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Which tribe is America from?

Postby 1withJesus on Tue Jan 27, 2004 3:53 pm

I am trying to trace down the genealogy of the U.S. Can anybody help who would know which tribe of the twelve tribes of Israel we are from? I think I have it narrowed down to Manasseh. Is this correct? Also, what happened Dan, son of Jacob, and why isn't he listed as one of the listed twelve in Rev. 7:5? Did he die without offspring and Manasseh took his place? I'm fairly new to in-depth bible study<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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Re: Which tribe is America from?

Postby Bascababy on Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:45 pm

We are made up of so many different nationalities and cultures, I don't think it is possible to say that America is from a specific tribe of Israel. We are the "mutts" as a whole. <!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0903/lachen/laughing-smiley-017.gif"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>
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This is just my opinion, not based on any solid facts. Does anyone else have a concrete answer to this? I'd be interested if there was one. <br>
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RE: Mutts R Us,

Postby 1withJesus on Tue Jan 27, 2004 8:09 pm

Hey, that's kinda catchy!<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :b --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":b"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> Maybe what I'm trying to find is the name of the tribe as it relates to our founding fathers; english anglo-saxons. Are these from the tribe of Manasseh? Not being racist here but just relating our historical roots to maybe one tribe. I do consider that "now" we are a mix of all tribes, but I'm trying to find a specific biblical reference to our country. I have heard the U.S and Britian as "The nations of Israel" and I want to see if and how they are referenced in ancient terminology. My primary interest here is the nations mentioned in Ezekiel 38 such as the merchants of Tarshish or one in Ezekiel 39:6 that mentions a people or tribe who live in security in the coastlands. <br>
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Re: RE: Mutts R Us,

Postby Bascababy on Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:04 am

Mutts R Us sounds like a place my kids would want to shop.<br>
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I wish I had more time for studies like these, but I am so maxed out right now. This may be a really dumb idea, but have you tried maybe one of those ancestor programs? I know that is a stretch, but maybe it can give you a starting point. <!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0903/fragend/confused-smiley-013.gif"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Which tribe is America from?

Postby orangemailman on Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:48 pm

Jim-<br>
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I see America (the United States) as being a Gentile nation. There are children of Israel living in our midst, but for the most part, we are a Gentile nation. The only nation that can truly claim to be Israel, is Israel. <br>
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Many people are wondering where the twelve tribes of Israel are. The final phases of Israel as a nation in the Bible consisted of Israel being divided into two kingdoms. The northern kingdom was referred to as Israel, Samaria, and occasionally Ephraim. The southern kingdom was referred to as Judah. The northern kingdom was judged by God first, scattered by Assyria (II Kings 17). The southern kingdom, several generations later, was judged by God and carried into captivity by Babylon (II Kings 25).<br>
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Ezekiel has an interesting prophecy that many people overlook. Ezekiel prophesies this after the fall of Jerusalem. (Ezekiel 33:21) The prophecy in Ezekiel 37:15-28 should be read by all who claim they are looking for the missing tribes of Israel. While both kingdoms were in captivity, Ezekiel prophesied that the LORD would transform both kingdoms back into one kingdom. <br>
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Some of the language in the passage shows that some aspects of this prophecy will not be fulfilled until Christ comes again. But when the children of Israel were returning to Jerusalem after their seventy years captivity (Jeremiah 29:10,11; Daniel 9:2; II Chronicles 36:20-23) all tribes were represented in Jerusalem at that time, to partially fulfill what Ezekiel has promised. This is proven by the Chronicler establishing lineages in the beginning of his book.<br>
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I and II Chronicles (originally one book), were written after the captivity, as those who still believed in the God of Israel were returning to Jerusalem. If you take on the tedious task of reading I Chronicles chapters 1 through 9, you find out who was returning to Jerusalem after the captivity. These lineages were written so that everyone might have proof of who they were as a child of Israel.<br>
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All twelve sons are named, and very specifically, Judah, Simeon, Reuben, Gad, Levi, Issachar, Benjamin, Naphtali, Manasseh and Ephraim (both sons of Joseph), Asher, all have their descendants traced further than any other book in the Bible traces them. This shows that all tribes were being gathered to Jerusalem and the surrounding areas at that time.<br>
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Where is America in the Bible? I don't believe we are represented in the Bible by any of the tribes of Israel. We will be one of two kinds of nations. Either we will gather together against Israel and their Messiah at the end, or we will fear the God of Israel and know that those who march against them are marching to their doom. Psalm 2 and 110. <br>
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I'm open to hearing other views on the twelve tribes though.<br>
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Tribe of Dan

Postby Ragnarok on Fri Jan 30, 2004 9:24 am

I've heard speculation about the US being from Dan.<br>
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Info on the Lost Tribe of Dan here:<br>
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