident that He is excepted who put all things in subjection to Him. 28) When all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, so that God may be all in all.
And the Father who sent Me, He has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form. - John 5:37
God is a Spirit: and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth.- John 4:24
8)Philip *said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” 9) Jesus *said to him, “Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10) Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works. 11) Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me - John 14:8-11
Isaiah 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
You seem to think that the word "body" has to mean physical. Earthly.
But 1 Corinthians 15 says there is an earthly body, and there is a spiritual body.
Therefore, "spirit" does not mean "disembodied."
To get an idea of what a spirit's body is like, all we have to do is look at what Jesus' body was like after he rose from the dead. Evidently, a spirit's body can appear and disappear as it chooses. (As do angels, both good and evil ones.) A spiritual body can dissolve from solid form, to melt through walls, and can then reappear in solid form...like Jesus appeared before Thomas, inviting him to touch his scars.
As far as scars in heaven... I think only Jesus will carry scars, to remind us of what He did for us. But we won't remember our own lives on earth
daffodyllady wrote:Isaiah 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
daffodyllady wrote:Because ONLY Jesus will be the ones carrying scars. We will praise Him forever for his sacrifice. Since we will not remember the former earth, those scars in Jesus' hands, feet, and side, are necessary, to remind us of what He did for us.
If the former things have past, and they will no longer be remembered - then I see no necessity of the scars in Jesus' hands or His Body to remain as a "reminder". After all what would be the purpose
This tells me the things we do in this life are important, so much so that God keeps a Book of Remembrance of our deeds (Mal 3:16).
I don't think God's keeping a book of remembrance of our sins and deeds.
We are after all judged on our works (1Co 3:13).
Jericho wrote: I believe the lessons and insights we learn in this life will stay with us and serve us for all eternity.
daffodyllady wrote:Maybe we aren't supposed to know yet about what kind of body Christ will have throughout eternity. Maybe that's to be revealed later, like a Christmas gift. If so, why poke at the wrapping, trying to guess?
Mr Baldy wrote:Because it's fun
Abiding in His Word wrote:So as believers we are working for rewards? Good deeds = rewards?
Just trying to get my mind around this.
each one’s work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one’s work, of what sort it is.
If anyone’s work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward.
If anyone’s work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire. (1Co 3:13-15)
MrBaldy wrote:I believe that your aforementioned statement goes contrary to Scripture Jericho. The things that we do and experience now will no longer be remembered or required. All things will be made new. The former things, and the way that we go about business as usual in this daily life will serve no purpose in the Eternal State.
Abiding in His Word wrote:We are after all judged on our works (1Co 3:13).
So as believers we are working for rewards? Good deeds = rewards?
Just trying to get my mind around this.
Keeping Alert wrote:Jesus appeared with scars and all for a purpose, just as he appeared as a lamb slain in Revelation for a purpose...
Keeping Alert wrote:I think using the phrase "Physical Body" gets everyone confused... I would rather use the phrase "Glorified Body"
Keeping Alert wrote:John did not mention Jesus with scars in Revelation...
Mr Baldy wrote:I want to pose a question to this forum.....
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Will Jesus always have a Glorified Body - even throughout Eternity?
Mark F wrote:My answer to your question is yes, I also think His wounds will be constant reminders of His love for us. Us having wounds or the sort would be for what reason? Some may have been gotten for noble and just causes but they pale in comparison to how He got His. He will be the center of our attention and what He did for us.
26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27 For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
My understanding is that this means Jesus Christ will remain as He is now for all eternity because of us for the Glory of the Father. The writer of Hebrews tells us in 13:8 "Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today, and forever.
"The New Heaven and Earth" - Revelation 21:1-6
1) Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea. 2) And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband. 3) And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is among men, and He will dwell among them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be among them, 4) and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away.” 5) And He who sits on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” And He *said, “Write, for these words are faithful and true.” 6) Then He said to me, "IT IS DONE"
I believe when Scripture indicates that Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever is referring to His Nature; Character and/or Essence - in that He does not change.
I believe when Scripture indicates that Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever is referring to His Nature; Character and/or Essence - in that He does not change.
Mr Baldy wrote:Yes, Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever - but this does not necessarily mean Physically. We know from Scripture that Jesus was not always Flesh - or have a Physical Body. (John 1) I believe when Scripture indicates that Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever is referring to His Nature; Character and/or Essence - in that He does not change.
“For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; And the former things will not be remembered or come to mind."
Here we are provided with an example when Christ creates "New Heavens" and a "New Earth". It states that the former things will not be remembered or come to mind. Well, through deductive reasoning, I believe that the evidence based on this statement would include anything that would remind of that Christ was crucified - meaning his nail prints; and/or scars. What would be the purpose? We will have already arrived.
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