Need some guidance on a vision

[searchlight71]

I'm pretty sure I understand this vision, and although I'm filled with excitement toward a duty I believe God is placing before me, I have my doubts, but I'm here to discuss my vision, it's interpretation, and what my charge is.


I'm not anybody that stands out of a crowd, in fact I blend right in. I suffer from loneliness, I have very few friends, but the Lord has blessed me with friends that honestly love me, so I'm not here to complain.

I've dabbled with many drugs since I was born again in March of '07, and the road has been twisted at times, but when the Lord does speak, I fear Him, and try to gain understanding so I may practice the life He has placed inside of me.

About two years ago, I had a vision, many people talk about "seeing flying dots" in their vision, and I can share in this odd phenomenon throughout my entire life. I don't always notice the lattice as it appears, but I'm beginning to believe it is some sort of veil that is protecting me from something, a truth that I desire to find sort to speak.

The vision started with my room at 2 am being very dark, and the flying dots around my sight as usual, the dots then changed to a magestic appearance, angels wings could be seen as the dots, and my room changed to a glowing pinkish white color. I could see in one corner of my room, the appearance of a lion at the head of an army, and in the other corner, a snakes head as the leader of an army, both were clashing against each other, and my body shook as I took bashings from the adversary. It was apparent that God and the devil were warring over my soul. Again, I'm not claiming to be any important figure, but the war over my soul was more than evident.

Just then, the dots formed on my right side two large pillars, which appeared as God's legs covered by a white robe, I couldn't look at the feet, or have no recollection of looking at the feet of this being, but I had the realization that this was God's throne, and I was before him , receiving judgment. The dots all came together to form a spiral staircase that seemed to go on forever, and just then I started walking. With each step, I was climbing up this ascending staircase of books, with a new book being opened with every step I took. Instantly, I knew these books were about me, all my thoughts, all my judgments, all my actions, good and bad. After I had taken a few steps, great fear seized over me, as I awaited the last book at the top of the staircase to be opened. I honestly thought I hadn't died, but that I was being judged and going to the depths of the pit. Well I reached the last book, and my fear was very intense, then a small voice inside of me told me not to fear, and that judgment had passed over me. That was the end of the vision.


Now for what I believe by personal conviction to be the interpretation of this vision. This was not a vision at all, I had gone through judgment, as some sort of representative for the church. I believe as a member of the church, I am a forerunner of Christ. Many of my talents and abilities were severely influenced by my ego, which I am now trying to silence. I believe that I may be Joshua, standing before the angel of the Lord, with Satan at my right hand accusing me with my filthy garments. At first I believed this was some sort of special treatment, and I didn't know why it was happening to me, but a small light is telling me this is how the whole church will escape judgment, as a brand plucked from the fire.

You see, no matter how hard we try, we cannot obtain perfection. We are born into a fleshly body, with a spirit, and it is true that these war against each other, I see this conflict all the time, whether it be through fasting, or God revealing to me the inner conflict of sin. I cannot do what I want to do because my flesh is sort of like the leaven that makes me puffed up in pride, yet the grace of God continues to shine down upon me, and lead me toward working out my salvation, not by works, but through servitude and understanding God's Word.


Now let me get to the reason for this post, it's not to gain glory for myself, because that is of nothing, it's to gain understanding, and hear input on what other Godly people have to say and relate to. Please don't make me as your enemy, I come not to steal and destroy, but to understand this walk of life a little better so I can be prepared for the duty and purpose God has called me out of the world to complete. I would appreciate your prayers and concerns for me finding out the truth, because one of my goals is to break out of sinful habitual nature, and be free in God's good grace. Thanks and I hope that you are blessed in this attempt to get to the truth.

[Abiding in His Word]

Hello searchlight71,

You are asking for guidance on a vision. I noticed you mentioned the word vision about 7-8 times in your post and then state this:

This was not a vision at all

That leaves me a bit confused, so may I ask for clarification? Was it or wasn't it a vision?

[4givenmuch]

searchlight71,
Thanks for sharing. I often feel the warfare- sometimes I feel like Jeremiah. Then for moments of "escape" as it is sometimes hard to see the struggle- I look for diversions- not sinful, but still somewhat vain compared to the intensity of the visions. Your vision is humbling and, yes, I relate. God is so much more holy and powerful than we can imagine. It is important to balance His holiness in our thoughts with His grace and mercy or truly we could be overwhelmed!

[mark s]

Hi Searchlight71,

I can't say anything about visions and such. All I know is that God speaks to His people in ways that they will understand. All things are to be tested according to Scripture.

You are right that salvation is purely God's grace, and it is God's grace that frees us, and leads us away from sin.

Titus 2
11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, 12 training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age, 13 waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, 14 who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works. 15 Declare these things; exhort and rebuke with all authority. Let no one disregard you.

You see, no matter how hard we try, we cannot obtain perfection. We are born into a fleshly body, with a spirit, and it is true that these war against each other, I see this conflict all the time, whether it be through fasting, or God revealing to me the inner conflict of sin. I cannot do what I want to do because my flesh is sort of like the leaven that makes me puffed up in pride, yet the grace of God continues to shine down upon me, and lead me toward working out my salvation, not by works, but through servitude and understanding God's Word.

[Resurrection Torchlight]

As one who has experienced some strange unexplainable phenomena myself, I think perhaps the Lord is opening your eyes to that struggle you spoke of- the struggle against the flesh. Climbing the stairway may represent your movement toward sanctification? I don't know for sure, but the Lord spoke to me through a dream in order to show me that I had not fully surrendered my flesh to him, I too had some bad habits I had to overcome. Not that I do not still sin, because I do all too often. But habitual sin is rebellion against God, and He wants us to relinquish it to Him. These habitual sins are not something you can overcome through self determination, but must be overcome by completely surrendering to His lordship over your fleshly desires. I do not know exactly how to explain it, but when the Lord showed me this in my own life, suddenly I knew that now I was able to actually do it, after years of struggling to overcome, He brought me to the place through that dream where I finally realized that it is only by submitting to Him fully that I could have victory,because it is only in His strength that we have that victory at all, He conquered sin and death for me. I am happy to report that in Him I have overcome the habits that at one time plagued me. It wasn't until I reached this place spiritually that the Lord began to really propel me in my understanding of scripture. If you had known me five years ago you would never believe that I was the same person spiritually speaking.

I personally believe that the Lord is working over time ( if such a thing could be said of God)- disciplining and maturing His children during these days we are now in . For thirty years I was a spiritual infant and through the phenomena I experienced He helped me get over the hurdle that was holding me back in my spiritual development. The days are growing short I think, and the Lord is busy completing the work He has begun in each of us, some need extra prodding through these supernatural efforts. Others require other means, perhaps trials and difficulties- I see so many people having their crutches knocked out from under them. ( I guess I needed both ) He wants us to stand strong in Him- to trust in Him alone and not in ourselves or in others to propel us on the path to sanctification. We are all like Joshua aren't we? Jesus clothes us with the robe of salvation, He cleanses us and purifies us through the work of the Holy Spirit. Spiritually we have to put on Christ daily, we have to put on that robe that He has given us so freely by dying to self and living according to the Spirit, but one day it will be a physical reality as well- we will be clothed in the heavenly raiment of His perfect righteousness when we stand before Him in that heavenly throne room.

Until then He wants us to bear fruit for His glory- He wants us to testify to others of Him and His word to influence others toward Him and toward salvation in Christ- we will not be effective at it while we are subdued by habitual sin. The enemy would like for us to continue in the habits of the flesh because it renders us ineffective, this is the battle you saw. You will only reach the top when you fully realize that without repentance you will not progress to where the Lord wants to take you on the path toward sanctification which has as its result the effect of bearing fruit in our lives. True repentance will only happen when you relinquish control of your flesh to Christ and place yourself fully under His Lordship.

God bless

RT

[searchlight71]

thanks RT for the message, I didn't bother reading the other messages because I'm embarrassed about this thread. i don't know why God would ever select me for the job of prophesying/witnessing on a large scale, and it appears I should humble myself. This past week has really been tough on me, I'm not understanding my purpose and I feel like I'm lost again. I am just afraid if I ever get taken back to the judgment seat, I will not have remembered my charge and will have failed myself to God somehow. I'm a brokenhearted loser, who can be hypocritical and cowardly, now how and why would God ever select me to bring so many people back to him, I'm like the worst example of a city on a hill there is besides politicians in america.

[searchlight71]

Hello searchlight71,

You are asking for guidance on a vision. I noticed you mentioned the word vision about 7-8 times in your post and then state this:

This was not a vision at all

That leaves me a bit confused, so may I ask for clarification? Was it or wasn't it a vision?

In the general, this could be viewed as a vision. To me personally, the amount of fear, the realization of what was going on seemed like I was literally at the judgment seat. I was well aware of the cosmic warfare between God and His angels, and the adversary. It was a vision in it's sense that it took me from my body somewhere else, but I feel like the only similarity between this phenomena and a vision was that it was as a warning, it just seemed real.

[searchlight71]

please just pray for me, i need help from God and from people that care

[burien1]

Never forget how much God loves you.

[drdos]

[Resurrection Torchlight]

searchlight71, do not be embarrassed, the Lord is working in you to cause spiritual growth, that is a terrific thing, something to praise Him for- a cause for joy!

James 1:2-4
2 Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials,
3 knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance.
4 And let endurance have its perfect result, so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.

I will certainly pray that the Lord will grant you peace during this current trial, and that you will reap the benefit of added endurance to keep on keepin' on!!! Keep in the word, in prayer- do not give up!!! The Lord has promised to work all things together for good, and that He will complete the work He has begun in you!

RT

[plalgum]

I'm not anybody that stands out of a crowd, in fact I blend right in. I suffer from loneliness, I have very few friends, but the Lord has blessed me with friends that honestly love me, so I'm not here to complain.

I've dabbled with many drugs since I was born again in March of '07, and the road has been twisted at times, but when the Lord does speak, I fear Him, and try to gain understanding so I may practice the life He has placed inside of me.

Listen Brother,the above quote speaks for it self, your trying to hard! maybe feeling a sence of self loathing,trying to hard to please the Lord.
Your yearning sub concious is creating these visions,a residue of your mind expanding drug expriences,take no notice of them,you are not a prophet and there is no great burden or responsibility thrust upon you by God,you are just a babe in Christ,enjoy your life and quit worrying about what your next step will be.Take one day at a time,and be your self and not as you percive others think you should be.
In my experience.modest people are lost in the crowd,remember proverbs "empty vessels make the most noise"Just remember that we are all a work in progress and if you fail like we all do, just resolve your self to do better next time.
Forget about the visions!

[Tevye]

Yesterday I had a very clear and well organized dream
which is a very rare experience for me, usually
my dreams are random and easily forgotten
but not this one...

It was evening, just my wife and I in the yard looking up at the stars.
All of a sudden I noticed a roundish cluster of bright stars (about 20 or 30)
moving together westward away from the area around the constellation Orion.
I could see that the stars were descending closer to the Earth in our direction.
We kept watching as the stars grew closer and closer as low clouds often do.
When they descended close enough, we could clearly see that they were not stars
and that they had human form. There was a pale greenish gray glow about them.
When they reached a point in the lower atmosphere the cluster group seperated
and continued downward in different directions. At that point in the dream
I looked back up at the sky and noticed that way higher up in space
many more clusters of bright stars appeared and followed
the path downward towards Earth.
I remember looking over to my wife and saying "let's go inside."
When in the house I went right to another door, possibly
the back door of the house. (and it was strange because
we don't have any doors like this one I saw in my dream.)
The door had a mid sized window in it with a double curtain.
Peeking through the curtain the grayish green light grew brighter
and suddenly one of the figures, like a female with long light color hair
was right outside there intently looking right in at me. I opened the curtain more
and there it was, not ugly or malformed just pale and curious like with the face of a child.
It kept tilting it's head slightly as in wonder of who I was, as if I wasn't suppose to be there.
Or maybe it was looking for someone else...I don't know. What I do know is I had the feeling
that it no longer cared that I was not familiar to it and kept getting closer to the outside of the window.
At this point I was saying the name of the Lord to it, over and over. Yeshua, Yeshua, ... then I remember
it kept looking in with great intent as if I would flinch and welcome it in, still... "Yeshua, Yeshua..."
I remember choosing to say Jesus once and it moved right up to the glass and pressed against it.
With it's eyes squinched peering right at me, like it was thinking... "Really?" So I repeated
"Yeshua, Yeshua" ...not loudly or anything fearful, as I pointed away from the home...
It backed up a bit, but continued to look in. I remember that I kept saying Yeshua
but this time I was pointing at my forehead. (as if I was indicating some type of seal
or indication that the Spirit of the Lord was upon me 'as a deposit' for the master Yeshua)
It peered upward to my head, and swiftly turned away down the path away from the home.
In my dream I remember saying to my wife, how I needed to tell others 'online' here...
that 'it's here' (that...the great tribulation has begun?)
Then the dream ended
and I woke up.

So there ya go, fwiw...

To God be the glory for clear revelation, visions and dreams.
My wife told me (in the real world) that I should share this,
I was hesitant, but I trust her wisdom... :o)
Maybe this is something that would happen just before the great tribulation begins...?

[Abiding in His Word]

Thank you for sharing your very vivid dream, Tevye. Dreams normally involve symbols familiar to you, but not exact replicas of your very own, lest you focus on the intent of the dream as an action you must take rather than the overall message being conveyed.

and it was strange because
we don't have any doors like this one I saw in my dream

And often the meaning will continue to unfold as the Lord reveals it. Some have multifaceted purposes and/or messages. But one thing is certain, those dreams from the Lord will stay firmly planted in your memory for retrieval for a time it's needed.

[Tevye]

It's interesting, the door part.

I was thinking about the dream this morning
and just thought about the passover story.
How the blood upon their doorposts and lintel
(as seen here in Exodus 12)
is like how we in the time of tribulation (are)
and will be covered with Christ's blood
how in Him we deter the enemy's minions.
If we will continue to keep our focus upon Him we see
we have His strength and His authority all around us.
There are difficult days ahead, yet, there is hope
we can remember when it gets really, really tough
that God is for us, and not against us.
His love endures forever.