Who Does The Government Intend To Shoot?

[OneDay]

By Major General Jerry Curry, USA (Ret.)

The Social Security Administration (SSA) confirms that it is purchasing 174 thousand rounds of hollow point bullets to be delivered to 41 locations in major cities across the U.S. No one has yet said what the purpose of these purchases is, though we are led to believe that they will be used only in an emergency to counteract and control civil unrest. Those against whom the hollow point bullets are to be used — those causing the civil unrest — must be American citizens; since the SSA has never been used overseas to help foreign countries maintain control of their citizens.

What would be the target of these 174, 000 rounds of hollow point bullets? It can’t simply be to control demonstrators or rioters. Hollow point bullets are so lethal that the Geneva Convention does not allow their use on the battle field in time of war. Hollow point bullets don’t just stop or hurt people, they penetrate the body, spread out, fragment and cause maximum damage to the body’s organs. Death often follows.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/who-d ... z24BpgFhbC

[GodsStudent]

I bought a box of hollow point bullets when I first purchased a gun. I was told that with the hollow point, it goes in on one side as a simple hole, but comes out on the other side as a huge hole. The point the salesman was making to me is that I can hit anyone anywhere on their body with one of these bullets and stop them from moving any further.

It is alarming that our government doesn't necessarily use these bullets in combat, but it is being suggested that they will use them in cases of civil disobedience??? Alarming. Welcome to old school Russia. Don't you remember the television shows that had Russians in the past? They were afraid to speak in their own houses. They were terrified they'de be overheard......in this day and age, we could be in our house and someone down the road could point a thing at the house and see or hear everything going on inside....with liberties having been stripped away, we have no choice but to live all those old school movies we used to see about communism. It seems to be almost fully here, now.

[Exit40]

Why buy all this ammunition unless you plan to use it.

I would speculate that most if not all of these deadly rounds will be off the market for average citizens, possibly by contract. Most ammo producers are already running three shifts trying to keep up with demand. How long does it take to produce multiple millions of this particular round, a pistol round ? Quite a while I propose. This is another dodge of the Second Amendment, IMO. The SSA, the NOAA ? What the heck, all they need is some security guards, and it is likely unlawful for them to use this type pf ammo. Same for HS. Something is not right here, but I doubt this ammo is for use against US citizens. I believe it is to keep it out of the hands of citizens. Who needs this stuff anyway ? To blow up a watermelon ? CAn't use it for hunting, it destroys a good deal of the meat. Cmon, this is ridiculous. The stuff should be banned, from use and production. Caveat, I am a fierce defender of the Second Amendment, NRA member, and I support sport shooting and belong to old west re-enactment clubs. I have been shot, in combat, thankfully not with this stuff.

God Bless

David

[imirish01]

Law enforcement uses the hollow point for it's stopping power. When a gun is fired at someone by law enforcement, it is used to stop the attacker. There is a "dead man walking," when after someone is shot, yet can still continue the attack. These rounds are not meant for law abiding citizens, however are used against the murderous intending criminals.

That said, I assume those reading this are not murderous criminals and thus have nothing to worry about. And yes, Social Security has a law enforcement division that needs to be armed. No big deal.

[El Gallo]

it is likely unlawful for them to use this type pf ammo.

It is unlawful to even buy it, per the "Purpose Act." This has nothing to do with their agency mission. It is more evidence of lawlessness.

[GodsStudent]

The SS Admin. operates exclusively inside the US Borders, so this is not meant for international purposes. I tend to appreciate David's remarks that this move is intended to remove the would be bullets from the shelves for general public consumption. In anticipation of a war, could the government be intending to arm it's employee workforce to protect and serve our country in a time of war?

[Resurrection Torchlight]

Social security explanation of why they did this
http://www.gsnmagazine.com/node/27021?c ... egislative

snopes
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/ssabullets.asp

Here's the question no one seems to be asking...... how often have social security agents had to use deadly force in their line of duty?? My guess it is a very rare exception. When is the last time you heard a news report of a social security agent having to use deadly force against someone trying to cheat the system? I can understand carrying a firearm as a deterrent and as a means of protection, but these type of bullets seem a bit of an "overkill" (pun intended).

It all smells a little fishy to me.

RT

[GodsStudent]

TruNews is reporting that the total number of bullets ordered is 1 billion.

I think the variance in the numbers comes from the fact that bullets have been ordered over a period of time and from a variety of sources, and the cumulative number totals more than 1 billion bullets in total ordered. One of the host's guests said that this was enough bullets to kill all of the American citizens more than three times over.

After hearing this today, I would say that I no longer think this is about keeping the bullets off the open market....there is something very unsettling to this whole thing and I don't have the answer.

[OneDay]

Yes. I heard the show too GS. The host of the show thinks the admonition is being placed for foreign troops for an invasion event. Scary stuff!

[learningeachday]

Yes. I heard the show too GS. The host of the show thinks the admonition is being placed for foreign troops for an invasion event. Scary stuff!

Whoa... So OneDay, are you saying our government is potentially PROVIDING ammo for foreign invaders? As in AIDING and ABETTING the enemy?

Also, wasn't it the stimulus bill that allowed for creation of a "civilian military"? Could this ammo be awaiting its new, soon-to-be-sworn-in army?

[1whowaits]

Hollow point pistol ammo would be used for defensive purposes, not offensive. If the government or some foreign invader were to attack the population they would use assault rifle ammo, .223 or .308, much more powerful and useful for attacking an adversary.

Pistol ammo is less powerful than rifle ammo, the hollow points increase the wound cavitation but they still don't cause as much damage as full metal or soft point rifle ammo, especially at a distance.

The various agencies buying up significant amounts of pistol ammo could suggest that either the gov'ment expects a shortage, or an increased need for the use of ammo. I would suspect that a memo has gone out that civil unrest is expected in the future, due to any number of causes, and that agencies should prepare to defend themselves and government property. Spreading the purchases out over many agencies would likely be designed to not draw the attention of the public, so that the questions that are being raised would not be raised.

Apparently someone knows that trouble is coming.

[Exit40]

Hi 1wW. You are correct to an extent. I must disagree about the wounds caused by the hollow point, but also, not every hollow point is designed to the specs of the six pointed split, which is a horrible mutilating round. Yes, pistol rounds are defensive, what invader would use such a close quarter round, it's range of effective use being so limited. I am beginning to think that much of this purchase is intended for the US to give it away to allied nations for their training purposes and use. I have to think too, there are less expensive rounds available for training purposes, unless they have negotiated for a cheaper price on such a bulk purchase. At any rate, I am certain we have not been, and maybe never will hear the true reasons.

Good to hear from you Bro.

God Bless You

David

[Reverend R.G. Myers]

The point being, the bullets will kill whomever it hits. I believe the government is expecting civil unrest and is preparing for it. We all know that our economy is not sustainable and with the government spending us deeper and deeper into debt, and along with possible food and fuel shortages and the price of fuel and food on the rise, we will eventually see civil unrest and possible riots. I believe the government sees this coming and will not pony up and admit it to the average citizen. We are truely in the end times and things will only get worse. God bless all of you.

[El Gallo]

Read Ulsterman blog for a darker view (if possible) of why there would be unrest.

[Mrs. B]

Who Does The Goverment Intend to Shoot?

Jesus said..
Matt. 24:15.....When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation,
spoken of By Daniel the Prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
16, Then let them which be in Judea Flee into the Mountains:

Should we get out of the cities?

21....For then shall be Great Tribulation, such as was not since the Beginning of the World to this Time, No, Nor ever shall be.....

Jesus said, get out of Jerusalem....
I say get out of the cities.....

29....Immediately after the Tribulation of those days shall the son be darkened, and the moor shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30..And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in Heaven:
and then shall all the tribes of the earath mourn, and they shall See the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory...
31...And he shall send his angels with a great Sound of a Trumpet, and they shall gather together His Elect from the four winds, from one end of Heaven to the Other.
32...Now learn a parable of the Tree;
When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, Ye know that summer nigh:
33...So like wise ye, when ye shall see all these things, Know that is is near, Even at the Doors....

34.....VERILY, I SAY UNTO YOU....This Generation Shall NOT Pass pass, till all these things be fulfilled...

I believe we are this Generation.....

You pray and ask Jesus what He would have you to do......each person must seek the Lord for there on personal life...
and what he would have you to do......this is not to bring fear.....but to cause us to wake up and see the day and hour we are living in......Don't let fear in.....just seek and obey...

Mrs. B

[OneDay]

http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/08/1 ... -see-here/

from site:

Yeh. Exactly. Who do they plan to shoot? And why are they planning to have to shoot so many?

Are they planning on some kind of civil meltdown like resulting after an EMP attack?

Should we connect the dots of the Russian Nuclear Submarine cruising “undetected” for several weeks in the Gulf of Mexico, with a dry run drill of an EMP attack on America, and the arming of many DHS subagencies all over the country?

An absolute read (if you’re OK to loose sleep for weeks after that): One second after by william Forstchen.

[imirish01]

Who do you think "government" is? Is it not your friends, neighbors, church members, as well as other citizens? Be careful how you view things. A good question to ask is, is this a normal purchase for that agency? Does this large purchase mean that ammo might be scarce in the future? Who knows, but making blanket statements about government out to get you could very well make you a liar when standing before the Lord and we finally know the truth. Let's use our words with wisdom and not make blanket assumptions, even with bible passages inserted.

I don't mean to come off argumentative, but we can sound crazy based on assumptions that are not yet proven, or may never be proven by facts. Let's not get led around by our nose by fear and lets cling to the truth of His word, use wisdom and watch.

[Jericho]

The recent purchase of ammunition by several federal agencies has triggered a stir in the blogosphere that monitors government activity. First, the Department of Homeland Security ordered 450 million rounds of ammunition, then the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) submitted an order for 46,000 rounds, and the Social Security Administration placed an order for 174,000 rounds.

The Department of Homeland Security has made other big purchases of ammo. According to Major General Jerry Curry, USA (Ret.), earlier this year, the DHS ordered 750 million rounds of hollow-point ammunition. It then turned around and ordered an additional 750 million rounds of miscellaneous bullets, including some that are capable of penetrating walls.

Hollow points are designed to expand as they strike human flesh, causing maximum damage. Since these types of bullets are banned by the Hague Convention of 1899, Declaration III, the only logical target they can be used against is the citizenry of the United States.

There doesn't seem to be any plausible reason for this huge order of ammunition. It can’t be just for training; there aren’t that many weapons in the U.S. to fire it. In the war in Iraq, our military forces used about 70 million rounds per year. Right now, the DHS has enough ammunition to empty five rounds into the body of every living American citizen.

I'm amazed that no one in Congress is asking why the weather people would need to be so well armed. I had no idea it was so dangerous at the Social Security Administration. Since the folks at the U.S. Post Office face the greater threat from barking dogs, I'm surprised they haven't asked for an allotment of tactical nuclear warheads.

http://www.raptureready.com/rap16.html