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Reflections on this year's National Prayer Breakfast

Postby Abiding in His Word on Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:08 pm

A GATHERING IN THE NAME OF JESUS IN THE NATION'S CAPITOL<br>
Reflections on this year's National Prayer Breakfast<br>
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By Tim Timmons<br>
Special to ASSIST News Service<br>
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WASHINGTON, DC (ANS) -- Every year in early February a rare gathering of people from all over the world occurs called the National Prayer Breakfast. It has always been a rare happening, but this year was most extraordinary! <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Never before has there been such a coming together of the three major religious faiths of Moslem, Judaism and Christianity.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> What's important to note is that this breakfast is not a gathering of Christians, but a gathering of all cultural faiths and backgrounds in the name of Jesus. This was most clear at this year's event.<br>
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Dignitaries, corporate executives, and people from all walks of life, representing 160 countries, participate in this event. Everyone comes at the invitation of a friend to enjoy a time of fellowship with old friends and to make new ones around the table at the breakfast with the President of the United States…all in the name of Jesus. The National Prayer Breakfast has been convening since President Eisenhower's administration. It is hosted by either Members of the House or Senate, alternating each year. This year the breakfast was coordinated by the United States Senate prayer group, co-chaired by Senator Norman Coleman (Minnesota) and Senator Mark Pryor (Arkansas).<br>
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At the breakfast itself there was a variety of participation from 7 Senators, 2 Congressmen, the Chief of Naval Operations, King Abdullah II of Jordan, the President of the United States and music from Karen Mason and Point of Grace. There was a clear spectrum of diversity from Democrat to Republican, Jewish, Muslim and Christian, all bowing their heads and hearts to the God of gods.<br>
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BONO OF U2<br>
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The most electrifying time at the breakfast was the keynote speaker, Bono, lead singer of the famous U2 Irish rock band. Bono may be one of the most recognized figures in the world today, not only for his music, but for his leadership toward solving the leprosy of our day -- AIDS.<br>
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Bono, in so many ways, is a most unlikely speaker at the National Prayer Breakfast. Although he has made himself known as a believer and follower of Jesus through his music and interviews, he is quite critical of the "traders" of religion (especially Christianity), as in the traders in the Temple that Jesus kicked out.<br>
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On the other hand, Bono is a most excellent and appropriate choice to keynote this event. He is a radical believer and follower of Jesus plus nothing.<br>
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Growing up in an Irish home, split between his parents' faith -- one a Catholic and the other a Protestant -- Bono resented religion from day one. He avoids religious people, because he believes religion often gets in the way of God.<br>
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Bono's theme is right at the heart of God. He believes God is with the vulnerable, the poor, the hungry and those who are struck with the disease of AIDS. Bono shared his thinking about the heart of God by using a variety of Biblical passages. He did it in such a way that made you feel like he had actually found this passage for himself in the Bible, rather than transmitting something he had heard from another. He warned that taking care of the poor and afflicted is not an issue of charity, but of justice—of doing what is right.<br>
Bono challenged the governments of the world to enter into a partnership with Africa—a partnership in which each country would commit 1% of its annual budget. It was a most powerful and persuasive appeal by the rock star.<br>
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Bono shared advice from a spiritual mentor that penetrated the hearts of his audience. It was "Stop asking God to bless what you're doing. Get involved in what God is doing. It's already blessed!"<br>
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BEYOND BONO<br>
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In addition to the powerful speech by Bono, there was another rarity that was very evident. As I mentioned earlier, this international event, contrary to public opinion, is not a gathering of Christians. If you approach the breakfast with this thinking, you will miss the entire point of the gathering.<br>
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The National Prayer Breakfast is for everyone from everywhere with every kind of religious and cultural background imaginable. And, all gather to this event from all over the world in the name of Jesus. There is no confusion about this among the Moslem, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu participants who attend.<br>
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If there is any confusion, it might come from the Christian. In my experience Christians seem to believe that Christianity owns Jesus. Jesus, however, is for everyone everywhere! He didn't come to planet earth to start a religion, but to initiate a personal relationship with the God of gods.<br>
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This year at the National Prayer Breakfast there were Jews, Buddhists, Moslems, Hindi, Catholics and even some Christians who lifted Jesus up in their testimonials. This was most refreshing!<br>
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A Moslem businessman working in Saudi Arabia shared his encounter with Jesus. Before 9/11 he thought of himself as a Moslem "missionary", feeling he was on a mission to convert everyone he met to the peaceful faith of Islam. Then 9/11 hit. He was so discouraged, because this act of terrorism was anything but peaceful or in the spirit of Islam. Through a friend this Muslim's heart was apprehended by Jesus. Now he has real peace to share with his world—the love and peace of Jesus.<br>
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This Moslem businessman was not converted to Christianity, but drawn to Jesus. You see, all of the religions of the world are basically a way of life emerging from their cultural backgrounds. To convert a Moslem and make him a Christian would mean to deny his culture and to accept a foreign culture. So, this Moslem businessman is still a Moslem businessman, however he is a new believer and follower of Jesus. To hear him share this story was most powerful!<br>
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When you examine Paul's life in the New Testament, this man's experience is a lot like Paul's. Paul was a faithful Jew who was a follower of the Christ. He was persecuting the followers of Jesus, because they seemed to be a threat to His faith as he understood it. Then, Jesus apprehended Paul on the road to Damascus. Paul was not converted from being Jewish, but from that day on was devoted to Jesus as the Messiah.<br>
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This is only one of many non-Christian testimonials shared in regional dinners and sessions. All who shared their stories had one thing in common—the person and teachings of Jesus. Since 1984 I have been attending the National Prayer Breakfast and have always found the friends and family at this event to be most refreshing and challenging to my personal relationship with Jesus. The overwhelming theme is most life-changing. It is JESUS PLUS NOTHING. What makes JESUS PLUS NOTHING work are three habits that are practiced world-wide in the fellowship of Jesus…<br>
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1) Walking with Jesus<br>
2) Walking with others<br>
3) Waiting on Jesus to lead out<br>
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<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The National Prayer Breakfast is a wonderful event where believers in Jesus come to fellowship together and those who are interested hear about the King of kings and Lord of lords—Jesus.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> The Acts of Jesus are still happening in the four corners of the world. Let's not ask the Lord to bless what we're doing, but join in on what God is doing because it's already blessed!<br>
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Re: Reflections on this year's National Prayer Breakfast

Postby Bravo383 on Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:30 am

You cannot be a muslim, a hindu, a jew, wicca or anyother religion you might think of and serve Jesus Christ. You must be a Christian.<br>
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Bono, promotes a one world religion even if he does wrap it up all nicely it still stinks. As far as us committing 1% of our income to Africa that stinks too, let's do it for our own homeless and hungry. That way we are still looking after the poor but they will be our own countrymen for a change. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Reflections on this year's National Prayer Breakfast

Postby Watching4Jesus on Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:00 am

Man, that is real nice. This is why the Christians are going to be hated. We are going to be the only people against the one world religion, and this religion looks so nice and peacefull and kind. Oh boy are we in for a rough haul. May we persevere to the end and keep our eyes on the Father in Heaven, and on his Son Jesus Christ, who died and rose again and now sits a the right hand of God the Father. "For many will come in my name" WOW...<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :whaa? --><img src=http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_19_2.gif ALT=":whaa?"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Reflections on this year's National Prayer Breakfast

Postby Bravo383 on Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:02 am

Man, that is real nice. This is why the Christians are going to be hated. We are going to be the only people against the one world religion, and this religion looks so nice and peacefull and kind<br>
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Yes, we will be hated just as Jesus was hated before us. But, better to be hated for standing for the truth then loved for accepting a lie. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Reflections on this year's National Prayer Breakfast

Postby Watching4Jesus on Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:09 am

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Re: Reflections on this year's National Prayer Breakfast

Postby mersade on Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:18 am

I'm sorry but, I don't see where this is leading to the one-world religion spoken of in my Bible. That religion is centered on tolerance and the AC, not Jesus. Now, we didn't get enough information from this article. Do these people at this breakfast just honor Jesus or do they know what Jesus did for us? Good question. If they know and believe what Jesus did for us, this is a wonderful thing.<br>
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By the way, you can call yourself a Christian and not be a child of God. So, I believe you can be of any religion and still be saved. If a Hindu admits and believes in his heart that Jesus is the Christ, he is covered by the blood. He is no longer classified a Hindu, by our standards. He is a child of God whether he says he's Hindu, Christian or whatever.<br>
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YSIC,<br>
Carrie <p></p><i></i>
mersade
 

Re: Reflections on this year's National Prayer Breakfast

Postby Bravo383 on Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:31 am

If a Hindu admits and believes in his heart that Jesus is the Christ, he is covered by the blood. He is no longer classified a Hindu, by our standards. He is a child of God whether he says he's Hindu, Christian or whatever.<br>
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Nope you have to do more then believe, You must repent and ask for salvation and by the way once you are born again you would no longer be Hindu, Jew, muslim, or wiccan or anything else you will be a Christian. You cannot belong to a false religion and follow Jesus.<br>
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I never said that Bono was leading to "THE" one world religion, only that he promotes it and no matter how nice it looks on the outside it still carries damnation on the inside. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Reflections on this year's National Prayer Breakfast

Postby Watching4Jesus on Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:48 am

Our God is a jealous God, and he will not share the stage with other religions. Jesus is the only way to God, and unless those at the prayer breakfast completely forsake other religions, I do not believe that they can be saved. <p>Just my 3 Cents</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p203.ezboard.com/bherbsdiscussionboard.showUserPublicProfile?gid=watching4jesus>Watching4Jesus</A> at: 2/8/06 11:49 am<br></i>
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Re: Reflections on this year's National Prayer Breakfast

Postby mersade on Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:00 am

Act 11:26 And finding him, he brought him to Antioch. And it happened to them a whole year they were assembled in the church. And they taught a considerable crowd. And the disciples were first called Christian in Antioch.<br>
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Must we be so technical? I didn't realize I had to spell out everything I meant. I don't like typing. Anyone here that knows me should know what I was saying.<br>
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I'm sorry. I didn't know anything about Bono's beliefs until I read that article. If he is saved, I don't think I will be damning him.<br>
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YSIC,<br>
Carrie <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Reflections on this year's National Prayer Breakfast

Postby OffTheWall2002 on Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:01 am

Understand that Satan wants to be worshipped and that he will not share his worship with any other religion. This is why the beast turns against the harlot in Revelation.<br>
For a while, the harlot spoken of will have a huge spiritual umbrella under which I'm sure, most to all religions will be tolerable, as long as tolerance is given to other religions under that same umbrella.<br>
What you see in the news about Muslim/Christian conferences and national prayer day conferences is most likely, the buildup to a big push for religions to unite, and eventually a merging of religions, I'm sure.<br>
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However, one CANNOT and I repeat CANNOT be a hindu and yet be saved. We are called to turn away from sin, away from idolatry, away from harlotry. Whatever you are, when you are saved you are a follower of Christ, a Christian. You turn AWAY from what you were and carry your cross to the end. For someone to still acknowledge themself as a Hindu, Buddhist, Moslem, after repenting and accepting Jesus proves that their conversion was false.<br>
You are a new creation in Christ! Old things have been put away! If Old things have not been put away, you are not a new creation in Christ. <br>
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<p>"I wouldn't say I'm the best Football Manager in the business, but i'm in the top one". Brian Clough, Nottingham Forest Football Club Manager 1974-1994</p><i></i>
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Re: Reflections on this year's National Prayer Breakfast

Postby Bravo383 on Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:09 am

Must we be so technical? I didn't realize I had to spell out everything I meant. I don't like typing. Anyone here that knows me should know what I was saying.<br>
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But, I do not know you nor am I able to read minds, I was just going on what you posted. Why so much hostility?<br>
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And I have absolutely no more idea then you as to whether Bono has been saved or not but, I was not damning him at all I said that the One world religion carries damnation. There's a big difference there. <p></p><i></i>
Bravo383
 

Re: Reflections on this year's National Prayer Breakfast

Postby OffTheWall2002 on Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:12 am

Bono is most assuredly not a Christian and I can say with the utmost assurance that is within me. By their fruits ye shall know them!<br>
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The thing is with merging tolerance for relgions like this is, that it's all for the purpose of globalisation. <br>
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Bono and U2 are foul-mouthed Catholics at best. Their behaviour during gigs are despicable, and their lyrics prove without a doubt that Jesus is not the LORD and Savior, in their hearts.<br>
A recent gig of U2 displayed on the screen, "Jesus, Allah, Mohammed, Buddha, all the same"<br>
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When George Bush announced a $5bn hike in US aid last week, many were surprised by the figure at his side - the same Irish rock star who once routinely denounced the president's father. Bono tells Madeleine Bunting and Oliver Burkeman how he wooed Washington <br>
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Bono with George Bush<br>
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Senator Jesse Helms is 80 years old. He walks with a four-pronged cane. A fearsomely rightwing evangelical Christian, he has repeatedly exploited racial prejudice in his election campaigns. He believes that homosexuals are "weak, morally sick wretches", and a couple of years ago, he endorsed a report entitled "There Is A Virus Loose Within Our Culture", which blamed violence in America on Satan's involvement in the music industry. For these and many other reasons, he stood out somewhat when he attended his first rock concert last June, a sell-out date in Washington DC on U2's Elevation Tour. <br>
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"People were moving back and forth like corn in the breeze," the wide-eyed senator reported, seeking metaphorical inspiration in the landscape of his native North Carolina. "When Bono shook his hips, the crowd shook their hips... [It] was the noisiest thing I ever heard," he added, noting that he hadn't been able to make out most of the words. But he was taken with Bono. "The senator is very much a fan of Bono," says Lester Munson, one of his senior staffers, failing to disguise his incredulity. "Or that's my sense from hearing him talk all the time about this person who now seems to be his favourite rock star." <br>
The Bono/Helms axis may seem entirely improbable to the average owner of Achtung Baby and The Joshua Tree. And when Bono appeared alongside President Bush last week at the announcement of a historic $5bn aid package for the world's poorest countries - declining to remove his blue shades and matching the president's chummy wave with a peace sign - it might have looked like another standard-issue photo opportunity. <br>
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In fact, it was the culmination of an assiduous effort to court Washington's Republican elite - and the first public sign of an extraordinary hub of influence that has emerged at the centre of American government. It embraces the religious right, the counterculture-phobic Bush conservatives, the anti-Aids crusaders, and the normally beleaguered international-aid lobby. And most extraordinary of all, it was constructed by a 40-year-old singer from Dublin with no surname who is more accustomed to hanging out with musicians called The Edge. <br>
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Back home in Dublin this weekend, Bono - affectionately known as "The Pest" by his new friends in the White House - was quietly satisfied with his latest mission. "It's a downpayment. It's not where we need to be. The administration has now committed itself to an Aids initiative at some point in the next year. Once my foot is in the door, I'm hard to get out." <br>
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There is nothing new about rock activism, of course. Bob Geldof, a close friend of the U2 singer, epitomised the old approach: raise money, raise public anger, pile the pressure on the politicians. But Bono - working in collaboration with Geldof - has pioneered a new kind of celebrity activism: he is a lobbyist, not a fundraiser. "Usually, famous faces are used to getting media attention," says Lucy Matthew, one of two key behind-the-scenes players in Bono's campaigning (the other is Jamie Drummond, of the Drop the Debt campaign). "But now Bono and Bob spend time on meetings, phone calls, how to get people on side, much more than on photo opportunities. <br>
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It's a strategy that comes with risks. Is it possible to appear in public with the likes of Helms and Bush and preserve that precious commodity - street-cred? If it's not, says Bono, it's a price worth paying. "Edge was pleading with me not to hang out with the conservatives. He said, 'You're not going to have a picture with George Bush?' I said I'd have lunch with Satan if there was so much at stake. I have friends who won't speak to me because of Helms. But its very important not to play politics with this. Millions of lives are being lost for the stupidest of reasons: money. And not even very much money. So let's not play, Who are the good guys and who are the bad guys? Let's rely on the moral force of our arguments." <br>
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And Bono has not stinted from making those arguments at every opportunity. In the past year alone, there have been frequent meetings in Washington and an eight-day trip in January to Uganda, Malawi and Ghana with the influential Harvard economist, Jeffrey Sachs. Then an exhausting dash along the East Coast - a rehearsal for the Super Bowl halftime slot in New Orleans, followed by intensive schmoozing with Republicans at their get-together in West Virginia, where he met with White House adviser Josh Bolton before joining Bill Gates and treasury secretary Paul O'Neill on a panel on the effectiveness of aid at the World Economic Forum in New York. For two days, Bono shuttled between discussions on development and recording studios. Then it was back to New Orleans for the Super Bowl. <br>
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Bono has done his fair share of the old-style rock politics, helping Geldof with Live Aid and supporting Greenpeace and Amnesty International. But it was the Jubilee 2000 campaign - the simple, Biblical idea of cancelling third world debt for the millennium - that captured his imagination and set him on course to becoming a backroom powerbroker. "He rang me and said he'd like to do another Live Aid concert," Bob Geldof remembers. "I said, 'It's not going to work.' These are very dry, empirical, economic arguments, and it needs something different. The main thing he's got is access because of his fame - and the only route I was prepared to go was one that would move the political agenda... It's embarrassing and pathetic that people who have celebrity have access, but if that's the case, let's @#%$ use it, you know?" <br>
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Ann Pettifor, who headed the Jubilee 2000 campaign, knew a publicity coup when she saw one. "I flew to Dublin to talk him through it," she says. "I explained Sabbath economics - the idea that every seven days you stop consumption and exploitation, and every 49 years you write off debts and free slaves. It was the opposite of globalisation, and Bono got very excited." <br>
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According to Geldof, a weekend that the two musicians spent at Chequers with Tony Blair and Gordon Brown established that "we were pushing at an open door". They had a good-cop, bad-cop routine, Bono joked to a friend. "Geldof rages at the injustices served by the west on Africa while Bono comes in to ask politely what we're all going to do about it," the friend recalls. <br>
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But they all knew that Washington needed to be on board if the campaign was to succeed. So Bono turned to an old friend, Bob Shriver, a member of the Kennedy clan and a record producer with excellent connections with Democrats on Capitol Hill, and some pretty good Republican links through his brother-in-law, Arnold Schwarzenegger. <br>
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Meanwhile, the US wing of Jubilee 2000 hit on the idea of persuading the Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo, a Baptist, to write a letter to Baptist churches across southern US states explaining the Biblical principles behind debt cancellation. Suddenly, Bono found he had access to a swathe of strongly Christian Republicans compelled by his Biblical theme - what Bono calls "the melody line" of his pitch. "We knew we had to get both sides," he explains. "So we got Billy Graham and the Pope and I went to people like Jesse Helms, who had been very tough on the the concept of foreign assistance and very bleak on Aids. He's a religious man so I told him that 2103 verses of scripture pertain to the poor and Jesus speaks of judgment only once - and it's not about being gay or sexual morality, but about poverty. I quoted that verse of Matthew chapter 25: 'I was naked and you clothed me.' He was really moved. He was in tears. Later he publicly acknowledged that he was ashamed..." <br>
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All the time spent on Capitol Hill began to pay off when members of the Bush administration finally agreed to meet with Bono, often in Geldof's company. First came Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice, whom Geldof describes as "one of the smartest people I've ever met". Secretary O'Neill was still sceptical, but relented after his chief of staff met Bono last May. Three weeks later, Bono was back in Washington to meet O'Neill again - and now he has persuaded O'Neill to accompany him to Africa in May to prove to him that aid and debt relief can really work. <br>
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Then White House advisors Josh Bolton and Karl Rove agreed to meet, from whence followed last week's appearance with the president. All parties were presumably too tactful to recall U2's ZooTV tour, in the early 1990s, when Bono would call the White House nightly from an onstage telephone to lambast a hapless receptionist about US policy in Central America. <br>
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Bush's announcement on foreign aid astonished development experts: they had already written the obituaries for Monterrey, the UN summit on development finance in Mexico which opens today, blaming US unilateralism for killing it off. But Bono, unlike many of the other development lobbyists in Washington, kept on going after the Republicans took over the White House. He was convinced, he told sceptical aid experts, that the Republicans were taking him seriously - and Bush's extraordinary testimony to Bono's influence was vindication. As the president put it in his speech: "@#%$ Cheney walked into the Oval office, he said, 'Jesse Helms wants us to listen to Bono's idea.'" <br>
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Everyone involved in Bono's energetic coalition-building over recent months agrees on one thing: the singer knows his stuff. "Every time you go into these meetings you're surrounded by civil servants who know their stuff, even if the protagonist doesn't. So you have to be au fait with the issues," says Geldof. "For a summer, we had a high-level tutorial until we completely knew this boring @#%$ backwards. Bono's an exceptionally clever man, and he's also a paddy, so he's very verbal. He was... jesuitical." <br>
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The combination of rock singer with someone who knows the issues is a strange one; Bono knows this, and he has been deft in exploiting it. Calculatedly, he never drops the superstar routine - the louche T-shirts, the informality, the shades worn while meeting the Pope - while stunning besuited powerbrokers with his knowledge of debt sustainability ratios and aid flows. If he understands the importance of mastering his subject, Bono also has a keen sense of how to exploit his celebrity. "It doesn't matter who you are - he is the pop star of record," says Geldof. "He's charming, he's persuasive. And the politicians can go home to their daughters and say: 'I had a meeting with Bono today.'" <br>
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The mild irony of the multi-millionaire performer appointing himself spokesman for the world's poor isn't lost on Bono either. "I'm uncomfortable being a rich rock star, doing this. I'm unhappy with that juxtaposition. I would love not to be doing this - for somebody else to do it who was not as compromised as me. That guilt has driven me to be a policy wonk. It makes me queasy to turn up just for the photo opportunity so I turn up for the briefing as well. I go to bed with World Bank reports. These issues are bigger than whether it makes me comfortable or not. So the band might cringe, I might wince, but I went to Washington to get a cheque and I'm going back to get a bigger one." <br>
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<p>"I wouldn't say I'm the best Football Manager in the business, but i'm in the top one". Brian Clough, Nottingham Forest Football Club Manager 1974-1994</p><i></i>
OffTheWall2002
 

Re: Reflections on this year's National Prayer Breakfast

Postby Watching4Jesus on Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:13 am

Exodus 34:14 - (for you shall worship no other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God),<br>
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Deuteronomy 4:24 - For the LORD your God is a devouring fire, a jealous God.<br>
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Deuteronomy 5:9 - you shall not bow down to them or serve them; for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,<br>
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Deuteronomy 6:15 - for the LORD your God in the midst of you is a jealous God; lest the anger of the LORD your God be kindled against you, and he destroy you from off the face of the earth.<br>
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Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.<br>
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<p>Just my 3 Cents</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p203.ezboard.com/bherbsdiscussionboard.showUserPublicProfile?gid=watching4jesus>Watching4Jesus</A> at: 2/8/06 12:24 pm<br></i>
Watching4Jesus
 

Re: Reflections on this year's National Prayer Breakfast

Postby mersade on Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:52 am

OffTheWall,<br>
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That's what I was looking for. Proof. Thank you. The article that started this thread didn't come across as bad.<br>
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Bravo,<br>
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I'm sorry if I came off as hostile. That's why I hate typing. There is no real emotion in it. I guess since I couldn't get my point across, I probably shouldn't have typed anything. Anyway, I understand and agree with you guys. <br>
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Jam 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.<br>
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The word "religion" would make a great debate topic.<br>
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YSIC,<br>
Carrie <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Reflections on this year's National Prayer Breakfast

Postby Bravo383 on Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:58 am

It's hard to tell on a board without hearing someone's voice just how they are really feeling. Sorry, I too have had others think I was upset when I was not. No hard feelings. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Reflections on this year's National Prayer Breakfast

Postby Bluntasaspoon on Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:58 pm

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Watching, you said that. <br>
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I have a question for everyone on the board...<br>
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If G_d, ours, is a jealous G_d, then does that mean, we as Christians have the right to be jealous? Or is it a matter of do as I say not as I do?<br>
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Just curious to everyone's interpretation. Thanks. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Reflections on this year's National Prayer Breakfast

Postby Watching4Jesus on Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:07 pm

Correction, I did not say that...the Bible did...<br>
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Anyways, if a engineer builds a device that is to serve him and him alone, and states that in the "code" of the device, does this make the engineer wrong. Jealous is the creators way of desiring all worship for himself, it is also his way of safeguarding us from the dangers of false religions. We are not gods, and there is only 1 GOD, and yes all worship must go to Him. No worship or praise is to go to man, and therefor, jealousy of others worhsip on our part is wrong, because we are not GOD!!<br>
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Re: Reflections on this year's National Prayer Breakfast

Postby carpentersdaughter on Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:12 pm

God desires our love and fellowship. His jealously is pure, and not carnal as one would think.<br>
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What would it matter anyway if God says do as I say and not as I do?<br>
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Who are any of us that we should question God?<br>
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Is the pot greater then the master who created it?<br>
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What it all boils down it is that God desires our love and devotion, and to give anything more attention then what we give to God, is idioltry.<br>
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