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Postby FamilyMan on Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:57 am

Mexico is here

"Mexico does not end at its borders. ... Where there is a Mexican, there is Mexico."

That astonishing claim by Mexican President Felipe Calderon, in his state of the nation address at the National Palace Sunday, brought his audience wildly cheering to its feet.

Were the United States a serious nation, Calderon's claim that Mexico extends into the United States would have produced an instant demand from the U.S. ambassador for clarification. Failing to receive it, he would have packed his bags, and the United States would be on the verge of severing diplomatic relations.

In an earlier time, U.S. troops would be rolling to the border.

For this is not the first time an arrogant Mexican ruler has made a claim to extra-territorial rights inside the United States and, indeed, to U.S. territory. Mexico's presidents have gotten into a habit of suborning treason against the United States.

In 1995, President Ernesto Zedillo told a Dallas audience of U.S. citizens of Mexican descent, "You are Mexicans, Mexicans who live north of the border" – i.e., you owe loyalty to Mexico, not Uncle Sam.

In 1997, Zedillo brought a Chicago gathering of La Raza to its feet by exclaiming, "I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders."

In 1998, Mexico changed its constitution to restore citizenship to Mexican-Americans who have taken an oath of allegiance to the United States and renounced loyalty to any other country.

Purpose: loosen their ties of loyalty to the United States, re-knit their ties of loyalty to Mexico, and persuade Mexican-Americans to vote Mexico's interests in the USA. Put Mexico first, even if you have taken an oath of allegiance to the United States.

In June 2004, President Vicente Fox took the Zedillo road to the Mexican-American community in Chicago. There, he, too, declared: "We are Mexicans that live in our territories, and we are Mexicans that live in other territories. In reality, there are 120 million that live together and are working together to construct a nation."

President Fox was saying that the construction of his nation is taking place – inside our nation. Is that not sedition?

In 2005, the head of the Institute of Mexicans Abroad, Carlos Gutierrez, asserted, "The Mexican nation goes beyond the borders that contain Mexico."

What these Mexicans politicians are saying is that Mexico extends into the United States, and the first loyalty of all men and women of Mexican ancestry is, no matter where they live, to Mexico.

Mexico's rulers believe in a nation of history, blood and soil that pre-existed, and supersedes, any pledge of allegiance any Mexican may make to another country, especially to the United States.

Is George W. Bush vaguely aware of any of this?

At the Quebec summit, Bush mocked the idea of a merger of a North American Union as a fantasy of conspiracy theorists. "It's quite comical actually, to realize the difference between reality and what some people on TV are talking about."

Calderon laughed it off, too. "I'd be happy with one foot in Mexicali and one in Tijuana." But in his state of the nation, Felipe is talking about one foot in Mexico and one in Los Angeles.

Is Bush oblivious to what his friend Vicente Fox laid down in Madrid in 2002 as the long-term strategy of Mexico?

"Eventually, our long-range objective is to establish with the United States ... an ensemble of connections and institutions similar to those created by the European Union, with the goal of attending to future themes as important as ... the freedom of movement of capital, goods, services and persons. The new framework we wish to construct is inspired in the example of the European Union."

Fox is talking about the erasure of borders.

Whether Bush is aware of this really makes no difference. For the real issue is not what the Mexican regime has in mind, but whether we can stop it, or whether we have passed a point of no return.

Today, already, there are 45 million Hispanics in the United States, perhaps half from Mexico, and 37 million immigrants.

Now, Steve Camarota of the Center for Immigration Studies projects – using official Census Bureau figures of 1.25 million legal and illegal immigrants entering and staying in the United States every year – a U.S. population of 468 million by 2060.

We will add as many people – 167 million – in the next half-century as the entire population of the United States when JFK was elected.

Some 105 million of these folks will be immigrants and their children. That 105 million is equal to the entire population of Mexico, whence most of these folks will be coming.

No wonder Mexican presidents are coming out of the closet about what is up. They know the gringos can't stop it, for they have the American establishment on their side.

Buenas noches, America.

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Postby BeTheMoon on Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:59 am

:lol:

I thought the bug in your siggy was a bug on my monitor! :grin:
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Postby BeTheMoon on Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:00 am

Hey, where'd it go? Maybe it was a bug on my monitor. :cheeky:
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Postby BeTheMoon on Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:01 am

Darn-it! There it is again!

I'll leave this thread now
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Postby FamilyMan on Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:02 am

It certainly gets your attention don't it?
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Postby BeTheMoon on Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:04 am

I'm like this watching it :eek:
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Postby DeLila on Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:04 am

We are so betrayed......

I am hearing this more and more and seeing it for myself....

I know we don't talk about conspiracy here, but I feel betrayed
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Postby Abiding in His Word on Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:10 am

As long as that bug stays in FamilyMan's post, I'm O.K. with it! :wink:

I'm moving this to the Whatever forum.
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Postby John Gilbert on Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:33 am

Hi Abiding.

Why "Whatever"?

The original post is a news story along with a link. I would think this is most appropriate for the main board. We are witnessing the eradication of our country daily.
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Postby I've Seen Angels on Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:35 am

John Gilbert wrote:Hi Abiding.

Why "Whatever"?

The original post is a news story along with a link. I would think this is most appropriate for the main board. We are witnessing the eradication of our country daily.


I agree...this is main news today.

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Postby Mttw633 on Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:25 am

Is Bush oblivious to what his friend Vicente Fox laid down in Madrid in 2002 as the long-term strategy of Mexico?

"Eventually, our long-range objective is to establish with the United States ... an ensemble of connections and institutions similar to those created by the European Union, with the goal of attending to future themes as important as ... the freedom of movement of capital, goods, services and persons. The new framework we wish to construct is inspired in the example of the European Union."

Fox is talking about the erasure of borders.


Wow.
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Postby John Gilbert on Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:35 am

WOW is right.

Let's see. Bush comes out right after the SPP conference and denies an EU model to reporters. Today, the Mexican president confirms to his reporters that an EU model is being created. They were equal participants in the same meeting. Which president then is lying to his constituents? That's easy. All the evidence points to President Bush as having the forked tongue regarding this issue. Both presidents are destroying their respective country's sovereignty. Only one of them is being secretive about it.
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Postby Abiding in His Word on Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:13 pm

Hi all,

Sorry for the delay in replying. I just got home from work.

The News forum is for prophecy-related news. The border dispute between Mexico, the U.S., and/or President Bush does not meet that criteria IMHO.
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Postby John Gilbert on Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:34 pm

Hi Abiding,

You don't see how the destruction of American sovereignty could potentially play into constructing a western union that would work in tandem with the European Union? Two legs of the Roman Empire? The Roman Empire and its offspring?

Seems completely related to Bible prophecy to me if this results in a global or super-regional governance of the masses.
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Postby Abiding in His Word on Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:04 pm

John Gilbert wrote:You don't see how the destruction of American sovereignty could potentially play into constructing a western union that would work in tandem with the European Union? Two legs of the Roman Empire? The Roman Empire and its offspring?

Seems completely related to Bible prophecy to me if this results in a global or super-regional governance of the masses.


Hi John,

The OP is posted as an information article with no reference to scripture. None of the posts that follow (until now) mention any possible scriptural connection to any scripture.

Nevertheless, I will be happy to move it back to the News forum for you.

Carry on..... :wink:
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Postby John Gilbert on Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:14 pm

You're the best, thanks!
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Postby Abiding in His Word on Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:16 pm

My pleasure...
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Postby mizbayakh on Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:06 pm

Yup...Mexican Police patrolling the streets in Austin, TX. (???!)
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Postby mrgravyard49 on Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:13 pm

So it seems for a while now we are No longer America, But The North American Union. So Now I ask Is Bush the President of this Union?
and will there be an election next year? and if so will that person be the President of the North American Union Or will the Head of Canada or Mexio be our leader??
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Postby soonverysoon on Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:47 pm

This really worries me. The only reason I can see as to why they can talk like they are is because the American Union is not for off. And Bush is just making the Mexicans welcome here.

They will be able to change our laws before long. We will be under their leaders and they will show favor to their own people, I think.

The Lord once spoke to me in 1990 and said I would wake up one day and the America you have always know will be changed. That it would not be like anything you have ever known. On 9/11 I knew that change had started. And I can see a new America is not far off.





By the way I don't see a bug? What bug are ya'll talking about???????????


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Postby stevesherri on Sat Sep 08, 2007 7:28 am

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Postby DeLila on Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:10 pm

mizbayakh wrote:Yup...Mexican Police patrolling the streets in Austin, TX. (???!)
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Where did these pictures come from? Why were they there? Do you have any more information? Thanks
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Postby Sue-M on Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:01 pm

Maybe Bush doesn't care because he knows that soon there will be no governments anywhere, except the One World Government.

If there is no One World Government soon, then, there will be a war right here in this country, between Americans and Mexicans.
Luke 21:28

When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.
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Postby sirlancelot7 on Sat Sep 08, 2007 5:29 pm

noticed what soonverysoon had posted

The Lord once spoke to me in 1990 and said I would wake up one day and the America you have always know will be changed. That it would not be like anything you have ever known. On 9/11 I knew that change had started. And I can see a new America is not far off.


Very interesting, someone said in this thread that this was'nt worthy to make the news page because its not prophetic, this is very prophetic.
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Postby His on Sat Sep 08, 2007 7:48 pm

Stevesherri,

I went to the link you posted on the Amero coins, and at first I thought it was the real deal. I googled it to try to dig up more info to see if the coins had actually been minted.

I found this article: Parody designer imagines North American Union currency

Parody coin designer Daniel Carr has launched production of an "amero" coin which he is marketing to coin dealers and collectors.

Blogger Daniel Taylor called attention to Carr's "amero" parody, commenting, "Pictures of the supposedly designed and coined 'amero' have been making the rounds on the Internet lately, causing a stir among those aware of real proposals for a common currency between the United States, Canada, and Mexico."

Carr notes on his website that, "These 'private-issue fantasy pattern' ameros will be struck as an annual series (until such time as it is no longer legal to do so), starting in the later part of 2007."



So, it looks like these Amero coins floating around right now are just parody coins. I do think the real Ameros will be here, eventually, but these aren't them. Just wanted to let people know.


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Postby sirlancelot7 on Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:53 pm

Thanks for the correction, I never got a chance to proof read that Amero article.
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Postby mizbayakh on Sun Sep 09, 2007 12:15 am

DeLila,
Those pictures are from a night of witnessing on 6th Street in Austin, TX.
We used to go every single weekend...and we (as a seed sowing group) have been watching things taking place (some like to call it conspiracy...but, it's all unfolding before our eyes).
So...we were aware of the NAU ,etc...and all these Mexican police were patrolling. One of the men in our group borrowed my camera and took photos, asked questions...and my friend in in the top photo giving them tracts in Spanish witnessing to them. :mrgreen:
They said they were invited guests...working with our police force :shock:
I can't remember how long ago this was...it has been awhile.
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Postby joshua1:9 on Sun Sep 09, 2007 12:25 pm

I have two versus that I think dirrectly relate to these events

here they are
Rev 13:9
If any man have an ear, let him hear.

10He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.


This is a message to those who are working for this one world governence plan. Including he Masons & every other group that does the bidding of the this plan.. It also calls for patience by the saints .

Rev:13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

I believe that the image is a copy of the Beast . A copy of the Form of government the Beast will have.

This is what the NAU is an image of the EU. This is what all the economic blocks are. An image of the Beast. The EU Beast. If we look around the world this prophecy is begining to c be fulfilled. From The African Union to the North American Union. the world id honoring the Beast by creating an image to the beast.. The image is being given life by the best. In the form of a mixture of democratic economic capitalistic socialism..

"Eventually, our long-range objective is to establish with the United States ... an ensemble of connections and institutions similar to those created by the European Union, with the goal of attending to future themes as important as ... the freedom of movement of capital, goods, services and persons. The new framework we wish to construct is inspired in the example of the European Union."

Vincente Fox Presidente Mexico 2002
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