Mr Baldy wrote:In Closing..........if I appear to be "flip flopping" on this issue as Jay Ross has mentioned - then I am guilty. Because I don't have the answers. That is why I ask specific questions to learn and understand. I love Truth - and despise Deception. For the record, I don't think that ANYONE on this Forum is purposely trying to mislead any other Believer. The problem I have with this particular topic is that the evidence speaks on both sides of the issue. Especially Daniel 9:27 where there appears to be Two different Players. The One who stops the Sacrifice and Offering certainly appears to be very different from the Desolator which shall come.
Mr B.
This paragraph that you wrote above is so beautiful and pleasing to read. These things you mention are true, the scriptures that we are discussing were written in such a way as to Double-cross God's enemies who would Have Christ Crucified. Eventually God Himself will Allow that Final Revelation of His Will. The TIMING of That Revelation is tied to Chapter 12..and these words....
4 But thou, O Daniel,
shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
5 Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.
6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?
7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and
sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
He "Sware by Him that Liveth"....Sound Familiar? (Read Genesis 22:16,Revelation 10:6,and Hebrews 6:13)
And also Mr. B., did you read these following words that I posted earlier....
shorttribber wrote:This is so very true David, and something that is not usually considered when we examine the design of Daniel 9.So incredible it is that Daniel was able to use the kind of, can I call it sneaky design, to hide Messiah within the critical parts of the text.So beautiful and so cleverly done.
I will be back later to answer those questions you have Mr. B.

The Wisest men have changed their Counsels and Resolves upon second thoughts, much more upon experience, and approaching evils not at first discovered. Rev. Herbert Croft, 1675
Where no counsel is, the people fall: but in the multitude of counsellors there is safety.
Find seven years of tribulation plainly stated in the Bible.