Turkey : Part Four

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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Ready1 on Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:29 pm

Hi David,

Just trying to understand...are you saying Matt 24 and Zech 12 also apply to Ezekiel's war?
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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Exit40 on Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:08 am

Ready1 wrote:Hi David,

Just trying to understand...are you saying Matt 24 and Zech 12 also apply to Ezekiel's war?


Hi Ready1. It is my belief they are all the battle of Armageddon. I understand you believe differently. Would you like to discuss this ?

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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Ready1 on Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:04 am

Exit40 wrote:
Ready1 wrote:Hi David,

Just trying to understand...are you saying Matt 24 and Zech 12 also apply to Ezekiel's war?


Hi Ready1. It is my belief they are all the battle of Armageddon. I understand you believe differently. Would you like to discuss this ?

God Bless You

David


Hi David, I was just seeking information since I would not use either of these passages to support the premises of Ezekiel's war.

Do you really think that we could come to any agreement if we did discuss it? :grin: :grin: :grin: :wink:
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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Exit40 on Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:11 am

Ready1 wrote:
Hi David, I was just seeking information since I would not use either of these passages to support the premises of Ezekiel's war.

Do you really think that we could come to any agreement if we did discuss it? :grin: :grin: :grin: :wink:


Who knows ??? Scripture has that funny way of revealing the Truth, even to one that is not listening. Which could be either one of us honestly. I haven't had this discussion for some time, might be good to refresh and renew my thoughts about it. As I recall the last time I went in depth I got sidetracked by extra Biblical info that served to confirm many of my beliefs, and backed up the Scriptures also. I'd have to hunt down all my research which is somewhere around here. Up to you though Brother.

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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Exit40 on Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:13 am

Palestinians in Turkey: What Erdogan Says vs. What Erdogan Does
by Khaled Abu Toameh June 5, 2020 at 5:00 am

While Erdogan is paying lip service to the Palestinian cause and praising Hamas, which is designated as a terrorist group by the US, EU, Canada and Australia, Palestinian refugees who fled to Turkey from Syria are complaining of discrimination and mistreatment by the Turkish authorities.

According to Palestinian sources, there are about 10,000 Palestinian refugees in Turkey who are suffering from discrimination and living in dire conditions.

The suffering of the Palestinian refugees fleeing Syria begins the moment they arrive at the border with Turkey, Thuri Tamim, a Palestinian refugee, told the Palestinian Refugees Portal, an independent website covering news related to Palestinian refugees.

If Erdogan really wants to help the Palestinians, he can start by ordering his government to stop arresting and harassing Palestinian refugees. If he really wants to help the Palestinians, he can stop playing host and cash cow to Hamas, a terrorist group that has brought nothing but misery to Palestinians and Israelis alike....

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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Ready1 on Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:05 pm

Exit40 wrote:
Ready1 wrote:
Hi David, I was just seeking information since I would not use either of these passages to support the premises of Ezekiel's war.

Do you really think that we could come to any agreement if we did discuss it? :grin: :grin: :grin: :wink:


Who knows ??? Scripture has that funny way of revealing the Truth, even to one that is not listening. Which could be either one of us honestly. I haven't had this discussion for some time, might be good to refresh and renew my thoughts about it. As I recall the last time I went in depth I got sidetracked by extra Biblical info that served to confirm many of my beliefs, and backed up the Scriptures also. I'd have to hunt down all my research which is somewhere around here. Up to you though Brother.

God Bless You

David


If you would like to explain why you believe that Armageddon and Ezekiel's war are one and the same, I will be glad to listen. I may even make an occasional comment or ask an occasional question.
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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Exit40 on Sat Jun 06, 2020 6:28 am

Ready1 wrote:If you would like to explain why you believe that Armageddon and Ezekiel's war are one and the same, I will be glad to listen. I may even make an occasional comment or ask an occasional question.


This topic gets really involved, many Scriptures to post, and without relative discussion it seems almost not worth the effort at this point, considering a computer crash took most of my research with it. But, I will get started on a few things and see where it goes.

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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Exit40 on Sat Jun 06, 2020 6:33 am

Global Opinions
A message from Turkey: Americans, the counterrevolution might be around the corner
(Jonathan Newton/The Washington Post) By Asli Aydintasbas June 5, 2020 at 11:23 a.m. PDT

Social media users in Turkey are obsessively following the protests sweeping across the United States against the police killing of George Floyd, and not just because of President Trump’s dismal response — amid more than 100,000 deaths from covid-19 — has an ominous end-of-the-empire feel.

Turks are focused on the U.S. demonstrations because of the eerie similarities to the Gezi uprising of 2013, when plans by Turkish then-Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan to tear down a public park and build a mall in downtown Istanbul, along with plans to restrict alcohol sales and promote religious education, sparked the most powerful urban unrest generations of Turks had witnessed.

For weeks, protesters from diverse segments of Turkish society gained control of downtown Istanbul under the slogan “resist.” Erdogan’s provocative statements did not help. Police violence against demonstrators, including the killing of 19-year-old Ali Ismail Korkmaz, triggered an even bigger avalanche across the country. It was a summer of protests, with singing, shouting, barricades and tear gas every day.

I don’t want to make facile comparisons here. Trump and Erdogan share many traits, but there are also major differences between the two men. Turkey has never been a strong or stable democracy, for starters....

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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Exit40 on Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:01 am

Libya: The battle for Tripoli explained in 600 words
Counteroffensive by GNA sees rival forces of eastern-based Khalifa Haftar withdraw to pre-April 2019 lines.
by Ramy Allahoum 21 hours ago

After 14 months and hundreds of lives lost, renegade military commander Khalifa Haftar's attempt to seize Tripoli and become Libya's ruler is effectively over....

... Al Jazeera takes a quick look at the collapsed offensive and what lies ahead for the oil-rich North African country. ...

Highlight re Turkey...

But the push stalled in the face of strong resistance, with the battle lines remaining largely fixed until a series of military victories in recent weeks by the Turkish-backed GNA's forces....

Haftar is supported by the United Arab Emirates, Egypt and Russia, while the Tripoli-based administration of Prime Minister Fayez al-Sarraj is supported by Turkey....

Turkey stepped up its intervention after signing a maritime demarcation deal with the GNA late last year to begin oil and gas exploration in the resource-abundant eastern Mediterranean....

Russia and Turkey have engaged in a flurry of diplomatic activity to secure a ceasefire and reap dividends from their military investment....

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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Ready1 on Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:54 am

Exit40 wrote:
Ready1 wrote:If you would like to explain why you believe that Armageddon and Ezekiel's war are one and the same, I will be glad to listen. I may even make an occasional comment or ask an occasional question.


This topic gets really involved, many Scriptures to post, and without relative discussion it seems almost not worth the effort at this point, considering a computer crash took most of my research with it. But, I will get started on a few things and see where it goes.

God Bless You

David


It would probably be good to start a new thread in the debate section or the questions section, something like: Ezekiel's War/Armageddon or Ezekiel's War vs Armageddon.
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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Exit40 on Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:51 am

"You Are Finished!": Turkey's Growing War on Christians
by Raymond Ibrahim June 7, 2020 at 5:00 am

When pretexts cannot be found, assailants sometimes resort to other tactics. In an apparent attempt to conceal the online presence of at least one church, for instance, authorities labeled its website "pornographic," and blocked it.

"[T]his hateful environment did not emerge out of nowhere. The seeds of this hatred are spread, beginning at primary schools, through books printed by the Ministry of National Education portraying Christians as enemies and traitors. The indoctrination continues through newspapers and television channels in line with state policies. And of course, the sermons at mosques and talk at coffee houses further stir up this hatred." — Uzay Bulut, Ahvalnews.com., March 16, 2020.

Just what, then, do so-called "radical" Muslims... regard as the "proper" treatment of Christians?...

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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Exit40 on Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:53 am

Ready1 wrote:
It would probably be good to start a new thread in the debate section or the questions section, something like: Ezekiel's War/Armageddon or Ezekiel's War vs Armageddon.


There might already be one like that. I'll take a look when I am not so rushed. We might consider including Isaiah 17 also, and a few others that seem to be linked to the Day of the Lord battles culminating in Armageddon.

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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Exit40 on Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:36 am

Libya's war: Erdogan says 'agreements' reached with Trump
Turkish president says there could be a 'new era' in the Libyan conflict following a phone call with his US counterpart.
3 hours ago

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said "some agreements" have been reached with his US counterpart Donald Trump that could herald a "new era" in the conflict in Libya.

Turkey supports the internationally recognised government of Fayez al-Sarraj, whose forces have in recent weeks driven back an assault on the capital, Tripoli, by the forces of renegade commander Khalifa Haftar.

While the US officially supports Libya's UN-recognised Government of National Accord (GNA), Haftar is supported by Washington's allies - Egypt, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), France, and Saudi Arabia - as well as Russia.

"After our call this evening, there could be a new era between the US and Turkey regarding the (Libya) process," Erdogan told state broadcaster TRT on Monday....

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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Exit40 on Tue Jun 09, 2020 7:41 am

Russia raises stakes with 'brazen' military intervention in Libyan conflict
By Tim Lister, Sam Kiley and Sebastian Shukla, CNN
Updated 9:35 AM ET, Tue June 9, 2020

(CNN)The voice behind the camera rings with falsetto glee as the frame fills with the remains of an aircraft, its wings burned and skeletal, its jet engine slumped in the wreckage.

"Our rocket did that ... this is their plane," the Libyan fighter yells.
He was standing in what remained of the strategically important al Watiya airbase, near the Tunisian border. Militia affiliated with the UN-recognized government had just overrun the base; forces loyal to renegade general Khalifa Haftar had fled.

Among Haftar's retreating fighters were dozens of Russian mercenaries hauling their Pantsir air defense systems with them. They are part of a larger force of some 2,000 Russians belonging to the private Russian military contractor Wagner, which has been in Libya since 2018....

Snip... Beyond the Libyan context, AFRICOM told CNN: "If Russia is allowed to effectively shape the ultimate result of the Libya conflict, the US, and especially NATO and Europe, will not like the outcome."...

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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Exit40 on Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:08 am

Erdogan and Trump Form New Bond as Interests Align
Relations between President Trump and President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey have long blown hot and cold. For the moment, they are finding common cause.
By Carlotta Gall June 10, 2020

ISTANBUL — Relations between President Trump and his Turkish counterpart, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, were in the worst state anyone could remember 10 months ago, veering toward armed clashes between their armies across the Syrian-Turkish border, while Mr. Trump threatened to annihilate Turkey’s economy.

But these days, as the coronavirus threatens recession and rallies their opponents, both men are under pressure at home, with not many friends abroad, and may feel the need of some friendly comfort. This week, according to the Turkish account, they shared a few jokes during a phone call.

“To be honest, after our conversation tonight, a new era can begin between the United States and Turkey,” Mr. Erdogan said during a television interview afterward on Monday.

Relations between the two leaders have long blown hot and cold. But their stars have aligned for the moment, with the interests of Turkey and the United States converging on several of the biggest issues that had driven them apart in recent years....

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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Exit40 on Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:14 am

JUNE 12, 2020 / 6:53 AM / UPDATED 21 HOURS AGO
Turkey slams 'propaganda machine' Twitter over removal of accounts

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Turkey fiercely criticised Twitter on Friday for suspending more than 7,000 accounts that supported President Tayyip Erdogan, saying the company was smearing the government and trying to redesign Turkish politics.

Twitter said it was taking down 7,340 accounts from a network detected early in 2020 that it said was being used to amplify political narratives favourable to Erdogan’s AK Party.

“(This) has demonstrated yet again that Twitter is no mere social media company, but a propaganda machine with certain political and ideological inclinations,” said presidency communications director Fahrettin Altun.

In a written statement, he added that allegations these were “fake” profiles designed to support the president and were managed by a central authority were untrue....

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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Exit40 on Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:49 am

Powers Play with Fire in Libya
by Amir Taheri June 14, 2020 at 4:00 am

Cameron's friends tell me that he and Sarkozy were both pushed into the Libyan adventure by then US President Barack Obama who wished to test his "leadership from behind" theory which, in turn, flattered the European midgets.

Libya is currently the largest theater of proxy wars in the Greater Middle East. More foreign powers are involved in the Libyan proxy war than in Syria.

According to Moscow sources, Russian President Vladimir Putin hopes to gain a pause-and-resupply base for his navy on Libya's 1,770-kilometer-long Mediterranean coast to complement the aero-naval base he has obtained in Tartus, Syria.

The second reason why this mini-world war is worthy of attention is that Libya, with the longest shoreline on the Mediterranean, is also neighbor on land to six countries, all of which could be destabilized or worse. It is no surprise that, thanks to Egyptian efforts, the Libyan dossier is slated to come up in the African Union as a threat to security across the continent.

A series of seesaw battles, in some of which Haftar's forces scored tactical gains, has shown that without military intervention by a bigger player, neither side is able to kick the other out of the game.... The prospect of Libya being Syrianized must be taken seriously....

Snip... Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan tries to justify all that by pointing to more than $30 billion in Turkish investments in Libya under Gaddafi, when almost a million Turks worked there. Though Gaddafi had granted Libyan citizenship to many Turks, most immigrants returned home after his fall....

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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Exit40 on Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:15 am

Deciphering Bidenese
by Daniel Pipes
June 15, 2020 at 4:00 am

There is a brand-new game: decipher the rhetoric of Joe Biden...

The game he has inspired has two simple rules: (1) prune the gibberish and (2) add what is needed to make sense.

Whatever the impetus, should Biden win in November, let us hope he has sufficient influence on his own administration to implement this sound policy on Turkey....

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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Exit40 on Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:38 am

Russia, Turkey put off talks expected to discuss Libya and Syria
No new date announced for talks that were scheduled to take place in Istanbul on Sunday and Monday.
14 Jun 2020

Russia and Turkey have postponed ministerial-level talks that were expected to focus on Libya and Syria, where the two countries support opposing sides in long-standing conflicts.

Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu and his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov decided to put off the talks during a phone call on Sunday, the Turkish Foreign Ministry said.

"The two countries' deputy ministers will continue contacts and talks in the period ahead. Minister-level talks will be held at a later date," the ministry said in a statement....

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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Exit40 on Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:30 am

Jun 15, 2020
Turkey’s economic turmoil imposing early polls on Erdogan
Grappling with economic strains that might grow worse down the road, Turkey’s president faces an early election conundrum.

Turkey’s economic woes, compounded by the coronavirus pandemic, are increasingly forcing President Recep Tayyip Erdogan to consider early elections, leaving him stuck between pressure to reassert his leadership and fear of losing.

The next presidential and parliamentary elections are three years away, but talk of early polls is already abuzz amid the bruising impact of the pandemic. Many observers reckon that waiting for 2023 could augment the risks for Erdogan, who is facing an opposition enlarged by splinter movements from his Justice and Development Party (AKP).

Turkey plunged into economic turmoil in mid-2018, shortly after Erdogan was reelected under a new governance system that concentrated power in the president’s hands. The Turkish economy, which grew only about 1% last year, was still fragile when the coronavirus hit in March and was probably bruised worse than many other economies....

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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Exit40 on Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:49 pm

TURKISH LEADER CALLS TO PAINT OVER SERAPHIM IN DOME OF AGIA SOPHIA, CONVERSION TO MOSQUE REPORTEDLY ALREADY UNDERWAY
Istanbul, June 16, 2020

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As Turkish officials await the court hearing on the possibility of converting the world-famous Agia Sophia Museum back into a mosque, preparations for the change are reportedly already underway.

In this vein, the leader of the Saadet Partisi Islamist political party, Abdullah Sevim, called for Turkey to immediately take action and paint over the faces of the seraphim in the dome of the 6th-century Orthodox cathedral-turned-mosque-turned-museum, reports the Orthodoxia News Agency.

“There’s no need to wait for the decision of the State Council. We’ve already purchased the lime,” Sevim wrote on his Twitter page, calling everyone to join in a Muslim prayer to be held at Agia Sophia by President Erdogan.

The State Council will review the possibility of changing the status of Agia Sophia from a mosque to a museum, thus canceling the presidential decree of 1934 that turned it into a museum in the first place, on July 2.

Other preparations towards converting it back into a mosque are reportedly underway already....

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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Exit40 on Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:53 am

JUNE 17, 2020 / 11:22 AM / UPDATED 18 HOURS AGO
France accuses Turkey of hostile acts to stop enforcement of Libya arms embargo

PARIS (Reuters) - France accused Turkey’s navy on Wednesday of acting in a hostile and unacceptable manner towards its NATO allies to prevent them from enforcing a United Nations arms embargo on Libya.

NATO defence ministers are holding a virtual meeting this week amid growing tensions between Paris and Ankara. The two allies have traded barbs over the crisis in Libya, accusing each other of supporting opposing sides in the country’s war.

French foreign ministry spokeswoman Agnes von der Muhll said violations of the embargo, notably by Turkey, were the main obstacles to achieving peace and stability in Libya....

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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Exit40 on Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:24 am

Turkey: Erdoğan Wishes "Many More Happy Conquests"
by Burak Bekdil June 20, 2020 at 5:00 am

In Turkish jargon, the difference is simple: It is "conquest" when we do it and "invasion" when others do it.

In this year's celebrations, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan raised the stakes when he spoke of the conquest prospectively not just retrospectively. "I am wishing that God grant this nation many more happy conquests," he said....

A serious question remains to be asked: When Erdoğan wished God to grant Turks "many more happy conquests" which non-Turkish lands is he hoping to "conquer"?

In Turkey, every May 29 brings up the country's "conquest fetish." Turks are proud that their Ottoman ancestors, in 1453, "conquered" (not "invaded") then-Constantinople, today's Istanbul. It is bizarre enough that a proud nation is commemorating, every year, the capture from another nation of its biggest city by the "force of sword." This year's 567th anniversary was no exception: The celebrations euphemistically referred to the fall of Constantinople as "conquest" -- not "invasion."...

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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Exit40 on Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:58 am

Turkey Bombs Iraq, Syria, Targeting Kurdish Group It Says Trains Antifa
BY TOM O'CONNOR ON 6/19/20 AT 4:58 PM EDT

Turkey bombed Iraq and Syria, striking a Kurdish militia it has accused of training members of the left-wing, international antifa movement involved in protests across the United States.

The Turkish Defense Ministry released footage Friday of an F-16 fighter jet taking off and conducting what it said was an operation in Iraq's northern Great Zab region that "neutralized" four members of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK). The outlawed group has been locked in a three-decade, cross-border insurgency with Ankara, which has stepped up its campaign against Kurdish forces in Iraq in recent days.

In Syria, Turkish forces and allied rebel forces bombed Kurdish groups in the Tel Abyad countryside of the northern Raqqa province, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a United Kingdom-based monitor with ties to Syria's exiled opposition, reported Wednesday. The mostly Kurdish Syrian Democratic Forces often bear PKK insignia and Turkey argues the militia is simply a proxy of the underground group.

The United States' support for the Syrian Democratic Forces has complicated Turkey's campaign in northern Syria. In addition to Kurdish PKK sympathizers, other ethnic minorities and Arabs, the Syrian Democratic Forces and its fight against the Islamic State militant group (ISIS) has attracted foreign fighters from across the globe, including a number of leftists and anarchists, largely from the West....

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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Exit40 on Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:24 am

Libya: GNA calls Egypt's military threat 'declaration of war'
Egyptian president warned of 'direct' intervention in Libya, citing the need to protect Egypt's porous border.
7 hours ago

Libya's UN-recognised Government of National Accord (GNA) has denounced Egypt's warning of military intervention in Libya, labelling it a "declaration of war".

On Saturday, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi warned that if pro-GNA forces advanced on the strategic city of Sirte - some 450 kilometres (280 miles) east of the capital Tripoli - it could provoke a "direct" intervention by Cairo.

He also ordered the Egyptian army to be ready to carry out missions inside or outside of the country to protect its national security amid tensions over Turkey's intervention in Libya....

Snip... Since the start of June, increased Turkish support has enabled pro-GNA forces to take control of northwest Libya, ending Haftar's assault on Tripoli....

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Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God

T'was Grace that taught my heart to fear.
And Grace, my fears relieved.
How precious did that Grace appear
The hour I first believed.
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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Exit40 on Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:48 am

Erdogan and the Hagia Sophia: Will He – Or Won’t He?
Facing ever shakier voter support, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan may finally be ready to convert the Hagia Sophia into a mosque.
By Tuğba Tanyeri Erdemir, June 26, 2020

Ever since the rise of his Islamist-rooted Justice and Development Party (AKP) to power in 2002, Recep Tayyip Erdogan has refrained from publicly endorsing calls for converting Hagia Sophia from its current status as a museum into a mosque.

While he is certainly sympathetic to this particular cause cherished by Turkey’s Islamists and ultranationalists alike, Erdogan — first as prime minister and then as president — generally acted with circumspection.

His more recent calls within the last two years to turn the Hagia Sophia into a mosque were either ploys to gain political ground or divert public attention away from his political failures. Erdogan’s latest push, however, may be different....

Snips... Hagia Sophia was built as an imperial cathedral by the Byzantine Emperor Justinian in the 6th century....

... This year, Hagia Sophia was at the very heart of the annual celebrations of Istanbul’s conquest on May 29. Erdogan took a prominent role in the ceremonies: He virtually appeared on a giant screen in Hagia Sophia next to an imam reciting Quranic verses and delivered a spirited speech broadcasted live....

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**** The Hagia Sophia is like the first Vatican temple, a temple of God, built for worship of the one true God. It's conversion to a mosque, and then to a museum is almost irrelevant to the upcoming conversion back to a mosque. It is still a temple to God, a physical building whose purpose remains a Christian cathedral. A temple of God. I believe it is a possibility that the following verse may refer to the Hagia Sophia as the temple of God the 'man of sin' desecrates. Erdogan already acts as if he is sent by his god to rule over all the muslim world, appointed to form the resurgent caliphate, with which he will try to force it's rule on the rest of the world. Watch for what Erdogan does here, it may be Prophetic. D. ****

2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

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Re: Turkey : Part Four

Postby Exit40 on Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:58 am

Ayasofya: the mosque-turned-museum at the heart of an ideological battle
Turkey’s decision to secularise the building was symbolic – so is Erdoğan’s support for reversing it
Bethan McKernan in Istanbul Tue 30 Jun 2020 00.00 EDTLast modified on Tue 30 Jun 2020 08.32 EDT

For 900 years, Muslim caliphs and sultans took it upon themselves to fulfil the Prophet Mohammed’s prophecy that a great conqueror would one day bring the holy city of Constantinople into Islam’s embrace.

In 1453, when Ottoman Sultan Mehmed II finally succeeded in breaking through the Byzantine city’s walls, he immediately made his way to the largest cathedral in Christendom. As sunlight glittered off gold mosaics of the Virgin Mary and incense smoke drifted up into the building’s vast dome, he fell on his knees and prayed.

The young conqueror’s decision to convert the Hagia Sophia (Holy Wisdom) in Greek, now known as Ayasofya in Turkish – into an imperial mosque was a powerful symbolic act, as was a move nearly one hundred years ago by the Turkish Republic’s secular founder, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, to turn the place of worship into a museum. Today, the Ayasofya is still at the heart of a potent ideological battle.

Converting Istanbul’s crowning architectural treasure back into a mosque has been a cause close to the hearts of Turkish nationalists and Islamists for decades. It has been opposed with equal fervour by Greece and Turkish liberals who argue the move would disrespect the history of the country’s Christian minority and erode the Republic’s secular character....

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