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Bin Laden

Postby PrewrathPatty on Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:18 am

Here we go again with Bin Laden. Will God let him succeed?<br>
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Re: Bin Laden

Postby DP on Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:26 am

We have not heard from him in quite some time. makes you wonder about Jan. 23 doesn't it?<br>
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Then there is this:<br>
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<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>CAIRO, Egypt - Al-Jazeera aired an audiotape purportedly from Osama bin Laden, saying al-Qaida is making preparations for attacks in the United States but offering a truce to rebuild Iraq and Afghanistan<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>
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Re: Bin Laden

Postby Lazarus43 on Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:37 am

Sounds to me like the Bin Laden plan is to move the battle out of Islamic controlled areas and into the United States.<br>
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Blessings,<br>
Lazarus43 <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Bin Laden

Postby blessedayers on Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:38 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>makes you wonder about Jan. 23 doesn't it?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>
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Isa.34:16a,Matt.13:52, 2Tim 4:2<br>
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Re: Bin Laden

Postby yuppiesim on Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:43 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>We have not heard from him in quite some time. makes you wonder about Jan. 23 doesn't it?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>
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What is suppose to happen on Jan 23? It's my husband's birthday; not a good day for something bad to happen. <p>Shannon<!--EZCODE BR START--><br /><!--EZCODE BR END-->aka Yuppie Sim<!--EZCODE BR START--><br /><!--EZCODE BR END--><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.yuppiesims.com" target="top">www.YuppieSims.com</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></p><i></i>
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Re: Bin Laden

Postby DeepNoah on Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:00 am

It is interesting that he is offering a truce. It comes across very suspicious, as if he is holding all the cards. I am usually very sceptical of Bin Laden's statements. I don't feel they can be taken straight forward obviously, but this statement seems different then others in the past. It has a quiet confidence in it that makes me take notice. The one thing I find interesting is that he offers a truce, but he does not go into detail on what each side would do exactly, what is required of the U.S. other than pulling out troops obviously, and the biggest thing...no deadline. The fact that there is no firm deadline to respond makes me doubt that the 23rd is the day for an attack, but then again this statement could be designed to actually bring about a little false comfort to draw us in just before a strike. I could probably argue with myself for hours lol...oh well. We all need to increase our level of prayer even more and focus our prayers specifically on this situation.(I know many of us are already doing just this, but more cannot hurt) Good to know that God will be with us through whatever does or doesn't happen!<br>
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Re: Bin Laden

Postby DeepNoah on Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:03 am

Yuppie,<br>
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Here is a link to the thread about Jan 23rd.<br>
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Re: Bin Laden

Postby reedax on Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:17 am

before he released videotapes like they were going out of style. Now only audio tapes? Kind of makes you wonder if he's actually alive. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Bin Laden

Postby DeepNoah on Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:22 am

Not sure if his vitality is much of an issue at this point in the game??? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Bin Laden

Postby PrewrathPatty on Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:24 am

He made be sending some kind of code, with this message, to sleeper cells in the country. <br>
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One of these days, something big will happen to the US, or maybe the country will die by a thousand little cuts. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Bin Laden

Postby Mttw633 on Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:37 am

There is no truce, he only says that so after it happens Americans will be so angry at our President for "getting us in on this" we won't be a united front against this end time enemy. But we have prayer and the Lord on our side. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Bin Laden

Postby tsth on Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:03 am

I don't know if it's relevant or not, but this passage of Scripture came immediately to mind:<br>
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Isaiah 8:11 For the LORD spoke thus to me with his strong hand upon me, and warned me not to walk in the way of this people, saying: 12 <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"Do not call conspiracy all that this people call conspiracy, and do not fear what they fear, nor be in dread.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> 13 But the LORD of hosts, him you shall regard as holy; let him be your fear, and let him be your dread. 14 And he will become a sanctuary, and a stone of offense, and a rock of stumbling to both houses of Israel, a trap and a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem. 15 And many shall stumble thereon; they shall fall and be broken; they shall be snared and taken." <br>
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16 Bind up the testimony, seal the teaching among my disciples. 17 I will wait for the LORD, who is hiding his face from the house of Jacob, and I will hope in him. <br>
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In His Love,<br>
Suzanne <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Bin Laden

Postby tsth on Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:12 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>He made be sending some kind of code, with this message, to sleeper cells in the country. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>
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Dear patty,<br>
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I DO recall in one of the articles about all the track phones, that they also said that the release of tapes, has in the past revealed a pattern, in terms of an impending attack. I'm not quite sure, but seems like they said they came in patterns of 2 releases before an attack. That they releases were most likely some form of signal. (I wish I could remember which article talked about this? Anybody else remember that portion or article?)<br>
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In His Love,<br>
Suzanne <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Bin Laden

Postby tsth on Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:16 am

Here it is from mttw633,<br>
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I put this up yesterday.<br>
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www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpeci...0111a.html<br>
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Al Qaeda Video is 'Green Light' for Attack, Analyst Warns<br>
By Sherrie Gossett<br>
CNSNews.com Staff Writer<br>
January 11, 2006<br>
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(CNSNews.com) - The recently released video message from al Qaeda's number two leader is part of a pattern that signals a countdown to a major terrorist attack within the next 30 days, warns a Washington D.C.-based analyst.<br>
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The new video was aired by the Qatar-based al-Jazeera satellite network on Jan. 6. In it Ayman al-Zawahiri portrays U.S. government discussion of troop withdrawal from Iraq as a victory for Islam. <br>
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"If your forces with all its aircraft, missiles, tanks and fleets are moaning, bleeding and looking for an escape from Iraq, then will the hypocrites, conspirators, infidels (the Iraqi government) resist what the 'greatest power in the world' has failed to resist?" al-Zawahiri asked. <br>
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But it is not the content of the video that is a sign of a possible imminent strike, said terrorism expert Christopher L. Brown. Instead, it is the timing of the video that is consistent with previous patterns. Brown, a researcher with a Washington think tank, has briefed members of Congress and senior administration officials on key threats, and he has prepared testimony and briefing materials for officials at the Department of Defense, State Department, CIA, National Security Council and the White House.<br>
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The pattern Brown observed is that each Zawahiri video appears to be part of a pair, with the second video followed by a significant attack within 30 days, outside of the major combat zones of Iraq and Afghanistan. <br>
The videos released on Sept. 9 and Nov. 9, 2004, were the first "set" and were followed by the Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, bombings on Dec. 6, 2004. The second "set" of videos was released Feb. 20 and June 26, 2005, followed by the July 7 London bombings. A third set of videos was released Aug. 4 and Sept 1, 2005, followed by the bombings in Bali, Indonesia, on Oct. 1, 2005. <br>
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A Cybercast News Service exclusive report on Sept. 8 of last year detailed Brown's warning regarding an impending October attack.<br>
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The fourth set of videos, according to Brown's theory was released on Oct. 23, 2005 and last week -- Jan. 6.<br>
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"This pattern has held for at least three of al Qaeda's last large-scale attacks," said Brown, "This most recent video is likely a signal that a large-scale operation is about to be launched within the next 30 days. The question is where." <br>
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A clue may be found in the Internet postings of the enigmatic Abu-Hafs al-Masri Brigades, said Brown. The brigades appear to be 'green-lighting' coming attacks prior to the release of the second video of each pair, Brown said. <br>
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The video that preceded the London bombings was itself preceded by a post by the "European division" of the brigades under the title, "Letter to mujahedeen in Europe." The posting stated in part, "We now call on the mujahedeen around the world to launch the expected attack." The message appeared on an al Qaeda-linked Internet forum.<br>
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Brown believes the larger pattern of two videos sandwiching an Internet posting by the Abu-Hafs al-Masri Brigades was repeated when a November web message declared that the upcoming attack would occur in the "land of the Romans," widely seen as a reference to Italy.<br>
The Internet posting, under the name of al Qaeda's reputed military commander Saif al-Adel, mentioned future attacks involving unidentified poisonous substances and surface-to-air missiles procured from Chechnya. Brown notes that the Abu-Hafs Al-Masri Brigades are overseen by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the top al Qaeda terrorist in Iraq who is also known to have ties to Chechnya.<br>
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"It is even more interesting to note that Western intelligence officials believe that al Qaeda has had some of the most advanced Russian man-portable surface-to-air missile systems (the SA-18) within Europe for at least one year."<br>
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On Oct. 29, 2005, the London Telegraph reported that Abu Atiya, an al Qaeda operative close to al-Zawahiri, revealed to French authorities that a group called the "Chechen network" entered France with the missiles and chemical and biological agents such as botulin, ricin and cyanide. The missiles were reportedly purchased in 2002 and eventually smuggled through Georgia and Turkey to be used in a planned attack against French airliners in 2004. <br>
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Following the London bombings the brigades posted a communique on the Internet, stating: "We are in Italy, and not one of you is safe as long as you refuse [Osama bin Laden's] offer. Get rid of the incompetent (Prime Minister Silvio) Berlusconi or we will truly burn Italy." <br>
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A July 19, 2005, story in Italy's Corriere della Sera newspaper indicated that Italian intelligence feared the statement was a coded message activating known cells in Italy, which had previously been providing only logistical support.<br>
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Three more messages from the Abu-Hafs al-Masri Brigades were posted in July, promising to "burn Italy down.<br>
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"We will raze the cities of Europe to the ground and you will be the first, Berlusconi!" one of the messages declared. On July 31, the brigades claimed to be "calling up all our cells in Rome and other Italian cities for this war ..." Another Internet message followed in August.<br>
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However, the November reference to the "land of the Romans" could be misdirection Brown said, since al Qaeda is known to use coded language in many of its communications. The Global Islamic Media Front (GIMF) has indicated that al Qaeda intentionally labeled Italy as its target, prior to the London bombings. <br>
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If the "land of the Romans" doesn't refer to Rome, what might it refer to? Dan Darling of the Manhattan Institute believes it could be a reference to the United States. "It could just as easily apply to the U.S. -- America as the new Rome," said Darling.<br>
Brown also believes the al Qaeda threat could apply to the U.S. and that America is the likelier target. The "land of the Romans" could be a symbolic reference to the "countless examples of Romanesque architecture in Washington, D.C.," said Brown. <br>
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The missiles reportedly obtained from Chechnya have not been located and Brown believes it is possible that some of the weapons have been smuggled into North America since individuals involved in the "Chechen network" who procured the missiles were allegedly involved in the 1999 conspiracy to bomb Los Angeles International Airport. <br>
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About Brown's theory of a timing pattern and imminent strike, Dan Darling said "I definitely think there's something behind this theory. One of my earliest observations about al Qaeda is that when people look for patterns they tend to forget to include events in places like Kashmir, Chechnya, Iraq. " <br>
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Darling also noted that analysts often fail to take into account thwarted attacks. "Italy has arrested several members of GSPC cells intent on attacking Italy or U.S.-related installations," said Darling. The GSPC is also known as the Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat, an Algerian group linked to al Qaeda. Italian officials announced on Dec. 23 that the suspected terrorists had plans to carry out attacks against the U.S. that would have surpassed 9/11.<br>
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Terrorism expert B. Raman told Cybercast News Service that Brown's theory is "fascinating" but that he was not in a position to agree or disagree with it. <br>
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"I personally feel that while the London explosions were externally inspired from Pakistan, the timing and the modus operandi used were decided locally. I would have difficulty in connecting it to Zawahiri's second message," said Raman. He also believes that Zawahiri's importance as an operational head tends to be over-estimated by many Western analysts.<br>
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"I also feel on the basis of my reading of the situation that there is a very high probability of a terrorist strike against Italian lives and interests this year," said Raman. <br>
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"In Europe, Al Qaeda's next targets in the order of probability are Italy (its Prime Minister is closely identified with Bush), France (ban on head scarves, its interior minister is hated in the Islamic world) and Germany (its role in Afghanistan)."<br>
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Raman is the former head of the counter-terrorism division of the Research & Analysis Wing in India's external intelligence agency and director or the Institute of Topical Studies, Chennai, India.<br>
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Italy has been bracing for possible attacks targeting the February Winter Olympics in Turin or the April 9 general elections. Italian Interior Minister Giuseppe Pisanu told media last month, "The global resonance of the Games, and the coincidence with the election campaign could be of great interest to terrorist organizations, which carry out major attacks in order to rock public opinion and influence political stances."<br>
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The CIA has declined to comment on Brown's theory. "We don't comment on our own analysis. And we can't comment on Mr. Brown's theory either," said the spokesman. <br>
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Regarding the video release pattern, "once can be an interesting anomaly, twice could be a coincidence, but three times is a pattern," Brown said, indicating "that in all likelihood al Qaeda will launch a major attack sometime in the next month."<br>
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Re: Bin Laden

Postby mrshalfcent on Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:36 am

Fox News TV is reporting the Bin Laden tape is authentic. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :thinking --><img src=http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_12_12.gif ALT=":thinking"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p>************************<br>
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Re: Bin Laden

Postby jesusphreak86 on Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:56 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>He made be sending some kind of code, with this message, to sleeper cells in the country.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>
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I think you are likely very right.<br>
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This is a very interesting thing to happen, though. Bin Laden has been silent for so long and then 4 days before a prophesied attack on America, he threatens one? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Bin Laden

Postby faithandgrace on Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:07 am

I e-mailed my brother in law that is in New York now but he lives in Atlanta ~ HE agrees that something very may well be up with this one and he will be extra careful ~<br>
I think we are all knowing something is coming soon!<br>
I just don't want to be one to offer false prophecy ~ but on the other hand I do feel we are watchmen as well and all the pieces are so coming together and I might add FAST!<br>
Where he agreed I do feel urgency to pray for EVERYONE ~ judgement is coming folks!<br>
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In Service!<br>
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